Confession..................

Leslie · 09-23-2002, 09:27 AM

I am a CAREFREE SUGAR FREE GUM junkie!!!!!!!!!!

I cannot stop. I have given up PB and coffee no prob. Even limited my thermos to pre cardio. BUTT (pun intended

) I cannot STOP this GUM affair. I vowed no more gum after yesterday- I just shamefully shoved twp piecse in my mouth

animal56 · 09-23-2002, 09:33 AM

OH MY! How could you?! This is a sure sign of overtraining and lack of discipline!

Of course, if you'd like, you could come over to my house and "discuss" the importance of discipline and rest.

j/k

Yanick · 09-23-2002, 09:49 AM

You seem like a very devoted person, so i say, chew the gum and enjoy it. IF, not when, IF it hinders your progress, that will be the motivation you need to drop it.

My personal beliefs are, that some of us take this WAY to seriously. Aside from those who actually compete (and even they need to have lives, because i doubt anyone here is willing to take roids and all that other shit to turn pro) we are here because we like the lifestyle and mostly we want to look good naked. I don't see the point in getting an ulcer over little things like chewing gum. I have fat-kid syndrome, so i'm in this for the long run, but i don't plan on killing myself over little insignificant things. Chew your gum proudly, you'll burn more cals

w8lifter · 09-23-2002, 10:43 AM

Leslie....IT IS HINDERING YOUR PROGRESS NOW!

Do you not remember what I told you??????

**Prince** · 09-23-2002, 11:45 AM

how is chewing sugar free gum hindering her progress?

that just seems kind of trivial.

**Mudge** · 09-23-2002, 12:09 PM

Even sugar free products produce a mild insulin spike dont they?

Leslie · 09-23-2002, 12:10 PM

Mudge is getting warm....

I KNOW W8! But I cannot stop

w8lifter · 09-23-2002, 12:13 PM

Think of your ass on stage in front of a whole theatre full of people. Is it worth gum???

**Prince** · 09-23-2002, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by w8lifter
Think of your ass on stage in front of a whole theatre full of people. Is it worth gum???

Please explain how sugar free gum is a factor?

Yanick · 09-23-2002, 12:20 PM

w8,

are you talking about the cephalic insulin response or the sugar alchohols?

w8lifter · 09-23-2002, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Leslie2196
Mudge is getting warm....

I KNOW W8! But I cannot stop

Yes! You can! Throw out all your gum and DON'T buy more!

You (we) have not worked this hard to throw it away on GUM!!!

Leslie....what was your last progress report like? ...need a serious tweak?

To everyone else....we have discussed this...where have ya'll been?

**Mudge** · 09-23-2002, 12:27 PM

I remember a post a few months ago, but dont remember much of the contents...

**Prince** · 09-23-2002, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by w8lifter
To everyone else....we have discussed this...where have ya'll been?

lost?

post the url!

**Mudge** · 09-23-2002, 12:32 PM

Chewing Gum - makes people smarter
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...&highlight=gum (Chewing Gum)

http://www.diabetes-normalsugars.com...hapter10.shtml

Sugars
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...&highlight=gum (Sugar)

w8lifter · 09-23-2002, 12:34 PM

Chewing Gum

Caffeine Redux (Caffeine REDUX)

Just more reading (Splenda?? WTF??)

...and before ya'll start coming on to me saying "it won't make that much of a difference"...not naming names or anything (TCD)....Leslie is competing, she has been cutting for a long time and has still several weeks to go...AND her progressed has slowed.

....and, I have first-hand experience w/ gum, thermos/caffeine, and stress screwing w/ my metabolism...Leslie...do any of these apply to you?

w8lifter · 09-23-2002, 12:35 PM

Thank you Mudge, lol

Leslie · 09-23-2002, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by w8lifter

Yes! You can! Throw out all your gum and DON'T buy more!

You (we) have not worked this hard to throw it away on GUM!!!

Leslie....what was your last progress report like? ...need a serious tweak?

To everyone else....we have discussed this...where have ya'll been?

