Thread: Recomp diet

i personally believe that placing carbs exclusively before workouts (and at no other times) is optimal, it certainly has been for me. I have grown larger and leaned up substantially at the same time.

Interesting, I currently place a majority of my carbs for breakfast and pre/post workout. I'm naturally pretty Carb sensitive so I keep them low

Originally Posted by EATSCHILDREN

Interesting, I currently place a majority of my carbs for breakfast and pre/post workout. I'm naturally pretty Carb sensitive so I keep them low

i used to eat a lot of carbs because i thought they were essential for muscle growth. I just got fat as fuck even though my diet was simple and extremely clean.

carbs are essentially energy right? they either go toward being stored as muscle glycogen or fat IIRC, so why would you need them post workout? If im not mistaken, you definitely do not use up all of your preworkout carbs during your workout unless you are an endurance athelete, and if you eat carbs 1.5-2 hours pre-workout, your glycogen levels are at an optimal level for peak performance, again making the consumption of post-workout carbs unnecessary.

I like that train of thought Donkey and it does make sense.

However when I was doing lean gains intermittent fasting the premise behind that was pretty much all your food POST workout. By doing that I lost fat and gained strength. I think there's more than one way to do it, but it depends on body type.

I'll admit I struggle to eat more protein if I drop my carbs right down

Originally Posted by lee111s

I like that train of thought Donkey and it does make sense.

However when I was doing lean gains intermittent fasting the premise behind that was pretty much all your food POST workout. By doing that I lost fat and gained strength. I think there's more than one way to do it, but it depends on body type.

I'll admit I struggle to eat more protein if I drop my carbs right down

there are definitely more ways than the one i mentioned. I just cant bring myself to not eat for numerous hours at a time i would feel extremely sick, i tried once and ended up puking.. (dry-heaving actually).

i believe that carbs should be eaten either preworkout like i suggested, or postworkout like you suggested with leangains..

but never both

Makes sense, I try to keep carbs after noon near non existent for that reason. My post workout carbs are mainly consumed immediately after training for an insulin spike to aid in protein synthesis. Regarding Carb intake while on tren, I've read that they actually fuel the fat burn effect through some sort of thermogenic effect. Anyone experience this? Would it likely be more beneficial to increase Carb intake on tren or go into ketosis?

if you are on gear i think any "post workout insulin spike to aid in protein synthesis" will do more harm than good. Studies indicate that simply consuming protein increases protein synthesis


...and eat sugar.. well, we all know what that does

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey

i personally believe that placing carbs exclusively before workouts (and at no other times) is optimal, it certainly has been for me. I have grown larger and leaned up substantially at the same time.

How many days per week do you do this?

Originally Posted by ontopthegame85

How many days per week do you do this?

everyday, i only eat carbs on lifting days.


I used to eat a ton of carbs like i mentioned before, i feel that doing that made me someone resistant to insulin.. this not only corrects the problem but the loss of calories from cutting out carbs on non-lifting days gives me plenty of space to throw in more protein and high quality fats

The only poblem Im having is my job.Framing houses its pretty physical.

Thanks for the input donkey. I will consider a low Carb diet for my tren cycle in hopes for maximum recomping. With my main Carb intake 2 hours preworkout and lower on non workout days. Luckily cutting carbs is only a minor sacrifice for me. I actually love low Carb dieting I feel best eating a large amount of lean meat with every meal and healthy fats are plentiful in my favorite foods

i would say that the leaner you are, the more carbs you can handle before becoming a fat fuck (dont quote me on that though, simple speculation)

Have you heard of carb backloading? Seems similar to leangains except you eat protein/fats before workout and then smash carbs after. And it's not just rice and pasta, they encourage eating sweets, chocolate, doughnuts and pastries

Works on the premise that while you are insulin sensitive in the am, it's both muscle cells and fat cells that are sensitive. Whereas after workout and in the evening only the muscle cells are really sensitive so the carbs can be utilised.

Sounds completely backwards to everything you know but I know a few people who who've done it with unreal results. Check out this vid -

Hmmmm, I'll have to research that some more

Hey bro, also concern yourself with sugar vs complex, Stay away from sugars and be sure fiber is up to help keep intestines regulated. keep h20 up with the tax the protein will have on liver & kidney.

Good points, simple carbs are the great Satan

I'm running test p and tren a at the moment. As of today I'm going to try Donkey's method of about 120g carbs about 2 hours before workout and just increase my protein and fat macros to make sure I'm getting enough cals in for muscle growth.

Awesome, please update me on your results with this method

I will do bro!

Just had 250g brown rice and a handful of cashew nuts with 150g chicken.

Had 6 eggwhites and 1 yolk scrambled this morning for breakfast and 150g chicken with some mayo at about 11:30.

20g protein shake right after work out then chicken and tuna for the rest of the night!

Sounds pretty damn tasty haha

Question Donkey if you're still looking at this thread...

Do you take in any fats post workout? Like anything I've read it's bad, but other sources say it's fine. I guess it shouldn't matter really...what ya reckon bro?