Thread: Soda vs diet soda: Pros & cons

I have maybe 1 soda a week these days.

I go half/half.

Reg half the time, diet the other.

I read some where that if we drink lots of soda, it can produce effect on heart.Is that true?

They are both fuckin narly

fructose (half of HFCS), is almost a fake sugar. The body doesn't see it as something needing insulin, so it only puts out 20% of what it should during its absorption.

I drink soda on occasion. When I do, its half a 12oz can. Or I buy a 2 liter and work on it for a week.

Originally Posted by mryar

fructose (half of HFCS), is almost a fake sugar. The body doesn't see it as something needing insulin, so it only puts out 20% of what it should during its absorption.

Not really like a fake sugar at all - fructose is also half of the sugar in table sugar, honey, and fruit. It has calories, but the lack of insulin response means your body doesn't register that it has consumed them - so you stay hungry.

With regard to the superiority of sucrose (cane sugar) vs HFCS - there really are none. I've seen a few poorly designed studies claiming a difference, but nothing I'd bet the farm on.

Originally Posted by Built

Not really like a fake sugar at all - fructose is also half of the sugar in table sugar, honey, and fruit. It has calories, but the lack of insulin response means your body doesn't register that it has consumed them - so you stay hungry.

With regard to the superiority of sucrose (cane sugar) vs HFCS - there really are none. I've seen a few poorly designed studies claiming a difference, but nothing I'd bet the farm on.

So for people like me who have their diet/appetite under control,
you suggest HFCS over sucrose??

Interesting.

Also I noticed Sucrose gives me headaches, but HFCS really does not.

Is there a link?

Originally Posted by myCATpowerlifts

So for people like me who have their diet/appetite under control,
you suggest HFCS over sucrose??

I do? Where did I type that?

Originally Posted by myCATpowerlifts

Interesting.

Also I noticed Sucrose gives me headaches, but HFCS really does not.

Is there a link?

You're on crack?

Originally Posted by Built

I do? Where did I type that?

You're on crack?

I read "Lack of insulin response". And that sounded good to me.

Soda is a waste of intake. Regular is full of empty calories and diet is full of chemicals.....

How 'bout some water?

Need caffeine? Take a pill. Or coffee.

Originally Posted by myCATpowerlifts

I read "Lack of insulin response". And that sounded good to me.

?

You WANT an insulin response when you consume calories. That's part of how your body knows you consumed them!

I was also quite clear that HFCS and sucrose are virtually identical. Their composition is each about half fructose, half glucose. How could you read into that a preference for one over the other?

Originally Posted by niki

Soda is a waste of intake. Regular is full of empty calories and diet is full of chemicals.....

How 'bout some water?

Need caffeine? Take a pill. Or coffee.

Amen.

Originally Posted by Built

?

You WANT an insulin response when you consume calories. That's part of how your body knows you consumed them!

I was also quite clear that HFCS and sucrose are virtually identical. Their composition is each about half fructose, half glucose. How could you read into that a preference for one over the other?

Insulin response = fat retention ?

diet soda is for girls! to be fair thats one of the few things i havent been able to cut out my diet! ive cut down a little bit but i still drink it every day! im just now wondering what difference it would make to me if i cut it out completly...apart from my teeth not rotting.. i think i would probly have withdrawl symptoms lol.. what would be the benifit of cutting it out of my diet completly?

I switched to Diet Mt Dew instead of regular Mt Dew about a year and a half ago, now I can't drink a regular Dew..too sweet

I choose NEITHER!!!! For me, once that craving for sweet sweets takes over, theres not stopping me, like a derailed train... first a coke, then a dr pepper, then a box of donuts, then ice cream, then pie, then snickers, then reeses, chocolate mousse, then those little fancy parfaits.... HOLY F**K!!!! When will it end!!!

I'll stick with grains and nuts and rice and yams. Gotta go hit the bakery now... damn...next stop, Carbs Anonymous

First, I dont worry about my teeth rotting because I brush after each meal.
Second, a bit of diet coke is not going to kill me, so I drink one bottle of Pepsi Max daily just for shits and giggles. Everything else I consume is either coffee or water (@ least a gallon a day).
Lastly, why in hell people drink the regular shit is just asinine. It's gross.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

First, I dont worry about my teeth rotting because I brush after each meal.
Second, a bit of diet coke is not going to kill me, so I drink one bottle of Pepsi Max daily just for shits and giggles. Everything else I consume is either coffee or water (@ least a gallon a day).
Lastly, why in hell people drink the regular shit is just asinine. It's gross.

