Thread: Diets High In Sodium & Artificially Sweetened Soda Linked To Kidney Function Decline

These were nurses whose health was followed, right?

Nurses are a notoriously unhealthy group. I see them standing in the rain outside hospitals smoking cigarettes all the time, obese and overworked. My guess is these subjects aren't eating very well, aren't drinking much water and aren't athletes! Hardly generalizable to our particular demographic.

I remain unconcerned about modest consumption of these items by healthy, well-hydrated athletes.

Originally Posted by Built

These were nurses whose health was followed, right?

Nurses are a notoriously unhealthy group. I see them standing in the rain outside hospitals smoking cigarettes all the time, obese and overworked. My guess is these subjects aren't eating very well, aren't drinking much water and aren't athletes! Hardly generalizable to our particular demographic.

I remain unconcerned about modest consumption of these items by healthy, well-hydrated athletes.

Thats a select few though. Do you think most of them would smoke when they see people having severe lung complications from smoking? Theres obviously smokers in every area, even athletes.

Besides, this is a more viable study because not everybody eats like an athlete do they?

Originally Posted by T_man

Thats a select few though. Do you think most of them would smoke when they see people having severe lung complications from smoking? Theres obviously smokers in every area, even athletes.

I don't know how many health care pros you know, but from what I've seen, nurses - and doctors for that matter - are notoriously blase about their health. I'm more surprised when I see a fit health care professional than when I see an out of shape one.

Theirs is a culture of overwork - many work in excess of 70 hours a week, working double and back to back shifts. The stress takes a toll, and it shows.

Originally Posted by T_man

Besides, this is a more viable study because not everybody eats like an athlete do they?

Not everyone does.

This study is not done on athletes. It may not be particularly generalizable to us since our bodies make better use of the food that we eat.

Put it this way - most folks outside physical culture don't consider salt and dextrose to be ergogenic aids, but we do: sodium helps keep muscles hydrated, and the insulin response due to dextrose helps us repair and grow muscle. Besides, most of us here consume fairly premeditated diets. Most outside of our weird little world wouldn't know how many calories they eat or how much protein. It's one of my pet peeves with this type of research - it doesn't pertain to me because it wasn't designed in a way that helps me tailor my diet.

I agree it wasnt the best sample. I was just trying to be nice to the nurses who helped me get through a cold

However, it does say diets high in sodium and artificially sweetened drinks. Having your RDA is beneficial and in no way high but if it's high then it's a problem right?

i particularly love how it specifies what "high" is

and what artificial sweeteners are they refering to?

theres alot of details being left out here...

i seriously doubt that aspartame, asulfame potassium, and sucrolose have the same effects, being so chemically different...

does this study pertain to stevia which claims to be a "natural" sweetener

further are these even controlled studies?
or could their be other variables in play here...
it seems to me that almost any study done on "nurses" could not be very closely controlled...