Thread: Question about Milk

Fuck ya it's a better source of calories. I drink a lot of whole milk everyday it's great.

Originally Posted by ihateschoolmt

Fuck ya it's a better source of calories. I drink a lot of whole milk everyday it's great.

Ihate and myself are firmly in agreement on this (we're like the milk tag team), Milk is a bulkers or hardgainers best friend in terms of calories you can add close to 1000cals to any meal just by drinking it on the side

Originally Posted by feinburgrl

I'm not a big milk drinker but now that I'm working full time. I'm going to have a hard time getting the calories I need to build muscle. My parents always get skim milk but would like to know if whole milk is a better source of calories and FAT.

Thanks

get the whole milk down you! due to the higher saturated fat it should blunt some of the insulin response I believe and so you are less likely to put on fat or experience reduced insulin sensitivity. Of course I could be wrong

Honestly, I keep both on hand always.... I usually hit up the Whole early and midday but in the evenings I go with skim. Just my .02

Originally Posted by usafchris

Honestly, I keep both on hand always.... I usually hit up the Whole early and midday but in the evenings I go with skim. Just my .02

Why don't you just drink 2% all day lol.

The difference between whole milk and 2% milk is 2 grams of fat per servings (8oz), that is it. But the taste is so much better with whole milk.

I do use skim milk for my protein shake since I can't tell the difference between skim and whole milk when mixed with my protein powder.

allright educate me Trapz and ihateschool I've been noticing it a lot, milk suggestions that is. I get it, you can get a good chunk of calories, little protein, and ofcourse calcium and I'm sure i'm missing some other "pros" but for some reason I've always had this "block" in my mind to be moderate with dairy inturpeting it as taking in a bunch of unneeded useless fat. Bulking or not just seems like you're compiling a bigger cutting project when it comes time. Like I said I put this block in my head that its ok moderately but also that it's "dirty" calories. Apparently I'm missing somthing, you've been around a while ihateschool so feed my ignorant mind here......I could have sworn I even saw suggestions for chocolate at that in another thread- could be mistaken though. Not trying to be cynical at all I feel I'm truely missing some need info in my brain box here.

Whole milk all the way.

Originally Posted by Curlingcadys

allright educate me Trapz and ihateschool I've been noticing it a lot, milk suggestions that is. I get it, you can get a good chunk of calories, little protein, and ofcourse calcium and I'm sure i'm missing some other "pros" but for some reason I've always had this "block" in my mind to be moderate with dairy inturpeting it as taking in a bunch of unneeded useless fat. Bulking or not just seems like you're compiling a bigger cutting project when it comes time. Like I said I put this block in my head that its ok moderately but also that it's "dirty" calories. Apparently I'm missing somthing, you've been around a while ihateschool so feed my ignorant mind here......I could have sworn I even saw suggestions for chocolate at that in another thread- could be mistaken though. Not trying to be cynical at all I feel I'm truely missing some need info in my brain box here.

Milk is the most natural thing you will every put in your body. You've been drinking it since you were first born!

Originally Posted by Curlingcadys

taking in a bunch of unneeded useless fat.

There's your problem -- dietary fat can be certainly needed and useful.

Originally Posted by ihateschoolmt

Why don't you just drink 2% all day lol.

I have considered it.... Maybe I just like having the options

Originally Posted by Curlingcadys

allright educate me Trapz and ihateschool I've been noticing it a lot, milk suggestions that is. I get it, you can get a good chunk of calories, little protein, and ofcourse calcium and I'm sure i'm missing some other "pros" but for some reason I've always had this "block" in my mind to be moderate with dairy inturpeting it as taking in a bunch of unneeded useless fat. Bulking or not just seems like you're compiling a bigger cutting project when it comes time. Like I said I put this block in my head that its ok moderately but also that it's "dirty" calories. Apparently I'm missing somthing, you've been around a while ihateschool so feed my ignorant mind here......I could have sworn I even saw suggestions for chocolate at that in another thread- could be mistaken though. Not trying to be cynical at all I feel I'm truely missing some need info in my brain box here.

Firstly depending on the amount of milk you drink it is certainly not a little protein! about 20g per pint of milk adds up!

fat is essential for so many things that consuming it from a natural almost unrefined source is brilliant, saturated fats especially are important for hormone production and other fats are used in cell membrane maintenance.

If like my self you follow a typical trainer's diet there is a good chance your not getting a lot of saturated fats in unless your adding oils to your food milk can be a life saver to get those saturated fats in.

I don't know what you use as a marker for cutting but I always either go off a weight target or if I go above a certain bodyfat% so really the cutting phase is not altered.

Originally Posted by x~factor

Milk is the most natural thing you will every put in your body. You've been drinking it since you were first born!

X is right here, if it was good enough for the first several months of your life why is it anydifferent now? hell I add colostrum powder to some of my milk just because of the fact that it is present in mother milk shortly after giving birth


Did I miss anything Ihate?

