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14 Day PSMF log
I am trying a 14 day PSMF and thought I would log it in case anyone wanted to comment.
Current Stats: Height: 6' Weight: 209 Age: 29 BF% Roughly14-15% Waist: 35.75 I am aiming for 1200ish calories with 200g protein, and as low of fat/carbs as I can go. I am doing 30 minutes of low impact cardio (stationary bike) every day, with 4 light workouts per week. The lifting sessions are also around 30-45 mins and very low impact. Supplements: 10 caps Fish Oil Whey Shake Multivitamin EC stack My goal is to drop 5lbs of actual fat by the 24th and an inch off my waist. I have never low-carbed before, so this may be headed towards a donut implosion, but I will try. I will be updating each post as the day wears on, so the food log will be accurate, it will keep me more honest, and hopefully keep up my motivation. Welp, here we go.
You should bang this chick like a mountain gorilla ~ ROID
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10SEP09:
Kicked it off today. Motivation is high to do this, so we will see how it goes. I woke up feeling strong despite havaing been on a pretty tough cut for a while. Abs are visible, with strong vascularity, although the inner tube is still in place. Here were my macros and meals for the day. Keep in mind that I work nights, so my meals are backwards, ie: breakfast for dinner etc. Any tweaks would be great: Breakfast: Small salad with (all raw veggies)broccolli, tabasco peppers, bell pepper slices and 1/2cup diced ham with a whey shake: 280 cals, 8g carbs, 36g protein Break: 1 cup Cottage Cheese 220 cals, 5g carbs, 30g protein Lunch: 2 small/med boneless chicken breasts and whey shake 390cals, 3g carbs, 68g protein Break: 1 cup Cottage Cheese 220 cals, 5g carbs, 30g protein Afterworkout dinner: Eggbeater omelet with diced ham 115cals, 2g carbs, 25g protein Totals: 1225cals, 23g carbs, 190g protein Excercise included 30 minutes of stationary bike work with heart rate around 140BMP upon waking. After work resistance training was: Bench Press: 225lb 3x8 Incline Dumbell Bench: 25k 3x8 Flyes: 20k 3x8 Dips: 3x10 Planks: 3 x 30secs Workout was lighter than I intended, but by the end of the day I was ready to eat a small child and was very weak.
You should bang this chick like a mountain gorilla ~ ROID
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11SEP09:
Weight: 212.5 (hruh?!) I woke up feeling tired, bloated and sluggish. Abs are non-existant. My vascularity is gone and I am as smooth as a hotdog. I am going to assume that something I ate yesterday is causing me to retain enough water to float a tanker. I'm not much of a salt eater, so maybe the hot sauces I was using on my chicken and such. 30 minutes of stationary bike work at around 140BPM Breakfast: 6oz Steamed Tilapia with 1/4 cup raw Broccoli 260 cals, 50g protein, 3g carbs Still very hungry even after breakfast, but I have the funky taste in the back of my throat, so I am definately in ketosis.
You should bang this chick like a mountain gorilla ~ ROID
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Ah I guess you can only edit for so long. I will hold off till each morning to add to posts. I will complete 11SEP09 log tomorrow then with a full day's data.
You should bang this chick like a mountain gorilla ~ ROID
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Drop the cardio. The absurd deficits you run on a PSMF are enough to drop fat, there is no good reason to compromise muscle by adding in cardio.
Besides, you ain't gonna have the energy for it after a week of this. Also, I'd run 2 heavy and short workouts per week instead of 4 light ones. Make it all heavy compounds. Maybe one with squats, rows, and bench The other with deadlifts, military press, and pullups 3x3 or 3x5 for each movement would be plenty. Just focus on keeping the weight on the bar. |
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I was thinking the same thing with the cardio, but was under the understanding from Lyles site that he recommended 30 mins cardio daily with this.
I will revise the workout. To be honest it was a fairly worthless workout anyway. I had ZERO intensity and felt about as strong a a limp noodle. So 2 FBW's at low reps and just try to stay heavy?
You should bang this chick like a mountain gorilla ~ ROID
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Yep.
