Thread: Bulking diet stuck

Originally Posted by rezkon

My diet seems to be stuck I'm currently bulking but as a hardgainer to gain weight I need to eat alot
I've been trying 6-8 meals mainly 800gs of chicken breast and pastas I seem stuck :/

Learing New Things Every Day

Well, you now know what doesnt' work.

Information

Without more information, it hard to know what to tell you.

Doctor Analogy

Were back to going to a doctor and telling him your sick. It hard for him to help you without knowing what "I'm sick" means.

Kenny Croxdale

ok ill be more accurate im currently 76.6kgs i eat like this
morning - 6 eggs 4 whole eggs the rest is whites
sometimes oats.
then
Gym
Then post workout protein
400G of chicken breast and around.. 100g's of brown rice
same again in 3 hours.
then sometimes.. pasta or vitacrackers or that.. im over my calorie intake diet but i cant really gain anymore.. is it me needing too eat more or...sometimes
and also if anyone can say a good weight gainer not on with less then 21 servings as my last one with 19...is gone.

Going along with what's already been posted, it's difficult to give specific help if you don't give more information.

6 meals a day with chicken breast is a good start. But obviously, if you aren't growing it's not enough calories for you.

Easiest solution is to eat what you are eating now and adding a gallon of milk a day to it. There's another 2400 calories for you. Most likely this is too much but again, without specifics...

Another option is to add beef to some of those meals instead of chicken. Beef, to me, is a better bulking option because it gives you your calories, your protein, your fat, it has much more calories for the same volume of food eaten...and it doesn't taste like chicken. Whole eggs are another good thing to add.

Helpful information would be:
Height
Weight
BF% or LBM
If you don't know BF%...post your neck girth and abdominal girth if you are male...neck, waist, and hips if you are female.

Try this to start with:

Meal 1: 4 whole eggs, 2 slices ham, 1 slice cheese

Meal 2: 8 ounces beef, potato

Meal 3: 8 ounces beef, potato

There's over 2700 calories right there in 3 meals. Not enough? Add a 16 ounce glass of milk to two of these and you've got another 600 calories bringing you up to 3100 for the day.

Still not enough? Repeat any one of these three meals for a 4th meal. Just don't increase calories too fast or you'll end up overeating and getting fat.

Honestly, there aren't many hard gainers out there...but there are a lot of undereaters. Are you actually eating as much as you think you are? Many of us don't if we aren't careful.

Originally Posted by rezkon

ok ill be more accurate im currently 76.6kgs i eat like this
morning - 6 eggs 4 whole eggs the rest is whites
sometimes oats.
then
Gym
Then post workout protein
400G of chicken breast and around.. 100g's of brown rice
same again in 3 hours.
then sometimes.. pasta or vitacrackers or that.. im over my calorie intake diet but i cant really gain anymore.. is it me needing too eat more or...sometimes
and also if anyone can say a good weight gainer not on with less then 21 servings as my last one with 19...is gone.

If you want to grow, there can be no "sometimes oats" or "sometimes pasta". You eat it or you don't, but you can't count on "sometimes" to grow. Do as .V. said, and add some peanut butter, almonds, some tuna sandwiches here and there, salmon is good too. Try to keep your calorie intake in surplus everyday not just sometimes. Keep eating and you'll grow

just ate a massive cheat meal
2X ribs, 1X pizza 1XCake 1XChicken prama LOOOL

Originally Posted by .V.

Try this to start with:

Meal 1: 4 whole eggs, 2 slices ham, 1 slice cheese

Meal 2: 8 ounces beef, potato

Meal 3: 8 ounces beef, potato

There's over 2700 calories right there in 3 meals. Not enough? Add a 16 ounce glass of milk to two of these and you've got another 600 calories bringing you up to 3100 for the day.

Still not enough? Repeat any one of these three meals for a 4th meal. Just don't increase calories too fast or you'll end up overeating and getting fat.

Honestly, there aren't many hard gainers out there...but there are a lot of undereaters. Are you actually eating as much as you think you are? Many of us don't if we aren't careful.

would switching to sweet potato help or no and would adding idk couple of slices of wholegrain bread be helpful towards my goals?

Working this out my bmr is 1787.5
bulking would be around 2144.46
would 30/50/20 split help or...to much fats?. (high carbs)
Protein - 153 .
Fats- 40
Carbs- 698
Seem correct to all?. workout i was getting 250 grams of protein and 100 of carbs :\

Originally Posted by .V.

