Thread: Should I bulk or cut (please help!!)

Well I think there are potential issues then as far as me personally goes, because when I look in the mirror or any pictures of myself I see an overweight, fat individual who is carrying around at least 20-30 pounds of fat that he needs to lose.

I don't see how that is possible. How can I look in the mirror and see an overweight/obese individual yet no one else thinks the same. There is no way the mirror can be lying - I am seeing exactly what's in front of it.

I think I am an idiot you know, I will never be successful when it comes to my body. If I cut I'll miss being muscular, if I bulk I'll be fatter. I don't even think I'll be happy if I got in shape. I'll never see myself the true way.

No, you are seeing what you are telling your mind is there. You might want to seek some help if it's available, the negativity you are creating in your mind can't be good for you.

Remember, if you convince yourself that your perception is true, it becomes your reality.

Well I am actually getting help and have been but it's not easy. Like today all day I looked at myself and saw an obese person. I have felt bad all day. Well just a little bit ago I got showered and dressed because I am going out tonight and I looked in the mirror and I think I look amazing. I really don't know what I look like. It's a shame because it's really taking a toll on me, and plus I carbed up today but ate a lot of calories (4,000) so I feel fat and disgusted. I don't know what to do anymore. I am doomed for failure. The only way I can stick to my diet is if I workout everyday. I feel like four days in the gym is not enough. I would be better off if I have a five or six day split because I never binge on workout days. I need to be in the gym monday through saturday I feel like.

You need to stop this negative thinking. You need to use self control and self discipline. I'm not beating you up, I really think you can succeed. But you need to know you can. Pre-pack food, if it's not planned, don't eat it. Gym 6 days a week, no way. Maybe 4 and then get exercise another way. Walk, ride a bike, skate, go to a park and relax. You got this, just gotta get your head straight.

Usually if your in doubt then continue to bulk.

I'll be that guy I don't mind. There's been some great advice given in this thread, damn my own advice I gave, plenty of more reputable sources have chimed in and gave you some good "in's and out's" now make a freakin decision and apply it instead of draggin this "dear abby" story out, this is not the Maury Povich show for gods sake.

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Pretty compassionate, aren't we?

Originally Posted by Anabolic5150

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Pretty compassionate, aren't we?

I'll admit it I am not a very sympathetic person, I mean I get it shit happens, a lot out of "our" controll. Somtimes you get dealt a shit hand, you can either A) piss face about it and pout and do nothing or B)mourn for a sec then overcome the problem/obstacle. Obviously brainstorming/colaborating with others ect ect on a plan of action to over come, progress and mitigate it from happening again.

Choice B has been taking in this thread I believe by the initiative taken to ask for help, thats comendable, there are TONS of people that live in choice A day to day. HOWEVER I just felt the thread swaying back the meter to choice A and soaking up the crying shoulder attention; where as I feel it's time for the hugs and kisses to get put away and the OP to take the "tools" offered, make a decision and get to work.

I agree. But some need a gentle hand up, some a kick in the ass. Let's save the kick for now if that's cool.

Originally Posted by divfan80

Well I am actually getting help and have been but it's not easy. Like today all day I looked at myself and saw an obese person. I have felt bad all day. Well just a little bit ago I got showered and dressed because I am going out tonight and I looked in the mirror and I think I look amazing. I really don't know what I look like. It's a shame because it's really taking a toll on me, and plus I carbed up today but ate a lot of calories (4,000) so I feel fat and disgusted. I don't know what to do anymore. I am doomed for failure. The only way I can stick to my diet is if I workout everyday. I feel like four days in the gym is not enough. I would be better off if I have a five or six day split because I never binge on workout days. I need to be in the gym monday through saturday I feel like.