I'm not sure where you got the cardio thing from his site, but it's not a good idea to do it on a PSMF at least in my opinion. You should already be losing nearly 1/3lb of fat per day, that's enough. The risk to the muscle isn't worth it. |
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Also just noticed that you have a whey shake in there. Purely for satiety reasons, I'd suggest you drop it and replace it with something solid (lean chicken breast, top round steak, etc.)
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So apparently peas have carbs. I just probably jerked myself out of ketosis for some veggies that I dont like.
I hate my life. From now on, only eating things that I read up on first. Whats the upper limit on carbs per meal before you blow yourself out of ketosis? Because I just ate 5-10 carbs worth of peas.
You should bang this chick like a mountain gorilla ~ ROID
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It varies from person to person.
Do you not have the book?
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I told ya yesterday that I can't get an ebook out here on the rig ![]() I go home on the 17th though, and I will order it then. Thanks Danzik, just pissed me off thinking I threw my night out over something I don't even care for.
You should bang this chick like a mountain gorilla ~ ROID
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Well, I told you what to do and you ignored me.
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Do the workouts that I suggested, you'll find they'll work perfectly.
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I would never ignore you Built!
I dropped the HIIT, but didn't catch it that I needed to drop the cardio completely. I will do that. The workouts you suggested just seemed too easy, but after my less than stellar performance last night, I see why. I will be swapping immediately. Going to take tonight off in the gym, I feel just plain wrung out and beat up. I will start that exercise plan tomorrow night.
You should bang this chick like a mountain gorilla ~ ROID
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Treat the PSMF workouts like a time to deload. Many people actually make strength gains during PSMF diets. I've done it, so will you. Lyle has the workouts as full-body, low volume sessions done twice a week. I find that for the 12 days of PSMF, every third day like this works perfectly.
Walking is fine. You will in fact find it helpful for hunger-control. No other cardio, and like the cardio and weight recommendations, the increased protein wasn't a suggestion; it's mandatory.
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Roger, tailoring accordingly.
Question about the protein. I have limited access to foods out here. I think if I was to take my protein any higher than 200-250 I would be closer to 1500 cals. Which is the better option, slightly higher cals or slightly lower protein?
You should bang this chick like a mountain gorilla ~ ROID
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Keep the protein no lower than 1.5g/lb LBM. Nothing wrong with boosting your protein with whey; you may not find it holds you very long, but you can try using it as a "preload"; say a 20-g protein shake just before you have your meal, or even with it. There is research to support that this can be an effective strategy in inducing satiety through the stimulation of a hormone called CCK.
Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started.
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Excellent, thanks!
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Ok, sorry for reposting, didnt know I couldnt edit after some time. This is after completing my second day. Built, anyway you could delete my first post for this day? I will just post after completing each day now.
11SEP09: Weight: 212.5 (hruh?!) I woke up feeling tired, bloated and sluggish. Abs are non-existant. My vascularity is gone and I am as smooth as a hotdog. I am going to assume that something I ate yesterday is causing me to retain enough water to float a tanker. I'm not much of a salt eater, so maybe the hot sauces I was using on my chicken and such. 30 minutes of stationary bike work at around 140BPM Breakfast: 6oz Steamed Tilapia with 1/4 cup raw Broccoli 260 cals, 50g protein, 3g carbs Still very hungry even after breakfast, but I have the funky taste in the back of my throat, so I am definately in ketosis. Break: Cottage Cheese 3/4 cup, 2 slices of roast beef 220cals, 8g carbs, 30g protein Lunch:2 chicken breasts chopped mixed with 1/4cup peas and 1/4 cup carrots 293cals, 8g carbs, 51g protein Break: Cottage Cheese 3/4 cup, 2 slices of roast beef 220cals, 8g carbs, 30g protein Dinner: Eggbeater Omelet with diced ham, and whey shake (double whey shake to try to catch up on protein) 375cals, 8g carbs, 71g protein Totals: 1368cals, 35g carbs, 232g protein I will try to up the protein more tomorrow, just can't seem to get it higher without messing with the cals/carbs. I feel like I have been beaten with a large stick. I have a blinding headache, although the hunger has dulled somewhat. I will take the night off the gym, and will be stopping cardio, so hopefully this will improve.
You should bang this chick like a mountain gorilla ~ ROID
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Dude, seriously, no more cardio. Just walking, and not even power walking - just an ordinary walking pace. It really does settle down hunger.
