Thread: **Dr. Atkins anyone??**

Atkins is for old fat chicks man.

If you really want to try keto, try a CKD because if your active (ie lifting weights/doing cardio whatever) you'll need to carb up so you can still train with atleast some intensity in the gym.

Originally posted by Yanick
Atkins is for old fat chicks man.

Excuse me....Boy?

Isn't it time for your Nap?

Look out Yan, you got Damyor all reved up.....lol....you're in for it now.

to the original poster:

Have you read the Atkins book yet? Do you plan on being involved in a weight training program while doing the diet? What kind of results are you looking for or expecting from this? IE are you planning on just using the induction phase as a quick fix fad diet like most people do?

Originally posted by DaMayor
Excuse me....Boy?

Isn't it time for your Nap?

Lol, i knew all the fat chicks would get riled up over that

*finishes plane ticket purchase*
Oh really, heh heh.........I hope you enjoyed the moment..
Now stick to the thread, chunky!

LOL, it's starting to get ugly in here......you guys are brutal

Originally posted by DaMayor
*finishes plane ticket purchase*
Oh really, heh heh.........I hope you enjoyed the moment..
Now stick to the thread, chunky!

Better hope they don't make you pay for two seats on the airplane

So, as I was saying before kindergarten was let out for recess, the Atkins Diet is not an entirely bad plan, just tainted slightly due to overmarketing. Read the book THOROUGHLY, and/or do a search here. Secondly, if you're interested in related, and perhaps more effective diets, do a search for Lyle McDonald, SKD, CKD, etc.
P-Funk, the floor is yours.....keep that other kid outta here.

You could ask him yourself, but he died this morning.

Actually, that has come off horribly.

I apologise.

I've been doing the Atkins diet for over three months now and have lost 48 pounds. During this time, I've also been lifting pretty regularly and have increased my PR's in nearly all my lifts. I don't feel bogged down or "foggy" during my workouts, as some people say is the case. If anything, I've got more energy in the gym. And I never carb up.

I've still got about 40-50 pounds left to go until I reach my goal weight at which time I'll move into the later stages of Atkins and try to maintain that weight while packing on muscle.

I'd recommend giving it a try for a few weeks to see how you do on it.

Originally posted by ClayEdgin
I've been doing the Atkins diet for over three months now and have lost 48 pounds. During this time, I've also been lifting pretty regularly and have increased my PR's in nearly all my lifts. I don't feel bogged down or "foggy" during my workouts, as some people say is the case. If anything, I've got more energy in the gym. And I never carb up.

I've still got about 40-50 pounds left to go until I reach my goal weight at which time I'll move into the later stages of Atkins and try to maintain that weight while packing on muscle.

I'd recommend giving it a try for a few weeks to see how you do on it.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you're an exception.

If you don't mind...can you give me a general outline of your training (frequency, volume, intensity, density) and of your diet (ratio's/cals)?

Originally posted by DaMayor
So, as I was saying before kindergarten was let out for recess, the Atkins Diet is not an entirely bad plan, just tainted slightly due to overmarketing. Read the book THOROUGHLY, and/or do a search here. Secondly, if you're interested in related, and perhaps more effective diets, do a search for Lyle McDonald, SKD, CKD, etc.
P-Funk, the floor is yours.....keep that other kid outta here.

Hey DM, do you mean TKD? I never heard of an SKD.

Standard Ketogenic Diet (otherwise known as the Atkin's diet ).

SKD is like CKD or TKD except you don't carb up/refeed or incorporate any carbs at all other than green veggies.

Basically you stay in Ketosis as long as you want. A cleaner Atkins for the most part.

Sorry TP didn't see your post, must of posted at the same time.

BTW, the SKD will be much more effective, one Leptigen II comes out.

Originally posted by Jodi
Sorry TP didn't see your post, must of posted at the same time.

No problemo. Get my email?