Sheesh W8, that was harsh

LOL
You are right. I just needed to "hear it" I guess.
My remaining 4 sticks are going in the garbage......ok all 7 are going in the garbage.....and the 3 packs at home

Man, my mouth tastes yucky

Leslie · 09-23-2002, 12:38 PM

BTW, sorry I stirred up this whole controversy again

Shoulda done a PM.....

w8lifter · 09-23-2002, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Leslie2196

Sheesh W8, that was harsh

LOL
You are right. I just needed to "hear it" I guess.
My remaining 4 sticks are going in the garbage......ok all 7 are going in the garbage.....and the 3 packs at home

Man, my mouth tastes yucky

LOL...I'm sorry...but I know you're a tough chickie and can handle it

Quote:

BTW, sorry I stirred up this whole controversy again

Shoulda done a PM.....

Not at all....I think everyone could use a reminder

Rob_NC · 09-23-2002, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yanick
You seem like a very devoted person, so i say, chew the gum and enjoy it. IF, not when, IF it hinders your progress, that will be the motivation you need to drop it.

My personal beliefs are, that some of us take this WAY to seriously. Aside from those who actually compete (and even they need to have lives, because i doubt anyone here is willing to take roids and all that other shit to turn pro) we are here because we like the lifestyle and mostly we want to look good naked. I don't see the point in getting an ulcer over little things like chewing gum. I have fat-kid syndrome, so i'm in this for the long run, but i don't plan on killing myself over little insignificant things. Chew your gum proudly, you'll burn more cals

Yan, I like the way you think.

Robboe · 09-23-2002, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by w8lifter
she has been cutting for a long time and has still several weeks to go...AND her progressed has slowed.

I reckon the first part of this quote explains more why her progress has slowed than chewing gum.

But i care not.

Well, not exactly. I want her to do well, but i don't care how you make her go about things.

yeah, that's better.

Yanick · 09-23-2002, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rob_NC

Yan, I like the way you think.

Thanx Rob.

w8,

i was in no way trying to undermine anything you said. I completely understant the dangers of the CIR, and sugar alcohols to a competitive bodybuilder's diet, especially in the last few weeks of dieting prior to competition.

Everyone else,

note i bolded 'competitive' so don't start calling me hypocritical, because i still stand by my earlier statement of not going ape sh*t over little details. However, anyone that knows anything about pre-contest dieting has to know about the absolute discipline that the last few weeks require.

Leslie · 09-23-2002, 01:41 PM

I think the above is an agreeable stmnt- my show is like 4 weeks away- so I guess I need to steer clear of sweeteners ect- Once the show is done, I will be back on the gum kick for sure

EarWax · 09-23-2002, 02:32 PM

LOL, gum? I thought gum actually helped you burn calories? Right? By the way, I'm a Dentine Ice gum junkie.

lina · 09-23-2002, 02:40 PM

Wow imagine what a lil 'innocent' Artificial Sweetners in gum can do and how critical than can be near contest time...

But what about toothpaste? Did you know some if not most brands have AS in them? So what's a competitive bb to do?

Have a nice buff body with a stinky breath?

**Prince** · 09-23-2002, 03:14 PM

you really should not eat toothpaste though!

09-23-2002, 09:27 AM	#1
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	Confession.................. I am a CAREFREE SUGAR FREE GUM junkie!!!!!!!!!! I cannot stop. I have given up PB and coffee no prob. Even limited my thermos to pre cardio. BUTT (pun intended ) I cannot STOP this GUM affair. I vowed no more gum after yesterday- I just shamefully shoved twp piecse in my mouth
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09-23-2002, 09:33 AM	#2
animal56 Totally Blasted to Shreds Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: O...Canada! Posts: 322	OH MY! How could you?! This is a sure sign of overtraining and lack of discipline! Of course, if you'd like, you could come over to my house and "discuss" the importance of discipline and rest. j/k
	Those who trumpet their sufferings are most deserving of misery.