Try the whey shake with a few fish oil caps before a meal.
Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started.
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I dropped it, that was the log for yesterday before I talked to you. My log is from 6pm-6am because that is when I am awake. Todays log will be posted tomorrow morning.
You should bang this chick like a mountain gorilla ~ ROID
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12SEP09:
Weight: 211.8 I woke up feeling better than I went to bed, but still had a headache, which I pretty much carried with me all day. No cardio today. Breakfast: 3 chicken thighs 327 cals, 39g protein, 0g carbs Break: Cottage Cheese 3/4 cup, 4 slices of roast beef 270cals, 9g carbs, 38g protein Lunch: Ribeye Steak and catfish filet 493 cals, 4g carbs, 40g protein Break: Cottage cheese 170cals, 4g carbs, 22g protein Dinner: Eggbeater Omelet with diced ham, and whey shake (double whey shake to try to catch up on protein) 375cals, 8g carbs, 71g protein Totals: 1635cals, 25g carbs, 210g protein I went a little crazy with the steak, but we only get steak every once in a while out here, and I wasn't going to pass it up. I stayed in deficit on calories, but not nearly as low as I should have been. Carbs were within goal, protein was low, but anymore and my cals would be through the roof. Will try harder to get them up. Energy is up a bit, and hunger was much more manageable, probably due to keeping carbs pretty low. I was still weak in the gym, but did Builts PSMF workout #1 to completion. I certainly didn't feel stronger, but I was able to complete my lifts. I have been urinating all day, so I am looking forward to the weigh-in in the morning, I think i have dropped some water. I feel harder and less squishy. If I could get rid of the headache I would be good to go.
You should bang this chick like a mountain gorilla ~ ROID
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The headache WILL go. Take some Advil and some caffeine.
Nothing wrong with those calories, you're fine.
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Took an advil with some coffee. Headache is gone for now.
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There you go.
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Built, do I refeed at 7 days or go the whole 14?
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12SEP09:
Weight: 210.4 Much better wakeup today. General sense of fuzziness is gone, and that certain special "someone hit me with a bat" feeling was much improved. No cardio. Breakfast: Turkey Patty with salad 180 cals, 20g protein, 2g carbs Break: 5 slices of deli turkey (out of cottage cheese) 150 cals, 15g protein, 4g carbs Lunch: 2 chicken breasts, 1oz baby carrots 245 cals, 48g protein, 2g carb Break: 6 slices of deli turkey 180 cals, 18g protein, 5g carbs Dinner: Eggbeater Omelet with diced ham, and whey shake (double whey shake to try to catch up on protein) and tossing in some non-fat ricotta to add a bit. 400cals, 8g carbs, 95g protein Totals: 1185cals, 21g carbs, 200g protein Once again, I have failed on getting 1.5g protein. This isn't intentional. I misjudged the amount in the turkey slices and undershot waaaay too much. I will be eating basically the same thing tomorrow, so I will eat more turkey. Much more energetic, and hunger was even better. Instead of feeling like eating a child, I was down to feeling like threatening children until they give me their ice cream. I no longer feel like my stomach is eating my spine, and overall feel bouncier and happier. I am off of the gym again tonight. This isn't doing much for my mental state of well being, but I understand the theory behind it, and I am very very weak. While not feeling tired per se, climbing steps and lifting anything leaves me breathless and a little lightheaded. I still had a headache all day, but I was able to control it with caffeine and advil (thanks Built). My caffeine intake is really getting high though. I am already using the EC stack, and now I am up to about 2-3 cups of coffee throughout the day. For someone who doesn't even drink soda, this is a lot.
You should bang this chick like a mountain gorilla ~ ROID
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No carrots.
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Could the carrots make me retain water? I only lost .3lbs yesterday, and while I know that daily weigh ins arent a good indication of anything, as low as my cals were yesterday, I would have expected a lower number.
Built, also, do I refeed at the 7 day mark, or go the entire 14?
You should bang this chick like a mountain gorilla ~ ROID
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Carrots contain too many carbs for this diet. Best just to leave them out. Stick to fibrous carbs for this diet like romaine, brocolli, spinach, celery, etc.. |
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