cutting while injured(not able to train)

the_leprechaun · 06-22-2009, 05:30 AM

so ive just come off a ud 2.0 cycle(which went great,lost 4 kg and 3% bodyfat while holding onto my muscle) im down to 80kg and 10.5% bodyfat, i had to get a small operation on my chest, which basically rules me out of upper body work for 4-6 weeks, im hoping to start training my lower body and maybe arms within 2-3 weeks to keep me ticking over...im allowed begin jogging/cardio etc in 2 weeks. i want to keep cutting as im going away at the end of sept, so i want to get my bodyfat as low as possible for that.

would my best option just to keep a 500 cal deficit with high protein,mod carbs and fat after coming off the ud 2.0 and my activity level dropping way down?? the lack of activity is going to kill me as im used to a high activity level. does anybody have any experience cutting while injured, am i going to loose fairly large amounts of muscle due to the lack of weight training??

Balin · 06-22-2009, 09:53 AM

I wouldn't run a deficit. Your body needs calories to promote healing/repair. Recovery is hampered in a deficit.

I would also think that with no muscle stimulation and running a deficit would probably lead to more atrophy then eating at a maintenance level.

the_leprechaun · 06-22-2009, 09:59 AM

so im better off running at maintenence for the 6 weeks, trying to keep myself at the 10% bf ive gotten to. then maybe hit another 8 week ud 2.0 cycle. whats best for healing recovery? im assuming high protein,mod carbs and fat would be best for recovery?

Balin · 06-22-2009, 10:23 AM

I think Built just suffered an injury while doing UD2. She may have something to add here too.

Yanick · 06-22-2009, 10:45 AM

Don't run a deficit, risk of muscle loss and impairment of tissue repair is too big IMO. Better off maintaining for a bit and using whatever activity you are cleared for as exercise and when you are all ready to go, drop into a deficit and try to reach your goals.

To promote tissue repair you want high protein, fat and adequate carbs, plus a multi vitamin, extra C, fish oils, keep yourself well hydrated and don't aggravate the injury by going to hard too fast or you'll just drag the whole ordeal out even more.

the_leprechaun · 06-22-2009, 11:16 AM

ill take that onboard thanks, im not really sure what my maintenence is after coming off the ud 2.0, ill run at 2500 calories and see how i get on with that after 2 weeks, ill just go for a 40 40 20 macro split, im allowed walk and use a stationary bike from next week, so ill maybe try get some cardio in every day, like 30 mins on the bike and 30 mins walking on an incline to keep myself ticking over.

nkira · 06-22-2009, 11:18 AM

I am injured too.......and no workout SUCKS!!

Dumbbell went out of control while doing bench press, I took 4 days complete off, lifted today but the pain is back.

I am extending my off period.

I get shooting pains at Biscep Brachii & Deltoideus......sucks!!

I am planning to visit physio.

the_leprechaun · 06-22-2009, 11:33 AM

at least i have a specific timeframe, so thats helping me a bit! also coming off the ud 2.0 i was gna take it easy anyways! but jeez not having the option is an absoute killer!

Jag · 06-29-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by the_leprechaun

so im better off running at maintenence for the 6 weeks, trying to keep myself at the 10% bf ive gotten to. then maybe hit another 8 week ud 2.0 cycle. whats best for healing recovery? im assuming high protein,mod carbs and fat would be best for recovery?

If you're going to be relatively innactive what would you need carbs for?

I have started a cut with no weight training at all. For a week or so i just drop carbs to trace amounts and walk.

That's just me though. I'm not telling you to do this but if bike and treadmill were my only exercise that's what i would be doing.

Low carbs will also decrease your appetite. My bodyfat would rise dramatically eating carbs with an inactive lifestyle. But i'm 44 and i know my body pretty well now.

Injuries are hard to deal with. I hope they pass quickly for you.

danzik17 · 06-29-2009, 10:00 PM

Don't run the deficit.

I know you REALLY want to reach your goals, I'm the same way. Sometimes you do need to take a step back though and re-evaluate.

