Thread: 9 Things You Should Never Eat Or Drink After 9 PM

Good read, I dont think I concur with the milk or the meat though!

No. What matters is total calories eaten during the day, not when you injest them. BB.com is not a reliable source of information.

Nope. Lot of common misconceptions in that article. Not to mention, milk doesn't contain THAT much sugar, chocolate doesn't contain THAT much caffeine, spicy food won't keep you up at night, and the diuretic effect of celery is very very minor. The real take home message of that article should be don't go to bed with a very full stomach and avoid stimulants before bed.

Stupid article.

Originally Posted by MDR

No. What matters is total calories eaten during the day, not when you injest them.

Kinda wrong there bro. Total calories is less important than the sources of those calories. Timing of carb intake is relevant...ie: around physical activity is preferred over a sedentary state.

Originally Posted by MDR

BB.com is not a reliable source of information.

True.

Agreed, although it is calories in and calories out, if you workout at 7AM in the morning, it's better to eat right after your workout than 12 hours later.

Right, because after 9pm people turn into werewolves if the moon is out. Like 9pm is a magical time zone or something. After reading number1, i pretty much goddam decided that credibility was a joke. Maybe I'll go back when I have time to kid myself or I'm feeling down and want a good laugh. Just skimming through I'm fucking laughing. But at least the template/backdrop/ and graphics make it look like they are an expert. 'Don't eat celery after 9pm, you might need to piss'.... the fuck? Don't eat pizza, have a few hard boiled eggs...but don't eat 8 oz of chicken! What if i don't want eggs? 20grams of protein and 200 calories difference might keep you up at night. Raise your hand if you've ever lost sleep from bad digestion from eating too much chicken at night.....

Originally Posted by TooOld

Stupid article.



Kinda wrong there bro. Total calories is less important than the sources of those calories. Timing of carb intake is relevant...ie: around physical activity is preferred over a sedentary state.

Why are you so caught up on the carb intake? It's not that big of a deal unless you're planning a show or something. I might go two days with no physical activity...what do I do then, automatically eat low/no carbs because I'm not active? One can lose fat eating mcdonalds everyday.

Fat loss or fat gain is not a 24 hour cycle. It's an accumulative process. Over the course of a week, if your numbers are good, you'll lose weight/fat...barring a disease or malfunction.

I totally agree on all these 9 things.

Originally Posted by Merkaba

Why are you so caught up on the carb intake? It's not that big of a deal unless you're planning a show or something. I might go two days with no physical activity...what do I do then, automatically eat low/no carbs because I'm not active? One can lose fat eating mcdonalds everyday.

Sassy recommended carbs around training so is she wrong?
You mods should get your heads together and quit giving out conflicting information. BTW my money is on what she says.

Originally Posted by Merkaba

One can lose fat eating mcdonalds everyday.

Your general health could go right along with the fat depending on what you are eating at McDonalds. Again we come back to food selection.

Originally Posted by Merkaba

Fat loss or fat gain is not a 24 hour cycle. It's an accumulative process. Over the course of a week, if your numbers are good, you'll lose weight/fat...barring a disease or malfunction.

"Numbers" as in Calories or Macros? Again we comes back to food selection: if you eat X calories in predominantly protein and fat diet you will not lose or gain the same body composition as consuming X calories in a predominantly carb rich diet and certainly not get the same nutrient benefits.

The rest is basic stuff regarding it being an accumulative process.

Holy cow, does everything wake this girl up or what? Pasta might wake you up, cdelery might wake you up, fruit juice might wake you up, spicy food might not let you fall asleep, chinese food might not let you fall asleep...

Jesus, does she *ever* get a good night's sleep? I can eat any of the above, no problem, and sleep like a log.

As for the carb timing argument...
Yeah, carbs around training are preferred, *however* if I have 500 grams of carbs programmed for the day, do you really think I can or should eat them *all* right after training? Merkaba and Sassy are *both* right, there are times when it's good to eat carbs, but the rest of your carbs can be consumed anytime.

"Total calories is less important than the sources of those calories."
Dude, that is so wrong I don't know where to begin. Are you saying 6000 calories a day is ok, if it's all natural, organically grown food? Sorry, but when it comes to gaining or losing weight, it's calories first, source a far distant second.

some yes some not i think mil would be so bad if i drink it at night especially after work out .at the gym .

I eat all that before bed haha

Originally Posted by ThreeGigs

"Total calories is less important than the sources of those calories."
Dude, that is so wrong I don't know where to begin. Are you saying 6000 calories a day is ok, if it's all natural, organically grown food? Sorry, but when it comes to gaining or losing weight, it's calories first, source a far distant second.

No, you are using a ridiculous statement that doesn't pertain to the average person trying to lose body fat to make a point. How can one possibly comfortably consume 6000 calories with low carbs, no sugars, or refined foods?

My point is with calories being consumed in equal amount, changing macros greatly determines the amount of fat storage.
For example just consuming larger amounts of protein in properly timed intervals, keeping calories equal in any other macro configuration and with adequate leucine threshold (2.5 to 3grms) which would be equal to about 30 grams of whey stimulates muscle protein synthesis which will deplete ATP storage aka use energy aka burn calories.
Source: I have no written source. I heard Layne Norton speak about it at a lecture in a podcast but I'm sure it's out there if it were to be googled and you looked hard enough through all of the garbage posted on forums and such.
Simple calorie reduction (aka "it's all about calories" aka "calories in calories out") doesn't work and is only at best a short term solution to fat loss.

Dr Matt Lalounde has a great web cast lecture coming up soon covering this topic. If i can find the link I'll post it but doubtfull anyone but me will spend the $150 to actually listen to it.

Originally Posted by ThreeGigs

As for the carb timing argument...
Yeah, carbs around training are preferred, *however* if I have 500 grams of carbs programmed for the day, do you really think I can or should eat them *all* right after training? Merkaba and Sassy are *both* right, there are times when it's good to eat carbs, but the rest of your carbs can be consumed anytime.

I'd agree with that. It's called carb tolerance and it's varies for each individual so what works for one won't work for another.
I did say "should" which doesn't mean "must".

Originally Posted by MDR

No. What matters is total calories eaten during the day, not when you injest them. BB.com is not a reliable source of information.

x2

I used to ride that source of calories wagon for years. I was wrong for a long time. It IS calories in vs calories out. Balancing carbs/proteins/and fats can make that particular job harder or easier on you.....but thats only important insofar as how it affects your ability to manipulate your calories in vs calories out.

Originally Posted by hunter121

What matters is total calories eaten during the day, not when you injest them.

I'm not sure I agree with this either. What type of foods and when I eat them makes a huge difference to me when it comes to my training schedule and how well I do.