Thank you Jodi, TP.....
I just started seriously reading Lyle's E-book, and there are many similarities between the his '_K-diets' and the Atkins diet. My point was that the Atkins diet was marketed to death causing many serious dietetic practitioners to question its credibility.

Yes there are similarities but I would never do it like Atkins. I don't believe in the processed meats and poor fat choices and such. I would rather my fat sources come from EFA's and keep my proteins lean.

Originally posted by Yanick
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you're an exception.

If you don't mind...can you give me a general outline of your training (frequency, volume, intensity, density) and of your diet (ratio's/cals)?

Actually, I haven't talked to a lifter yet who has had problems doing Atkins while training. I visit a low-carb bulletin board as well as boards like this and have heard good things from people who are lifting. The only bad thing I've heard about Atkins and lifting is that some people experience some weakness and nausea if they just start the diet and lift heavy right away. According to Dr. Atkins', the first couple days while on Induction (the first phase of the Atkins nutritional approach) are kind of a "detoxing" period because your body is changing from burning carbs for energy to burning fat. I experienced those symptoms but they went away by the third day I was doing the diet plan and lifting.

My workouts - I usually lift 2-3 times a week for an average of 60 minutes. A typical workout would have me doing 5 sets of 5 reps in the bench, squat, clean & jerk, shrugs, and some weighted abdominal and oblique work. Nothing too fancy, just lots of simple exercises with heavy weights. (BTW, I've heard that weighted ab work isn't great for building a six pack of abs, but nobody will care about my abs if I can deadlift the front of my car. )

As for my diet, I don't count calories, just carbs. To be honest, I really have no idea what my caloric intake is, but anyone on the Atkins plan who has read Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution will tell you that counting calories isn't as important to weight loss as counting carbs. It's high in protein in fat, so I'm not sacrificing muscle tissue, and I drink 3-5 liters of water a day.

A general note to everyone: even if you're extremely averse to the idea of the Atkins diet, as I was at first, I'd recommend picking up a copy of the book (hell, it's only $8) and at least reading what it has to say. It goes into good depth explaining how your body works and how to get it to work *for* you, rather than you working against it. For an overweight person like me, that was very helpful.

Anyways, this post came out longer than I intended, but I hope I have sufficiently answered your questions.

The only problem I've had with low carb dieting is if I've been drinking caffeine during the day. It tends to stop me getting asleep. I find myself slipping some late night carbs to help me go to sleep easier.

I just cut my carbs down severely and have lost 20lbs in 2 months, but that might have something to do with the fact that i dont eat fast food anymore and that i started working out and lifting heavily 2 months ago.
Nice quote by Arnold BTW DaMayor : )

Originally posted by Newbie
I just cut my carbs down severely and have lost 20lbs in 2 months, but that might have something to do with the fact that i dont eat fast food anymore and that i started working out and lifting heavily 2 months ago.
Nice quote by Arnold BTW DaMayor : )

More than likely, your weight loss came from your diet, not your heavy lifting. Diet is 90% of the game when it comes to weight loss.

Originally posted by bludevil
More than likely, your weight loss came from your diet, not your heavy lifting. Diet is 90% of the game when it comes to weight loss.

But weight lifting doesn't hurt! The more muscle you have the more calories you burn....higher metabolism!

I started doing Atkins back in October. Was 215lbs. I was down to 160 before

I switched over to CKD about a month ago. Now I'm up to about 170-175 and have put on muslce, and lost more fat.
While on Atkins I worked out, and did Karate. Never felt that my diet held me back. Though in the later months of it, I liked to eat a yogurt with about 30g of carbs in it, just before Karate (more of a treat than anything, as I love that kind of yogurt).

Definately give Atkins a try if you want to lose a lot of fat. Muscle can be gained, but slowly. If you want to pack on muscle, then maybe CKD is what you want.

Thanks guys for all your input.

Another concern of mine is cholestrol, does Atkins not clog up your arteries?

Check out www.atkinscenter.com for a more specific answer to your query on cholesterol, but Atkins actually helps lower it.