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    A little advice goes along way.

    Hello, I guess ill start out with my name and why i am on here. My name is Billy and im 21 years old. I love weight lifting and i want some more. As of right now im the biggest and strongest iv ever been. I just completed my first cycle of Tren and test as of 2 days ago. I gained about 20 lbs in 6 weeks. I gained about 120 lbs on my bench in that time and also my arms grew an inch and a half. I put on alot of bulk and for my off cycle i still want to bulk up. Im 199 lbs atm and id like to add 40 more lbs soon. But i wanna cut up on my next cycle in 8 weeks. I need some help making a new workout scheduled and also maybe some tips on what to eat?

    My diet as consisted of

    Mornings- Eggs, Chicken, Oatmeal, and peanut toast. i also juice fruit and veggies.
    2 hours later a shake.

    Lunch-2 Hambergers and fri's, Or a sandwich.
    2 hours later a shake

    2 hours later i shake agin when i get home/ before i workout.

    I eat 2 Oreo cookies before i workout.

    workout for 1-3 hours.

    Dinner, Chicken and rice. Or chicken and eggs. or hamburgers.

    Is this a good diet for beefing up? or what can i do to make it better?

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    workout for 1-3 hours?
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    yeah some days take me longer then others...Just depends on what muscle groups im working that day,

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    I think 3 hours is too much for workout. between 1-1.5 hours should be ideal

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    I dont know how.. lmao.. I do 3 work outs per muscle and 4 sets of each 3. and i ussually take 2-3 minute breaks between each set... Maybe i should do muscle groups that dont work eachother on the same days? Like mondays ill do chest and tri's because they work together... so instead i should maybe try chest and biceps? and on tuesday do maybe back and tri's? something like that?

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    Hey there - good to see the young ones tearing it up.
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    1. FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal - kindly drop in there, start a free account, enter your food and report back with the grams protein, carb, fat, and total calories (ignore percentages, just give me grams and calories for the whole day).
    2. write up, in detail, your current lifting programme and a ballpark on where you figure your bodyfat is.

    I'll add that 21's a little young to be running gear, but you're already doing it so let's make sure you get the most out of what you do. Welcome to the board.
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    I'm assuming your currently using your PCT? you should have your diet and training dialed in to help keep your gains.

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    Yeah im takeing 1/2 a cc of l-fem and l-clo everyday. to keep my estrogen lvls low and help my natural test come back. and other then that my diet stays the same pretty much... Or should i be doing something different?
    I also need to know if it'd be better for me to just train each muscle group only once a week? My friend is HUGE. hes 22 years old and got 20 inch arms. and cut the to the teeth... why he don't do magazines or something i haven't a clue. but he said i should try just one muscle group a day? and that he thinks im over training?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saylumjoe View Post
    Yeah im takeing 1/2 a cc of l-fem and l-clo everyday. to keep my estrogen lvls low and help my natural test come back. and other then that my diet stays the same pretty much... Or should i be doing something different?
    I also need to know if it'd be better for me to just train each muscle group only once a week? My friend is HUGE. hes 22 years old and got 20 inch arms. and cut the to the teeth... why he don't do magazines or something i haven't a clue. but he said i should try just one muscle group a day? and that he thinks im over training?
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    Im sighning up for it right now Built just a few mins.

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    Fat = 283 grams
    Protein = 316 grams
    Carbs = 228
    calories= 4700

    But i also take about 3-4 protein shakes a day. so at 25 grams x 3 = 75-100 extra grams of protein witch is about what i need for my body weight. Correct?
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    Hey awesome. Okay I don't know what you weigh.
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    Im at about 195-200 pounds. 5'11 and im prolly at about 14% body fat? Not 100 percent sure tho.

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    Okay cool. You're probably carrying about 170 lbs, so protein should be in the 250-300g range. Fats no lower than 100g.

    Including your shakes, what macros are you running, Saylumjoe?
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    macro? Whats that?

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    [QUOTE=Saylumjoe;2512717]macro? Whats that? [/QUOTE

    proteins, Carbs, Fats and total calorie intake

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    I just put it a few posts up.

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    Built's asking for your total amount of macros including your shakes.

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    may i ask what your pct looks like which im assuming your on right now?

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    Fat = 400 grams
    Protein = 390 grams
    Carbs = 237
    calories= 5100


    And yes i am on a pst. all i use is l-fem and l-clo. and also milk thistle, for my liver.

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    Protein's too high - it'll feel too filling, and make it too hard to get in the calories. Raise your carbs, drop your protein to about 300-350g. Up your fats if you need to get in the calories and carbs are filling you up too much. I highly recommend white rice for the carbs - white rice is the right kind of carb (glucose polymer), cooks fast and won't fill you up.
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    A little more carbs, I'd say. Drop those oreos or some of the fries, get in a better source of carbs.
    What was your cycle like? How much body fat did you gain?
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    Id say i didnt gain to much body fat to even tell really.. I walk a shit ton and lift stuff all day long so that prolly kept me from gaining alot of body fat. But i think i actually lost body fat while on cycle. and i take the 2 oroes to spike my insulin levels before i workout.. and someone also told me to east some gummy bears after a workout because the good carbs or something like that after a workout. im not to sure... wasn't paying alot of attention.

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