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    yesterday concluded an experiment i've been doing for the last 30 days. i haven't consumed 1 single drop of alcohol. i wasn't a real heavy drinker anyway (3 or 4 beers after work / a few mixed drinks on the weekend / etc.) i always got budweiser select (55 cal.) and when i would drink liquor, i would mix it with diet coke, so i felt like i was doing pretty good. a friend of mine at the gym challened me to totally stop drinking for a month & see what happened. i decided to try it. i didn't change my diet or my workout routine at all. i have fought the urge all month long to get on the scales. i could tell my clothes fit a little looser, so i knew i was losing some weight. i got on the scale this morning when i got up and i have lost 11 lbs (209 to 198).

    needless to say i'm very excited with the results of my experiment. i had no idea how much drinking alcohol (and not all that much) effects your weight.

    unfortunately, with football season soming up, i won't be able to refrain from drinking and will probably gain some, if not all of it back.

    just thought i would share my experience.

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    kudos to you LOL I have a vodka and perrier nightly and I too tried this... I stopped only for one week though (wink) and did not see ANY change so back to the glass for me but mb I will do it for longer and see what happens

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    Good for you....I gave up alcohol for lent 1 yr (40 days) and I didnt notice a difference at all, must've been eating more.

    I did have dinner/drinks w my neighbors last night and they are trying the Atkins (no beer or wine) so he made me something they can have.....
    Vanilla vodka with diet ginger ale,

    He didnt serve it but recommended:
    Grape Vodka martini with frozen grapes (and I think maybe grape crystal light?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by klc9100 View Post
    yesterday concluded an experiment i've been doing for the last 30 days. i haven't consumed 1 single drop of alcohol. i wasn't a real heavy drinker anyway (3 or 4 beers after work / a few mixed drinks on the weekend / etc.) i always got budweiser select (55 cal.) and when i would drink liquor, i would mix it with diet coke, so i felt like i was doing pretty good. a friend of mine at the gym challened me to totally stop drinking for a month & see what happened. i decided to try it. i didn't change my diet or my workout routine at all. i have fought the urge all month long to get on the scales. i could tell my clothes fit a little looser, so i knew i was losing some weight. i got on the scale this morning when i got up and i have lost 11 lbs (209 to 198).

    needless to say i'm very excited with the results of my experiment. i had no idea how much drinking alcohol (and not all that much) effects your weight.

    unfortunately, with football season soming up, i won't be able to refrain from drinking and will probably gain some, if not all of it back.

    just thought i would share my experience.
    Wow, good job!

    Alcohol is fine in moderation, but too much is counter-productive (ya I know, news flash, right? haha).

    Even for those who keep it to once a weekend or two, the sheer number of calories is incredible -- and we're talking nutritionally-devoid calories. One can of beer has approximately 150 calories, so someone who drinks 11 beers in one night will gain 100 calories shy of half a pound of fat! And, for those who are more regular partiers and will drink upwards of 15 beers in one night or more, well you can imagine.

    The thing I find more disturbing is for the people who party excessively yet don't gain much of a gut because they don't eat enough real calories that I think their body is actually using the alcohol for energy....disgusting. I already eat 100-600 calories over maintenance when bulking. If I drink 1,000 calories of beer on top of that I wont lose that fat unless I go on a deficit, which obviously puts my muscle building on hold.

    If you're going to drink, I'd suggest liquor with a diet pop. Diet drinks have their own issues with the aspartame or whatever artificial sweetener is used, but at least they don't contribute calories. Liquor is more bang for your buck. Fewer calories, and it gets the job done faster!

    As Ozzy so perfectly said on Blizzard of Oz: "Whine is fine, but Whiskey's quicker".

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    i have 2 beers in the summer thats it, but, even that little amount i feel real bloated, more than the gear, so i dont like it.


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    I've been drinking 3 Michelob Ultra's each night for a while now, and it's kind of a must for me...

    Sometimes I wonder how much thinner I could be if I didn't, or how muscular...

    I've been paying attention to this thread -

    IN SHORT: I DRINK 3 MICHELOB ULTRA'S EVERY NIGHT
    WHAT DAMAGE AM I DOING TO MY BODYBUILDING ???