After reading your post I have a feeling that your mind is messing up with you. It is trying to make things look worse than things actully are. It is like a monkey jumping back and forth and up and down on the tree, making you restless and unable to focus on your goal. When you bulk it is telling you that you are too fat. When you cut it is telling you that you are too skinny. When you look at the mirror it wants you to believe whatever it wants. You don't have to believe every thing you think you know.
I think your problem is your are not happy with how you look. What ever is bothering you have to be realistic and know what your goal is.

You have two options to: Option 1. Do nothig to solve your promblem and live unhappy rest of your life.
Option 2. Admit there is a problem and do something about it. Even if it is babbies step you will get there eventually.

If you choose option 1 then am sorry for you. If you choose option 2 then follow the advice given by fellow members.

All the happy and sad things are part of package of this life. But good thing is we humans have ability to do something about it. So be glad.

Originally Posted by Hench;2293238[B

]You would look 10x better if you got rid of some of that goodam hair! lol
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+1 for bulking.

x2 lol REPS.

OP needs to talk to someone about this disorder. I can understand that you all are trying to help with this muscle gain but I think it's more of a mental disorder that OP needs to address to a doctor about because this will not end well if he does not address the main problem first. Once he can overcome this then he can start focusing more on muscle gain without thinking about death.

Just may 2 cents on the matter.

There seems to be too much activity going on in his mind that is driving him crazy. May be he should also try supplement called 'Suntheanine.' There is evidence from clinical trial that this supplement regulates activity in the brain. Less activity in the brain means less restlessness, and it is safer than drugs.

Well I have been on a 3,00 calorie diet for a few days now and much to my surprise it's going a lot better than expected. Most of my binge cravings have settled down (probably because all my macro's are in check).
Here's a daily menu:

Post-workout -
2 Cups of oatmeal with whey

Snack:
2 cans Tuna and 2 cups brown rice

Lunch:
8 oz Chicken and broccoli

Dinner:
8 oz. lean red meat
Eggs
Broccoli

Nighttime snack:
1 cup cottage cheese
1 scoop whey
2 tbsp. pb

Water intake = 1 gal per day
Supplements = no xplode, cell mass, nitrix, multivitamin, fish oil tablets, super b complex

[QUOTE=divfan80;2311557]Well I have been on a 3,00 calorie diet for a few days now and much to my surprise it's going a lot better than expected. Most of my binge cravings have settled down (probably because all my macro's are in check).
Here's a daily menu:

If you just do cardio for workout then you might not need preworkout meal. But if you lift weights then atleast eat a small meal for preworkout such as a banana with whey shake.

Post-workout -
About after half an hour, simple carbs and Whey is good idea if you lift weights

2 Cups of oatmeal with whey
Looks fine


Snack:
2 cans Tuna and 2 cups brown rice
looks fine

Lunch:
8 oz Chicken and broccoli
Looks fine. If I were you, I would eat one cup rice here from above.

Dinner:
8 oz. lean red meat
Eggs
Broccoli
Looks fine

Nighttime snack:
1 cup cottage cheese
1 scoop whey
2 tbsp. pb
Looks fine. I think 1 scoop whey is not nescessary.

Water intake = 1 gal per day
Supplements = no xplode, cell mass, nitrix, multivitamin, fish oil tablets, super b complex
Nitrix is not needed

I take NO Xplode before I workout (I workout in the AM's) and you're supposed to take it on an empty stomach..so how would I work around that in order to eat something? I get up early as it is (5am).

As far as my routine goes this is what I am doing:

http://www.muscleandstrength.com/wor...ing-split.html

Originally Posted by divfan80

I take NO Xplode before I workout (I workout in the AM's) and you're supposed to take it on an empty stomach..so how would I work around that in order to eat something? I get up early as it is (5am).

As far as my routine goes this is what I am doing:

Power Muscle Burn 5 Day Powerbuilding Split | Muscle & Strength

No biggie if no time to eat. Make sure to take some simple carbs with whey after workout. Then about hour later take some complex carbs and protein. If you have enough time before you workout, I would rather take banana, whey and coffee intead of No Xplode, otherwise again no biggie.
Hope this helps