Post w/o Shake

Freeman · 02-13-2003, 07:36 PM

Hey guys, do any of you use MRP packets for post w/o, or do you just use regular powder protein, like 2 scoops? I got some VPX Micellean today - thanks David! - and I'm wondering if I should use it after my workout or save it for later in the day. And if for later in the day, should i had cream or flax to it. I usually do w/ regular whey, but what about the MRPs? Thanks!

**Jodi** · 02-13-2003, 08:57 PM

Why spend the money on MRP's anyway. Isn't Whey, fat & a slow burning carb source as good as an MRP?

Whey
Cream
Strwberries

KataMaStEr · 02-13-2003, 09:12 PM

I started buying MRP’s in packets for school, Yeah I cud spend a lot less taking the powder from home but it’s a lot more convenient for me. I take it before practice cuz it’s a damn long practice without anything on the stomach for about 4 hours. And I have no blender at school to make my own MRP, all I have to do is open the packet and shake…

Buy the way I buy MuscleLink Muscle Meals, it’s the best damn protein I have ever had, I cud drink those things just for fun…

Freeman · 02-14-2003, 05:13 AM

Yeah, it's just a convenience factor for me, plus MRPs taste bettr, and I needed a change! They're typically thicker and smoother. I've heard muscle meals are good. How much do you pay for a 20pack box?

I just bought labrada chocolate PB

kuso · 02-14-2003, 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jodi
Why spend the money on MRP's anyway. Isn't Whey, fat & a slow burning carb source as good as an MRP?

Not always...you could still miss a lot of the vitamines etc from a meal replacement, plus there is some thought that fat will actually reduce the amount of protien digested, not just slow it down ( I believe LAM was a firm believer in this ).

But MRP`s for pwo aren`t the best choice imo

kuso · 02-14-2003, 05:25 AM

Freeman, let me know what you think of the PB!!

Freeman · 02-14-2003, 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kuso
Freeman, let me know what you think of the PB!!

Had one yesterday. I really liked it. The chocolate is good too. When I go on a cut maybe I'll try a variety box of the low car MRPs. They have mint chocolate chip (my fave. ice cream

) and chocolate mocha, among others...sounds pretty good..

kuso · 02-14-2003, 05:33 AM

Um...I know....I mentioned the mocha to you in another thread last week

I liked the PB too, just thought it was a touch chalky is all.

Freeman · 02-14-2003, 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kuso
Um...I know....I mentioned the mocha to you in another thread last week

I liked the PB too, just thought it was a touch chalky is all.

Hmmm, chalky? I didn't notice it. I added some ice to mine, maybe that helped? Oh, and do not buy Dorian's! I got the chocolate and it's gross!

Have you had labrada's mint chocolate chip?

kuso · 02-14-2003, 05:43 AM

Yep had the mint choc, was very nice....but I wouldn@t buy 20 of them,,,the variety pack is enough.

The ice may have helped with the chalkiness I guess, I aways mixed em in a shaker so no ice.

I`ll pass on the Dorians then man

Last time I listened to someone and bought the MetRX ones I ended up puking and having the runs for the next several hours

Freeman · 02-14-2003, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kuso
Yep had the mint choc, was very nice....but I wouldn@t buy 20 of them,,,the variety pack is enough.

The ice may have helped with the chalkiness I guess, I aways mixed em in a shaker so no ice.

I`ll pass on the Dorians then man

Last time I listened to someone and bought the MetRX ones I ended up puking and having the runs for the next several hours

Yeah dorian's is NOT good.

I always use one of those nifty little handheld blenders...it works great and is easy to clean up, rather than a big typical blender. And it does a decent job of crushing ice cubes too.

kuso · 02-14-2003, 05:55 AM

I wanna get myself one of those, but they don@t sell them here

Do they run on batteries?? I might pic one up when I`m on holidays next time if they do

Freeman · 02-14-2003, 06:13 AM

NO, they don't run on batteries. You have to plug them in..