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    Holy crap, 15 beers a night? I would be drunk off my ass after about 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMRQ View Post
    I've been drinking 3 Michelob Ultra's each night for a while now, and it's kind of a must for me...

    Sometimes I wonder how much thinner I could be if I didn't, or how muscular...

    I've been paying attention to this thread -

    IN SHORT: I DRINK 3 MICHELOB ULTRA'S EVERY NIGHT
    WHAT DAMAGE AM I DOING TO MY BODYBUILDING ???
    I used to do the exact same thing. About 3 or 4 beers almost every night while I was watching TV. And then on Friday or Saturday, probably about 6 or 7 beers while out with friends. Then I decided to cut out drinking during the week, and only on the weekend. I tell you, it makes a huge difference. Not only do you feel better, have more energy, sleep better. I would definately give it a try if your serious about your health!

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    Mix your favorite beverage ahead of time and put it in plastic cups to carry along.

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    Booze is every mans friend!

    Example

    My wife came home the other day with some new makeup. Is asked " What did you buy that for", she replied "so I look beautiful for you" to which I replied " thats why I drink beer honey". Boom Boom!
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    Alcohol has been said to inhibit testosterone secretion. I've read a few things online that confirm that, and I believe it to be true, but everyone should do their own research.

    I do drink, but am trying to cut back, a glass or two of white wine with my gf on the weekend is my goal. I can tell you that friends of mine who are heavy drinkers (my father included) are not in very good shape, even the ones that work out. But I wouldn't blame the drink on everything. I think if you have a solid workout, a solid diet, and are healthy, then a few drinks a week is fine....

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    ^And something something cortisol. I've been having one or two drinks with my weekly cheat meal, but that's been it since April.

    "In response to alcohol, the levels of cortisol - the chief glucocorticoid hormone in humans - can be substantial and even surpass the levels typically seen in response to various stressful circumstances."

    "Alcohol directly affects many brain chemicals that signal the adrenal glands to produce and secrete cortisol. High levels of intoxication may be interpreted as general 'stress,' which could stimulate cortisol release. Finally, after drinking a lot of alcohol for a long time, the sudden stopping of drinking can produce a stressful 'withdrawal' state, which can also increase cortisol production."

    alcohol use and cortisol level - Google Search

    "The major catabolic effects of cortisol involve its facilitating the conversion of protein in muscles and connective tissue into glucose and glycogen (cortisol may increase liver glycogen). Gluconeogenesis involves both the increased degradation of protein already formed and the decreased synthesis of new protein."

    cortisol and muscles - Google Search

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    kudos!....alcohol while it is fun to drink at times is basically poison to the human body. when consumed in excess there is pretty much an inverse effect on the BAC and test levels. the higher the BAC the lower T levels go. it also disrupts the krebs cycle, causes dehydration which of course inhibits lipolysis formation of ATP, etc...
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    still doing the same thing and i'm down to 194 :-)

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    Football season....I'm fucked!!!

    Mmmmmm Beer

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtbmed View Post
    Holy crap, 15 beers a night? I would be drunk off my ass after about 3.

    same here, i cant imagine even being able to drink that much. the most i ever consumed was 4 beers and i was shot.


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    Not a drinker, and I haven't been for many years. I drank a lot when I was young, but got out of it at the end of my 20's. Now days I'd rather use the calories to indulge in food. I think drinking is counter-productive, especially when you get over 40 like me. That's just what works for me.

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    I still love my 3 Michelob Ultra's each night

    Sometimes I wonder how much stomach pudge it's adding though...

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    I drink just about every other night, a LOT. I usually kill a half gallon of whiskey between me and 1-2 other buddys. The weekends is just overboard. I don't have that big of a gut and I eat a lot. Im still growing but I wonder how much I would grow if I didn't drink at all. Needless to say it's not going to stop so im going to keep wondering!