Going along with what's already been posted, it's difficult to give specific help if you don't give more information.

6 meals a day with chicken breast is a good start. But obviously, if you aren't growing it's not enough calories for you.

6 Breast A Day?

If you going to eat chicken, eat the dark meat. It has more fat. Thus, more calories.

Dark Meat Nutrients

Not only that but dark meat contains more nutrients.

"Dark meats tend to contain more zinc, riboflavin, niacin, thiamin, vitamins B6 and B12, amino acids, iron than white meat. Dark beef meat contains about 11 times more zinc than tuna, and about 3 times as much iron than raw spinach. Chicken dark meat contain vitamins A, K, B6, B12, niacin, folate, pantothenic acid, minerals as selenium, phosphorus and zinc.

Even the fats in most of the dark meats have healthy parts. They contain Omega-3, and Omega-6 fatty acids, and other ‘healthy’ fats. Dark Meat vs White Meat: What's the Difference?

Originally Posted by .V.

Easiest solution is to eat what you are eating now and adding a gallon of milk a day to it. There's another 2400 calories for you. Most likely this is too much but again, without specifics...

Milk For Mass

Milk is definitely a food that increased muscle mass.

We covered that in:

Bodybuilding and milk rezkon

Milk is an insulinogenic food. Insulin is a very anabolic hormone, if not the most anabolic hormone there is.

http://ifitandhealthy.com/how-to-inc...terone-levels/

"The Testosterone Diet explains that while many anabolic hormones in the body influence muscle growth – growth hormone and insulin come to mind – testosterone is the hands-down most important."

Increasing Testosterone With Carbs

Research indicates that higher levels of testosterone are produced with higher carb to protein intake.

"Eat plenty of carbs. A higher ratio of carbs-to-protein – somewhere around 2:1 is best – results in higher testosterone levels. Shoot for at least 2 grams of carbs per pound of bodyweight."

Inverted Relationship

Research also indicates the reverse occurs. When higher protein and lower carbohydrates are consumed, testosterone levels drop.

More Than Calories

Thus, you choice of macronutrients is just as important as you caloric intake.

Originally Posted by .V.

Another option is to add beef to some of those meals instead of chicken. Beef, to me, is a better bulking option because it gives you your calories, your protein, your fat, it has much more calories for the same volume of food eaten...and it doesn't taste like chicken. Whole eggs are another good thing to add.

Beef Better Bulking Option

From what I've seen, I too believe that beef is better at building mass.

Whole Eggs

Like V say, eat the WHOLE egg. Don't be throwing away ANY of the yokes.

Calories & Nutritients

The yoke is where the calories and nutrients are.

Kenny Croxdale

there is no way you are going to bulk at 2144 cal day. The bmr is the cals burned for 24 hour at rest in a warm environment. that means at sleep. jack your cals up to atleast 3500 unless you only wieght 120 pounds then go see a doctor. Eat more food.. any food.. you will gain

Originally Posted by rezkon

Working this out my bmr is 1787.5

BMR

BMR measurements are absurd. BMR measurements are like the quizzes you take that tell you how long your going to live...NO one knows.

Three Day Recall

What you need to do is average the calories you consume by counting them for three days.

Addition

Then add at least 500 kcal a day to your diet.

Originally Posted by rezkon

bulking would be around 2144.46

Gym66 Called It

"There is no way you are going to bulk at 2144 cal day."

Originally Posted by rezkon

would 30/50/20 split help or...to much fats?. (high carbs)
Protein - 153 .
Fats- 40
Carbs- 698

Low Fat = Low Testosterone

Research indicates that low fat intake decreases testosterone levels.

That means that 40 grams a day is a poor choice.

Other Contributing Fators To Gaining Mass

Diet is the primary key to gaining weight but training and rest also come into play, as you know.

In a nut shell that means...

The Three B's

1) Eat BIG

2) Lift BIG

3) Rest BIG

Kenny Croxdale

Ok so in the info everyone has shown I need more dark meat I'll be switching my 9 month hate love relo with chicken for beef and milk and carbs is a weight gainer(aswell) worth it for me or no food is best source?

^^^ wtf I do not think you listen. eat 7 meals a day with 500 cals each. 250 gr protein 500 carbs and 100-150 gr of fat ed woulf be a good start. use this to get your macro. Nutrition facts, calories in food, labels, nutritional information and analysis – NutritionData.com