Here check it out:

http://www.braun.com/na/products/foo...ers/mr400.html

This is the one I have.

kuso · 02-14-2003, 06:45 AM

Got it man, thanks....that wont work over here though

Freeman · 02-14-2003, 08:41 AM

Oh, cuz of the power outlet differences??

We need universal outlets! maybe you could get an adapter?

KataMaStEr · 02-14-2003, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeman1504
How much do you pay for a 20pack box?

$ 33.99 At dpsnutrition

KataMaStEr · 02-14-2003, 09:32 AM

Check this blender out, it uses batteries and it can also be used with a wall power adaptor which they sell separately at the same website… But it’s currently out of stock

http://bodybuilding.com/store/ontel/mixer.html

Freeman · 02-14-2003, 10:02 AM

Damn, that thing does look awesome. Probably not good at crushing ice or frozen fruits, but still great for on the go..at school etc.!!

Thanks bro!

KataMaStEr · 02-14-2003, 10:05 AM

For the price it might not be the best thing at crushing ice etc. But for those supplements that don’t blend well in a shake bottle I think it will do the job

kuso · 02-14-2003, 10:15 AM

KM, thanks man, but I`d never in my life order from BB again!

**gopro** · 02-20-2003, 07:17 AM

To answer your original question...don't use an MRP after training. MRPs like Micellean contain slow acting proteins that are not optimal after training. After you workout you want whey protein...VP2 by AST is the best IMO...and a high GI carb...dextrose, white rice, rice cakes, white potato. You can also use a post workout drink like Recover X by Musclelink. Either way, shoot for 40 grams of protein and about 80 g of carbs.

DaMayor · 02-20-2003, 07:30 AM

GoPro, hypothetically, if the goal is to lose a substantial amount of BF, while preserving lean mass, would it be advisable to go with a pro-drink with that many carbs? In other words, what happens if one doesn't take in the hi GI carbs?

**gopro** · 02-20-2003, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DaMayor
GoPro, hypothetically, if the goal is to lose a substantial amount of BF, while preserving lean mass, would it be advisable to go with a pro-drink with that many carbs? In other words, what happens if one doesn't take in the hi GI carbs?

If trying to lose bodyfat you should still use that post workout formula. However, that meal should be the one which contains the majority of your daily carbs. PW nutrition is the most important meal for the refeeding and rebuilding of your lean muscle. It is both an anticatabolic and anabolic opportunity that you get only after training. Your body is metablically set up at this time to shuttle carbs into muscle cells, not adipose tissue.

When I prepare for a show I will keep this meal in my plan up to a week before show day. My only other daily carbs will be with breakfast.

DaMayor · 02-20-2003, 09:55 AM

I gotcha. Much thanks!

**gopro** · 02-20-2003, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DaMayor
I gotcha. Much thanks!

Always welcome!

02-13-2003, 07:36 PM	#1
Freeman Bearded Attacker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,648 Photos: 8	Post w/o Shake Hey guys, do any of you use MRP packets for post w/o, or do you just use regular powder protein, like 2 scoops? I got some VPX Micellean today - thanks David! - and I'm wondering if I should use it after my workout or save it for later in the day. And if for later in the day, should i had cream or flax to it. I usually do w/ regular whey, but what about the MRPs? Thanks!
	www.kingsburymusic.net

02-13-2003, 08:57 PM	#2
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	Why spend the money on MRP's anyway. Isn't Whey, fat & a slow burning carb source as good as an MRP? Whey Cream Strwberries
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02-14-2003, 05:13 AM	#4
Freeman Bearded Attacker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,648 Photos: 8	Yeah, it's just a convenience factor for me, plus MRPs taste bettr, and I needed a change! They're typically thicker and smoother. I've heard muscle meals are good. How much do you pay for a 20pack box? I just bought labrada chocolate PB
	www.kingsburymusic.net

02-14-2003, 06:13 AM	#13
Freeman Bearded Attacker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,648 Photos: 8	NO, they don't run on batteries. You have to plug them in.. Here check it out: http://www.braun.com/na/products/foo...ers/mr400.html This is the one I have.
	www.kingsburymusic.net