What? No watered down syrup for you?

Originally Posted by jimm

what would be the benifit of cutting it out of my diet completly?

Had a friend that worked at a soda bottling plant....there were drains in the floor due to the spillage.....went through a pair of athletic shoes every single month.....the soda ATE through the soles.....

that can't be good for ya

Originally Posted by myCATpowerlifts

What? No watered down syrup for you?

I'm scared of it.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

I'm scared of it.

You will be...you will be.

Originally Posted by jimm

diet soda is for girls!

Hey, don't put that shit on us!

I used to drink it often, I guess it was one of those things I wished I had more of as a kid, so it translated into my late teens. Now, I know the truth of it all, can't stand the crap, and feel ill each time slip for a taste/craving.

There are so many benefits to water, I don't see a point in not drinking it. Straight from the tap too, none of that bottled/filtered crap.. what's the point.

I have my morning coffee, sometimes one halfway through the day if I am doing a workout later. Some days I like to mix my protein powder with just water, sometimes milk. I have had a craving for plain glasses of milk the past 2 months-ish too, so I will have a glass every other day just like that.

No excess sugars from beverages besides a tsp in my coffee.

When I am really trying to be efficient - I add my whey protein to my coffee......surprisingly, it isn't that bad together.

Originally Posted by myCATpowerlifts

Insulin response = fat retention ?

Not an issue. Insulin response means postprandial satiety. Look up impaired first phase insulin response.

Originally Posted by Muscle_Girl

Hey, don't put that shit on us!

I used to drink it often, I guess it was one of those things I wished I had more of as a kid, so it translated into my late teens. Now, I know the truth of it all, can't stand the crap, and feel ill each time slip for a taste/craving.

There are so many benefits to water, I don't see a point in not drinking it. Straight from the tap too, none of that bottled/filtered crap.. what's the point.

I have my morning coffee, sometimes one halfway through the day if I am doing a workout later. Some days I like to mix my protein powder with just water, sometimes milk. I have had a craving for plain glasses of milk the past 2 months-ish too, so I will have a glass every other day just like that.

No excess sugars from beverages besides a tsp in my coffee.

MG, are you as aggressive in bed as you are here? I'm now scared of you.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

MG, are you as aggressive in bed as you are here? I'm now scared of you.

Ima redhead, enough said.

I don't know, I just have a good logical thought process, and sometimes I say far more than I need to.

Originally Posted by Muscle_Girl

Ima redhead, enough said.

I don't know, I just have a good logical mind, and sometimes I say far more than I need to.

There's a lot of that in this forum.

Originally Posted by Muscle_Girl

Hey, don't put that shit on us!

I used to drink it often, I guess it was one of those things I wished I had more of as a kid, so it translated into my late teens. Now, I know the truth of it all, can't stand the crap, and feel ill each time slip for a taste/craving.

There are so many benefits to water, I don't see a point in not drinking it. Straight from the tap too, none of that bottled/filtered crap.. what's the point.

I have my morning coffee, sometimes one halfway through the day if I am doing a workout later. Some days I like to mix my protein powder with just water, sometimes milk. I have had a craving for plain glasses of milk the past 2 months-ish too, so I will have a glass every other day just like that.

No excess sugars from beverages besides a tsp in my coffee.

Aww did i hit a nerve lol i mean if your gonna drink soda drink the goodstuff not the diet..ha no thts terrible advise to give on a bodybuilding forum. Im drinking my morning coffee now im going to try and not have any soda today lol if not there must be some sort of soda drinkers anonymous club close to me..

Originally Posted by niki

Soda is a waste of intake. Regular is full of empty calories and diet is full of chemicals.....

How 'bout some water?

Need caffeine? Take a pill. Or coffee.

+1

If you want something fizzy, drink bicarbonated water with a twist of lemon or lime and some fresh mint.

The bicarbonate makes it alkaline, which you want in your diet to offset the acidity of a high-protein diet.





Oh, and did I mention vodka? No? Good