Originally Posted by Curlingcadys

allright educate me Trapz and ihateschool I've been noticing it a lot, milk suggestions that is. I get it, you can get a good chunk of calories, little protein, and ofcourse calcium and I'm sure i'm missing some other "pros" but for some reason I've always had this "block" in my mind to be moderate with dairy inturpeting it as taking in a bunch of unneeded useless fat. Bulking or not just seems like you're compiling a bigger cutting project when it comes time. Like I said I put this block in my head that its ok moderately but also that it's "dirty" calories. Apparently I'm missing somthing, you've been around a while ihateschool so feed my ignorant mind here......I could have sworn I even saw suggestions for chocolate at that in another thread- could be mistaken though. Not trying to be cynical at all I feel I'm truely missing some need info in my brain box here.

Fat in needed in the body for quite a few functions, I know a lot of people think that the body can more easily store fat calories as fat in the body, but the process of converting fat into calories and then back into fat is a little more complicated than that. Refined sugar is actually most easily converted into fat.

I think what scares most people off is that people trying to loose weight sometimes try to stay away from fat all together (which is also bad but another issue) Their reasoning for this is that fat has 9 calories per gram and carbs and protein have 4. So it's just really easy to make fat calories add up on a cut, which is the opposite of they want. But if you are bulking it's just making our lives easier! Especially for us skinny guys, go in my gallery and look at were I started, I was 148 pounds at 6'1. I had to start eating 4,000 calories a week to see any gains, and now I am up to 5500-6k now that I'm in the 190's. It would be impossible for me to eat 6k calories or plain chicken breast and rice, so I got to put cheese on my chicken and fry my rice up with eggs and pineapple and butter.

I did probably mention to someone that if they are skinny like me to put chocolate in their milk. Post workout it's good to drink that to restore your glycogen you most liked burned while working out. But as for the rest of the time it's because us supper skinny guys can had moderate sugar intake as we burn so many calories. It's the only sugar I eat during the day but it does add up to about 500 calories. Now I would not recommend that anyone other than someone whose having trouble stuffing down enough calories to grow, it's a dirty last resort kind of trick.

Originally Posted by trapzilla

Did I miss anything Ihate?

You know it's weird you didn't really miss anything, yet I managed to type some long drawn out shit that was 10 times longer than what you said that added no extra information.

Originally Posted by Marat

There's your problem -- dietary fat can be certainly needed and useful.

I know this.
However yes I do try to dodge most saturated and trans fats, I don't 100% but I do put good effort towards it though.

Thanks for the run down Trapz and ihateschool a good chunk of what knew some of what I didn't-good points. I do drink it moderately just not daily; and at my cal intake now if I'm planing on it I usually eliminate somthing else. I do get calcium, just else where.

Originally Posted by ihateschoolmt

You know it's weird you didn't really miss anything, yet I managed to type some long drawn out shit that was 10 times longer than what you said that added no extra information.

Haha, I thought it was very useful to the discussion actually, it provided a real world example of results

Originally Posted by Curlingcadys

I know this.
However yes I do try to dodge most saturated and trans fats, I don't 100% but I do put good effort towards it though.

Thanks for the run down Trapz and ihateschool a good chunk of what knew some of what I didn't-good points. I do drink it moderately just not daily; and at my cal intake now if I'm planing on it I usually eliminate somthing else. I do get calcium, just else where.

What were trying to say is you should embrace saturated fats from natural sources but do avoid transfats 100%.

were not saying you should 100% drink it if you don't need to, just that it is a cheap, convenient way to add cals, carbs, fats and protein to your diet should you need the boost.

^ Yea saturated animal fat is healthy it's not like trans fat, I don't think the saturated fat in potato chips is good either but that's not natural animal fat.

Originally Posted by trapzilla

Haha, I thought it was very useful to the discussion actually, it provided a real world example of results




What were trying to say is you should embrace saturated fats from natural sources but do avoid transfats 100%.

were not saying you should 100% drink it if you don't need to, just that it is a cheap, convenient way to add cals, carbs, fats and protein to your diet should you need the boost.

trackin ya, makes sense.

I love milk but I dont like the sugar content. Ive seen up to 12g of sugar a serving.

Originally Posted by TJTJ

I love milk but I dont like the sugar content. Ive seen up to 12g of sugar a serving.

The sugar in milk is lactose. The big difference between lactose and sucrose, is that lactose does not contain fructose. When you're drinking milk it's not the same sugar as table "sugar", and yes in my opinion there's a difference.

Yea I forgot to mention that, it's better than table sugar I agree.

milk bloats me. i hate it

Originally Posted by primo33333

milk bloats me. i hate it

have you tried lactase pills?

try organic vitamin d or whole milk, way better. If you got the coin.

Does milk still do a body good, or is there something better out there?

Milk is like liquid muscle

if you ever have trouble meeting your cals/protein for the day throw in some whole milk and you'll be gaining in no time, plus it's pretty damn cheap

Nearly everyone and everything loves milk.




Well on second thought, some pretend to like it for $$$