02-14-2003, 08:41 AM	#15
Freeman Bearded Attacker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,648 Photos: 8	Oh, cuz of the power outlet differences?? We need universal outlets! maybe you could get an adapter?
	www.kingsburymusic.net

02-13-2003, 09:12 PM	#3
KataMaStEr -==♠==- Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 1,960 Photos: 6	I started buying MRP’s in packets for school, Yeah I cud spend a lot less taking the powder from home but it’s a lot more convenient for me. I take it before practice cuz it’s a damn long practice without anything on the stomach for about 4 hours. And I have no blender at school to make my own MRP, all I have to do is open the packet and shake… Buy the way I buy MuscleLink Muscle Meals, it’s the best damn protein I have ever had, I cud drink those things just for fun…

02-14-2003, 05:25 AM	#6
kuso Um......get rooted! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: aka ( o Y o ) Posts: 15,033 Photos: 15	Freeman, let me know what you think of the PB!!

02-14-2003, 05:33 AM	#8
kuso Um......get rooted! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: aka ( o Y o ) Posts: 15,033 Photos: 15	Um...I know....I mentioned the mocha to you in another thread last week I liked the PB too, just thought it was a touch chalky is all.

02-14-2003, 05:43 AM	#10
kuso Um......get rooted! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: aka ( o Y o ) Posts: 15,033 Photos: 15	Yep had the mint choc, was very nice....but I wouldn@t buy 20 of them,,,the variety pack is enough. The ice may have helped with the chalkiness I guess, I aways mixed em in a shaker so no ice. I`ll pass on the Dorians then man Last time I listened to someone and bought the MetRX ones I ended up puking and having the runs for the next several hours

02-14-2003, 05:55 AM	#12
kuso Um......get rooted! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: aka ( o Y o ) Posts: 15,033 Photos: 15	I wanna get myself one of those, but they don@t sell them here Do they run on batteries?? I might pic one up when I`m on holidays next time if they do

02-14-2003, 06:45 AM	#14
kuso Um......get rooted! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: aka ( o Y o ) Posts: 15,033 Photos: 15	Got it man, thanks....that wont work over here though

02-14-2003, 09:32 AM	#17
KataMaStEr -==♠==- Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 1,960 Photos: 6	Check this blender out, it uses batteries and it can also be used with a wall power adaptor which they sell separately at the same website… But it’s currently out of stock http://bodybuilding.com/store/ontel/mixer.html

02-14-2003, 10:02 AM	#18
Freeman Bearded Attacker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,648 Photos: 8	Damn, that thing does look awesome. Probably not good at crushing ice or frozen fruits, but still great for on the go..at school etc.!! Thanks bro!
	www.kingsburymusic.net

02-14-2003, 10:05 AM	#19
KataMaStEr -==♠==- Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 1,960 Photos: 6	For the price it might not be the best thing at crushing ice etc. But for those supplements that don’t blend well in a shake bottle I think it will do the job

02-14-2003, 10:15 AM	#20
kuso Um......get rooted! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: aka ( o Y o ) Posts: 15,033 Photos: 15	KM, thanks man, but I`d never in my life order from BB again!

02-20-2003, 07:17 AM	#21
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida Posts: 10,509	To answer your original question...don't use an MRP after training. MRPs like Micellean contain slow acting proteins that are not optimal after training. After you workout you want whey protein...VP2 by AST is the best IMO...and a high GI carb...dextrose, white rice, rice cakes, white potato. You can also use a post workout drink like Recover X by Musclelink. Either way, shoot for 40 grams of protein and about 80 g of carbs.
	Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. VPX Sponsored Athlete/Board Rep www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

02-20-2003, 07:30 AM	#22
DaMayor On a Perpetual Bulk Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Posts: 6,144	GoPro, hypothetically, if the goal is to lose a substantial amount of BF, while preserving lean mass, would it be advisable to go with a pro-drink with that many carbs? In other words, what happens if one doesn't take in the hi GI carbs?

02-20-2003, 09:55 AM	#24
DaMayor On a Perpetual Bulk Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Posts: 6,144	I gotcha. Much thanks!

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