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    Protein intake question

    How much protein per meal can the body digest and use? I was told that it was 35g and anything over that would just go to waste.

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    That is a myth. Your body can absorb more. How much? Depends on million factors.
    Look at it this way, 75 year old granny can absorb same amount as jay cutler? Is ridiculous.

    Why are u bothering about it anyway? If u need like 200g of protein, that is 33g of protein in 6 meals. That's it. U r not going to eat 100g protein twice daily, aren't u?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night_Wolf View Post
    That is a myth. Your body can absorb more. How much? Depends on million factors.
    Look at it this way, 75 year old granny can absorb same amount as jay cutler? Is ridiculous.

    Why are u bothering about it anyway? If u need like 200g of protein, that is 33g of protein in 6 meals. That's it. U r not going to eat 100g protein twice daily, aren't u?

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    No but I do try to get 80 pre workout and 80 post. Then Get anouther 100 atleast out of 4 meals. I was shooting for 1.5g per lb of weight. I ask because if that was true I would only be getting 170 on average aday instead of near the 270 mark I am aiming for. If it was true I would also be spending double on my protein mix for no reason.

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    Just make sure you reach your goal at the end of the day...dont worry about a certain amount at a meal.

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    Calculate how much protein u need and divide that with number of meals and u r good 2 go.
    80g per meal is too much.

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    i always try to get 50-60 grams

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamma View Post
    i always try to get 50-60 grams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night_Wolf View Post
    That is a myth. Your body can absorb more. How much? Depends on million factors.
    Look at it this way, 75 year old granny can absorb same amount as jay cutler? Is ridiculous.
    You might want to do some math and re-examine your biology books related to protein absorption in the intestine. There is indeed a limit to how much protein you can absorb. And believe it or not, Jay can probably only absorb about 50% more than the granny. On a good day.

    More than about 250 grams a day is a waste. But don't trust my word, do a Google search and some simple math. Whey is a fast absorbing protein, so hit Google to see how fast whey is absorbed, in grams per hour. There are 24 hours in a day. Do the math.

    As for the 35 grams per meal, I explained the rationale in this post: Protein absorption meal frequency question

    In a nutshell, only the first half of your intestine really absorbs protein, and depending on how fast your stomach empties, your meal might not spend enough time in that part of your intestine for all the protein to be absorbed.

    Also, more than about a gram per pound of body mass (assuming you're not fat) is a waste. Think about it. If all that protein went to building muscle, and muscle is about 25% protein, then 120 grams of protein would equal a pound of muscle. And I think you'll agree that no one gains a pound of muscle a day.

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    Dude you r forgeting hormones...

    This is how much u can gain daily:
    Multiply your weight in pounds by 1.818 (=... grams). That is your potential daily mass gain. Yeah.

    U just need to control your hormones - suppres cortisol, increase anabolism and increase metabolism.

    One more thing, 1g per 1lb is maybe for natural guy with average genetics. What about natural freak mesomorph? What about freak mesomorph on test, tren, gh, slin, igf-1?

    My 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThreeGigs View Post
    You might want to do some math and re-examine your biology books related to protein absorption in the intestine. There is indeed a limit to how much protein you can absorb. And believe it or not, Jay can probably only absorb about 50% more than the granny. On a good day.

    More than about 250 grams a day is a waste. But don't trust my word, do a Google search and some simple math. Whey is a fast absorbing protein, so hit Google to see how fast whey is absorbed, in grams per hour. There are 24 hours in a day. Do the math.

    As for the 35 grams per meal, I explained the rationale in this post: Protein absorption meal frequency question

    In a nutshell, only the first half of your intestine really absorbs protein, and depending on how fast your stomach empties, your meal might not spend enough time in that part of your intestine for all the protein to be absorbed.

    Also, more than about a gram per pound of body mass (assuming you're not fat) is a waste. Think about it. If all that protein went to building muscle, and muscle is about 25% protein, then 120 grams of protein would equal a pound of muscle. And I think you'll agree that no one gains a pound of muscle a day.
    Wow thanks bro this was exactly what I was looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night_Wolf View Post
    Dude you r forgeting hormones...

    This is how much u can gain daily:
    Multiply your weight in pounds by 1.818 (=... grams). That is your potential daily mass gain. Yeah.

    U just need to control your hormones - suppres cortisol, increase anabolism and increase metabolism.

    One more thing, 1g per 1lb is maybe for natural guy with average genetics. What about natural freak mesomorph? What about freak mesomorph on test, tren, gh, slin, igf-1?

    My 2 cents.
    thanks man this helps alot!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night_Wolf View Post
    Dude you r forgeting hormones...
    Um no, I'm not. Hormones won't help you absorb protein from your intestine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Night_Wolf View Post
    This is how much u can gain daily:
    Multiply your weight in pounds by 1.818 (=... grams). That is your potential daily mass gain. Yeah.
    I think your reading comprehension skills need improvement. The only references to 1.818 I found aren't talking about gains. It's how many grams of protein per pound of lean body mass others are recommending.

    Quote Originally Posted by Night_Wolf View Post
    U just need to control your hormones - suppres cortisol, increase anabolism and increase metabolism.
    Again, hormones don't get protein from your intestine into your bloodstream.

    Quote Originally Posted by Night_Wolf View Post
    One more thing, 1g per 1lb is maybe for natural guy with average genetics. What about natural freak mesomorph? What about freak mesomorph on test, tren, gh, slin, igf-1?
    And again, hormones don't matter. The *ONLY* thing that affects intestinal protein absorption is intestinal length, which is directly related to a person's height.

    According to what you said above, a 180lb guy supposedly could gain 11 to 12 ounces of muscle *per day*. So why after 12 weeks on a cycle doesn't that 180 lb guy weigh 240? Did you even bother to do any of the simple math needed to sanity-check your numbers? Did you Google how fast whey is absorbed? The supplement companies all pretty much agree that it's 10 grams an hour, and there are 24 hours in a day, so unless you know of a faster protein than everyone else, I'd say that the most an average guy is going to absorb is 240 grams (ok, so Andre the Giant might be able to absorb 350, the granny maybe 180) and THAT is if he gets up in the middle of the night for a whey shake.

    Use your head, man.

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