09-23-2002, 09:49 AM	#3
Yanick Amor Fati Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,798	You seem like a very devoted person, so i say, chew the gum and enjoy it. IF, not when, IF it hinders your progress, that will be the motivation you need to drop it. My personal beliefs are, that some of us take this WAY to seriously. Aside from those who actually compete (and even they need to have lives, because i doubt anyone here is willing to take roids and all that other shit to turn pro) we are here because we like the lifestyle and mostly we want to look good naked. I don't see the point in getting an ulcer over little things like chewing gum. I have fat-kid syndrome, so i'm in this for the long run, but i don't plan on killing myself over little insignificant things. Chew your gum proudly, you'll burn more cals
Yanick Amor Fati Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,798	"...we have to remember that training is a complicated dance of stimuli and response. Our goal is to understand how to manipulate the stimuli in order to evoke the responses we desire." -Nathan J. Polenchek

09-23-2002, 11:45 AM	#5
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,730 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	how is chewing sugar free gum hindering her progress? that just seems kind of trivial.
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09-23-2002, 12:09 PM	#6
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,027 Photos: 1	Even sugar free products produce a mild insulin spike dont they?
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09-23-2002, 10:43 AM	#4
w8lifter Join Date: May 2001 Location: Around..... Posts: 14,964	Leslie....IT IS HINDERING YOUR PROGRESS NOW! Do you not remember what I told you??????

09-23-2002, 12:10 PM	#7
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	Mudge is getting warm.... I KNOW W8! But I cannot stop
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09-23-2002, 12:13 PM	#8
w8lifter Join Date: May 2001 Location: Around..... Posts: 14,964	Think of your ass on stage in front of a whole theatre full of people. Is it worth gum???

09-23-2002, 12:20 PM	#10
Yanick Amor Fati Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,798	w8, are you talking about the cephalic insulin response or the sugar alchohols?
Yanick Amor Fati Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,798	"...we have to remember that training is a complicated dance of stimuli and response. Our goal is to understand how to manipulate the stimuli in order to evoke the responses we desire." -Nathan J. Polenchek

09-23-2002, 12:27 PM	#12
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,027 Photos: 1	I remember a post a few months ago, but dont remember much of the contents...
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

09-23-2002, 12:32 PM	#14
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,027 Photos: 1	Chewing Gum - makes people smarter http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...&highlight=gum (Chewing Gum) http://www.diabetes-normalsugars.com...hapter10.shtml Sugars http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...&highlight=gum (Sugar)

09-23-2002, 12:34 PM	#15
w8lifter Join Date: May 2001 Location: Around..... Posts: 14,964	Chewing Gum Caffeine Redux (Caffeine REDUX) Just more reading (Splenda?? WTF??) ...and before ya'll start coming on to me saying "it won't make that much of a difference"...not naming names or anything (TCD)....Leslie is competing, she has been cutting for a long time and has still several weeks to go...AND her progressed has slowed. ....and, I have first-hand experience w/ gum, thermos/caffeine, and stress screwing w/ my metabolism...Leslie...do any of these apply to you?

09-23-2002, 12:35 PM	#16
w8lifter Join Date: May 2001 Location: Around..... Posts: 14,964	Thank you Mudge, lol

09-23-2002, 12:38 PM	#18
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	BTW, sorry I stirred up this whole controversy again Shoulda done a PM.....
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09-23-2002, 01:41 PM	#23
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	I think the above is an agreeable stmnt- my show is like 4 weeks away- so I guess I need to steer clear of sweeteners ect- Once the show is done, I will be back on the gum kick for sure
	Leslie My Journal My Sponsor:www.AvantLabs.com

09-23-2002, 02:32 PM	#24
EarWax Top Banana Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ...in a galaxy, far, far, away Posts: 872	LOL, gum? I thought gum actually helped you burn calories? Right? By the way, I'm a Dentine Ice gum junkie.
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09-23-2002, 02:40 PM	#25
lina It's a Wonderful Life!!! Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lounging around... Posts: 2,797	Wow imagine what a lil 'innocent' Artificial Sweetners in gum can do and how critical than can be near contest time... But what about toothpaste? Did you know some if not most brands have AS in them? So what's a competitive bb to do? Have a nice buff body with a stinky breath?

09-23-2002, 03:14 PM	#26
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,730 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	you really should not eat toothpaste though!
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