You just had surgery, your body needs to repair. IMO it's more important to provide your body plenty of fuel to do that right now even if it does mean gaining a couple pounds of fat. In the long run a couple pounds means nothing, but a muscle that doesn't heal properly will stay with you possibly forever.

06-22-2009, 05:30 AM	#1
the_leprechaun Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dublin,IRELAND Posts: 156 Photos: 1	cutting while injured(not able to train) so ive just come off a ud 2.0 cycle(which went great,lost 4 kg and 3% bodyfat while holding onto my muscle) im down to 80kg and 10.5% bodyfat, i had to get a small operation on my chest, which basically rules me out of upper body work for 4-6 weeks, im hoping to start training my lower body and maybe arms within 2-3 weeks to keep me ticking over...im allowed begin jogging/cardio etc in 2 weeks. i want to keep cutting as im going away at the end of sept, so i want to get my bodyfat as low as possible for that. would my best option just to keep a 500 cal deficit with high protein,mod carbs and fat after coming off the ud 2.0 and my activity level dropping way down?? the lack of activity is going to kill me as im used to a high activity level. does anybody have any experience cutting while injured, am i going to loose fairly large amounts of muscle due to the lack of weight training??

06-22-2009, 09:53 AM	#2
Balin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 165	I wouldn't run a deficit. Your body needs calories to promote healing/repair. Recovery is hampered in a deficit. I would also think that with no muscle stimulation and running a deficit would probably lead to more atrophy then eating at a maintenance level. Regards, Balin.

06-22-2009, 10:23 AM	#4
Balin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 165	I think Built just suffered an injury while doing UD2. She may have something to add here too. Regards, Balin.

06-22-2009, 10:45 AM	#5
Yanick Amor Fati Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 4,231	Don't run a deficit, risk of muscle loss and impairment of tissue repair is too big IMO. Better off maintaining for a bit and using whatever activity you are cleared for as exercise and when you are all ready to go, drop into a deficit and try to reach your goals. To promote tissue repair you want high protein, fat and adequate carbs, plus a multi vitamin, extra C, fish oils, keep yourself well hydrated and don't aggravate the injury by going to hard too fast or you'll just drag the whole ordeal out even more. "The greatest obstacle to knowledge is not ignorance but the illusion of knowledge." -Barry Marshall, Nobel Laureate

06-29-2009, 10:00 PM	#10
danzik17 Gender: MALE Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 3,042	Don't run the deficit. I know you REALLY want to reach your goals, I'm the same way. Sometimes you do need to take a step back though and re-evaluate. You just had surgery, your body needs to repair. IMO it's more important to provide your body plenty of fuel to do that right now even if it does mean gaining a couple pounds of fat. In the long run a couple pounds means nothing, but a muscle that doesn't heal properly will stay with you possibly forever. Ron Paul 2012 Journal: danzik17's Log - 4-6 Week Strength/Bulk Journal: Sub 10% by April <old>

06-22-2009, 09:59 AM	#3
the_leprechaun Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dublin,IRELAND Posts: 156 Photos: 1	so im better off running at maintenence for the 6 weeks, trying to keep myself at the 10% bf ive gotten to. then maybe hit another 8 week ud 2.0 cycle. whats best for healing recovery? im assuming high protein,mod carbs and fat would be best for recovery?

06-22-2009, 11:16 AM	#6
the_leprechaun Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dublin,IRELAND Posts: 156 Photos: 1	ill take that onboard thanks, im not really sure what my maintenence is after coming off the ud 2.0, ill run at 2500 calories and see how i get on with that after 2 weeks, ill just go for a 40 40 20 macro split, im allowed walk and use a stationary bike from next week, so ill maybe try get some cardio in every day, like 30 mins on the bike and 30 mins walking on an incline to keep myself ticking over.

06-22-2009, 11:33 AM	#8
the_leprechaun Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dublin,IRELAND Posts: 156 Photos: 1	at least i have a specific timeframe, so thats helping me a bit! also coming off the ud 2.0 i was gna take it easy anyways! but jeez not having the option is an absoute killer!

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