Thread: Eat your carbs at night kids

Marat.....Why would I need to compare that. I have both. Your class in handling different opinions is not shared by all on this board. You eventually get back what you give. C'est la vie. Move on.

Mavrik, there are a number of members in this thread who are competitive bodybuilders - Merkaba and Juggernaut are among them.

You have also heard from a few of the many posters on ironmagazine with a great deal of scientific education. Marat began his formal education with a science degree in Dietetics, and is currently engaged in graduate work. As for me, my undergraduate and graduate degrees are in research science. Endocrinology is my hobby. I read peer-reviewed journals like people read the newspaper. I like to stay current with the research, and my formal education allows me to tell when this research has been done well - and when it has not.

I've seen a great many people with exercise science degrees come out of school with information that we have know was out of date since at least 1997 - for example, posters in my local gym where the director tells us that small, frequent meals will increase metabolic rate.

It doesn't, of course - the notion has been soundly refuted for more than a decade, but it's still taught. They still teach it to personal trainers for their certifications, and I understand it is still being taught in Dietetics programs, but there you have it - truth by repetition.

Marat has been more than polite to you. Please tone it down in your responses to him.

Now, I'm still waiting to hear how many of the obese people you've helped have managed to remain lean enough to be vascular year round for ten years or more.

Mavrik, any reason why you're so confrontational and douchey? You're coming off as a smartass just because you have a degree. It doesnt mean shit. I suggest (strongly) that you respect the peers and moderators on this board and express your opinion correctly.

Originally Posted by Built

Now, I'm still waiting to hear how many of the obese people you've helped have managed to remain lean enough to be vascular year round for ten years or more.

Fat chance of that happening.

I'm formerly obese and struggle every day/month/year with fat creeping back. At my highest in the last few years, 256lbs was a breeze to take off because I used Built's advice in carb cycling alongside IF. It works, I dropped from 256 to 238 and I'm now on a CKD to meet my contest weight of 217-220. After, I will usually put on a good 7-10lbs the first two weeks.

i think it's really good to be proud of your education but keep an open mind and be willing to KEEP learning. sometimes experience will teach you more than any book.

some people i think will suffer tremendously in order to stick to a diet. i have seen members here talking about near hallucinatory states brought on by diet and they toughed it out. i think they are the minority by far though and most people need to have a way of restricting calories that is a lot less like medieval torture. that in mind, a trainer is going to fail the majority of his clients by telling them what they should do and ignoring what they can or will do.

Insulin secretion has been posted as a reason not to eat carbs at night. I think that is trying to asume a single physiologycal response will account for whole body response. Medicine has repeteadly shown us that seldom happens.
There are plenty of gut-related hormones that are released while eating and fasting (GLP-1, GIP, PYY and Ghrelin are a few of them) and that play a role in glucogen uptake by liver and muscle and protein synthesis.
I think we need to keep our minds open.