Thread: need help bulking scrawny teen

If you are following P90X nutritional guide you arent gonna gain any mass. If thats the only weight training you have to work with then you need to bump up your food intake. 2650calories is what I eat before noon. Not quite but you get the idea. Eat more food and train with high intensity and come back in 6 months.

how many calories do you think i should eat lol im a noobie and dont know anything

How long have you been eating 2650 calories? Have you been gaining weight with that intake?

If not, bump up your calories by 300 or so until you start gaining weight.

If you are not gaining or losing weight at 2650, then you've found your maintenance calories (i.e. the amount of calories that you don't gain or lose weight).

Also, ditch the percentages. A gram of protein and half a gram of fat per bodyweight is a good start. You can use 'lean body mass' instead of bodyweight if you want. Make up the rest of the calories however you want -- you can choose all carbs or a mixture of all the macros.

As far as p90x goes, Work in Progress is correct -- it sucks.

Also, chances are you can somehow rub a few pennies together to afford a gym membership. There must be a place within walking/bike riding/ parents-driving distance. Most places are about $20-30 a month and usually give discounts to young folks like you. Also, your high school might let you use theirs.

You can work once a week each month and scrape up the 30 bucks.

The program "Starting Strength" by Mark Rippetoe is a good start for you.

Another good idea is this one. One of our old forum members scratched it up and it's good enough for you, at this point.

Bump it up to 3600 if you aren't gaining at 2600 and see how that goes. Whole milk and olive oil are an easy source of calories.

sounds like you need about a half gallon of chocolate milk a day

Originally Posted by calaja52

sounds like you need about a half gallon of chocolate milk a day

yeah i would post pictres of how skinny i am but i dont wanna get embarrassed ill post em for insight if i dont get hated on lol and no the school closes in a month and my parents work till 8 every night it sucks

Originally Posted by ihateschoolmt

Bump it up to 3600 if you aren't gaining at 2600 and see how that goes. Whole milk and olive oil are an easy source of calories.

How much calories would YOU take if you were to maintain your weight at 185 lbs?

Really no need to post pics, just take them and save them as a "before" reference to your progress.

what?

Take pictures so you have something to compare to after you make some progress, but you don't have to post them if you don't want. It's just good to see were you started, once you've gained some weight.

Originally Posted by x~factor

How much calories would YOU take if you were to maintain your weight at 185 lbs?

IDK I have a really fast metabolism I would probably take somewhere around 4000 to maintain because I am taking 5000-5500 to bulk but I'm gaining a lot of weight.

I'll be posting pictures early tomorrow morning I kind of want to define my abs but people tell me I need to bulk up so I have contradicting thoughts maybe when I post the pictures tomorrow you guys can give me further onsite and some nutrition tips

honestly if you are that skinny i wouldnt even count calories, i'd just eat everything in sight and lift weights, you will put on some muscle. lots of milk, eggs, peanut butter, olive oil, sausages, even hamburger meat. ihateschoolmt knows his shit about gaining for a hardgainer, he's put on over 40 pounds in 4 months i believe

these are the pictures... the first ones basically relaxed and the other to are pretty much flexed..

I agree with increasing your calories. Pasta, Whole Milk, Olive Oil in shakes, etc. Maybe try N-Large 2 by ProLabs was great at putting on some weight. Increase the carbs intake.

I know some say to not count calories and just eat everything you can. The one reason I do like to count everything is because a lot of people think they get a lot of Carbs/Protein/Cals. and when they break everything down. It's not nearly as much as they think. It's good to keep track. Especially protein and carbs.

thanks everyone i just dont want to get fat i like being athletic because i play high school basketball....if anyone could maybe give me a sticky for sample diets or give me a sample diet and some nutritional breakdown tips thatd be great thanks.

link in my signature. check out the part about "do it yourself diet".

uh i dont want to loose weight....im 6'4 162 pounds

Originally Posted by thomassj

uh i dont want to loose weight....im 6'4 162 pounds

That link also provides advice for gaining weight. Also, if you want to bulk you're going to have to put up with gaining fat at the same time. You won't BE fat though, and you can always get rid of it later.

glad you took the time to read it

Oh im sorry I read it took cook my bad I appreciate it

Quick** and what do you guys think my bf% is?

IDK probably like 10-11%. Hard to tell from a picture, especially a grainy picture of abs.

Milk!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if you drink a pint of whole fat(is it called full cream in america?) milk with every meal and for every drink you consume in a day you will gain weight like a prostitue who always swallows.

If you feel that it isn't cutting the mustard put 2 tablespoons of olive oil on every meal will add like 1000cals to your diet.

failing that just never stop eating

The kid is 16. He wont see mass gains until his balls drop. IMO I would just focus on building a proper training foundation so in 2-4yrs you'll know how to attack and take your body to the next level.

I dont think he can do much. We can all remember how fast our metabolism was when we were his age. plus hes 6'4. Stick to your strengths. This was taken from my PSY class on Positive Psy. You want to focus on your talents not your weaknesses.

Originally Posted by TJTJ

The kid is 16. He wont see mass gains until his balls drop.

16 year olds can make mass gains, I joined this site when I was 15 and gained like 30 pounds in a little over a year. Wish I stuck with it, I quit before I turned 17 and when back down to 130 pounds.

sample diet anyone? so i can get a very good idea and i wanna do a clean bulk ive been doing some reading and i also will probably add a cheat meal or day havent decided yet every two to three weeks i was thinking about 3000-3400 calories a day i have to continue to do p90x becasue well thats my only option. i realize it isnt ideal but it'll have to do open eyes and ears to any suggests thanks!