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    the most i heard someone drink was gallon of vodka in one day 12 hrs actually he was 20 yrs old. he showed a .53 % blood alc on the old ritcher scale lol. now i would be dead with 1 pint i just cant imagine sometimes if these guys are lying but the dr said no. i dont believe them. thats 53% of his blood was alcohol. he was talking and laughing about it, i thought holly fuck your still standing more or less laughing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by klc9100 View Post

    unfortunately, with football season soming up, i won't be able to refrain from drinking and will probably gain some, if not all of it back.
    Football and beer go hand in hand. I prefer basketball and could watch it sober all day. Liquor becomes a weakness for me at clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HialeahChico305 View Post
    Football and beer go hand in hand. I prefer basketball and could watch it sober all day. Liquor becomes a weakness for me at clubs.
    Touche' It's a dead end for me when it comes to football.

    I don't actually watch a lot of basketball until the playoffs though Bandwagon Celts fan here!

    How awesome did the Pat's look tonight though I've got Edelman as a sleeper! And, we so need to ditch Maroney. Thankfully, its his last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diablo1990 View Post
    I drink just about every other night, a LOT. I usually kill a half gallon of whiskey between me and 1-2 other buddys. The weekends is just overboard. I don't have that big of a gut and I eat a lot. Im still growing but I wonder how much I would grow if I didn't drink at all. Needless to say it's not going to stop so im going to keep wondering!

    I am a whiskey man myself (Jameson). I have cut back to next to nothing because I have been curious to see the effects of not drinking. I will say that those I partied with back in the day, who still party hard 8 years later...it has caught up to them. When your in your early 20's it is easy to hit the bottle often...but the guys now who did that back then (even the ones I knew who were athletes) look terrible these days.

    Also, you here alot of people talk about how stacking heavy on supplements and prohormones can be bad for the liver...im sure drinking doesn't help at all....just throwing that out there.

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    I love Jameson but I usually drink 50% Old Grand Dad. Im going to the bar tonight probably just have a bunch of captain cokes + shots of ogd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxingorilla View Post
    I am a whiskey man myself (Jameson). I have cut back to next to nothing because I have been curious to see the effects of not drinking. I will say that those I partied with back in the day, who still party hard 8 years later...it has caught up to them. When your in your early 20's it is easy to hit the bottle often...but the guys now who did that back then (even the ones I knew who were athletes) look terrible these days.




    Also, you here alot of people talk about how stacking heavy on supplements and prohormones can be bad for the liver...im sure drinking doesn't help at all....just throwing that out there.

    Right on point. A lot of my highschool friends who are still partying hard look terrible, kinda like they have aged physically a lot quicker than me. I have a friend who looks 35 and she is basically my age mid 20's. Moderation is the key and whoever gets addicted to the party life good luck later in the future with your liver and fucked up skin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMRQ View Post
    I still love my 3 Michelob Ultra's each night

    Sometimes I wonder how much stomach pudge it's adding though...
    Yo will not gain weight from beer flavored water.(just f'n with you)It eases stress it's good for xcess cortisol.

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    I have a glass of red vine with some of my dinners. As far as drinking till you fall down that seems to me to be a bit childish. I lost a good friend to a drunk driver and I'm glad the laws in the USA are strict on bone heads who drink and drive.

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    After this last weekend I can attest to the effects of alcohol on workingout! Had a buddies 30th Sat night at a Mexican bar with over 70 different Tequillas, think I tried about a dozen of them, then onto a club where I drank imported beer. Not only was I $170 dollars lighter but I couldn't manage to move the 5 metres from my couch to my garage to workout. Now my weekly training split is out of wack.

    The only good thing to come out of it is that I've decided to give up the smokes and they go hand in hand with booze, so booze is out now to for a least 3 months. Theres nothing like a massive hangover and flem to kick your ass into quiting!
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeksetm View Post
    After this last weekend I can attest to the effects of alcohol on workingout! Had a buddies 30th Sat night at a Mexican bar with over 70 different Tequillas, think I tried about a dozen of them, then onto a club where I drank imported beer. Not only was I $170 dollars lighter but I couldn't manage to move the 5 metres from my couch to my garage to workout. Now my weekly training split is out of wack.

    The only good thing to come out of it is that I've decided to give up the smokes and they go hand in hand with booze, so booze is out now to for a least 3 months. Theres nothing like a massive hangover and flem to kick your ass into quiting!
    Nice man, giving up cigs will make life so much easier! Good luck

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    The thing, to me, about alcohol, is that it's very expensive. Who wants to pay for drinks all the time at the prices they go for? I'd rather use that money to buy myself a week's worth of food.

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