Thread: Intermittent Fasting

I've been doing it for a few months now. I eat between 1pm and 8pm approximately, depending on how strict I am with my diet. On the weekends, I may stray away from it a bit and overindulge. I really like it for the convenience and the health benefits.

I didn't notice any drop in performance or having any issues maintaining my muscle mass compared to the "eating every 3 hours scam". I will never go back to that torture.

Lost 8 pounds in 5 days. Wtf?? I'm trying to GAIN weight

Your trying to gain weight by fasting? Genius

Originally Posted by Nok

Lost 8 pounds in 5 days. Wtf?? I'm trying to GAIN weight

It's just bloat and water weight/fat I'm sure. Are you on cycle?

Originally Posted by supaman23

It's just bloat and water weight/fat I'm sure. Are you on cycle?

Yeah. I got about 2 weeks left of a 12 week test cycle.

I'm back at my starting weight, but still significantly bigger. Hmmm

Originally Posted by Nok

Yeah. I got about 2 weeks left of a 12 week test cycle.

I'm back at my starting weight, but still significantly bigger. Hmmm

IF works for cutting or bulking. You WILL lose some weight at first but it won't be muscle as long as you are getting in your daily calories.

IF is geared towards losing fat and clean bulking, that's why you will lose some weight at first when you switch from a high carbs all day eating diet.

The only way to know if you are losing muscle is if the weights you lift in the gym are dropping. If they're not, you're good.

Man i panicked and said fuck it. Lol. Im gonna just continue eating like a horse all day until after pct.

After my body has recovered i'll use IF to cut i guess

Originally Posted by supaman23

IF works for cutting or bulking. You WILL lose some weight at first but it won't be muscle as long as you are getting in your daily calories.

IF is geared towards losing fat and clean bulking, that's why you will lose some weight at first when you switch from a high carbs all day eating diet.

The only way to know if you are losing muscle is if the weights you lift in the gym are dropping. If they're not, you're good.

I dont agree at all...Growth doesn't mean strength...I've seen skinny cut dudes curling 50-60lb DB's for reps...and I've seen swole ass dudes curling 30-40lb DB's....not only that I think I'm growing and I have days that are up and down...I dont think muscle fatigue means you're losing size.

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

I dont agree at all...Growth doesn't mean strength...I've seen skinny cut dudes curling 50-60lb DB's for reps...and I've seen swole ass dudes curling 30-40lb DB's....not only that I think I'm growing and I have days that are up and down...I dont think muscle fatigue means you're losing size.

What you explained has nothing to do with what I said.
How does comparing "how much a skinny dude is curling with what a swole dude is curling" has anything to do with someone dropping his PRs??
If you are going up in your lifts, that means that, at least, you are maintaining your muscle mass and not losing it.
And muscle fatigue is related to glycogen storage, not muscle strength. What this means is that if your glycogen stores are depleted, you may not be able to push "the same weight" for "as many reps" as you usally are capable of. So you might only get 5-6 reps instead of 8-10. But this won't affect the maximum weight you can lift for 1-5 reps (which is the strength rep range and not the endurance rep range which is usually 6-8 reps and up)

Originally Posted by Nok

Man i panicked and said fuck it. Lol. Im gonna just continue eating like a horse all day until after pct.

After my body has recovered i'll use IF to cut i guess

It's up to you which diet you wanna follow but know that the mirror don't lie. I actually looked bigger after I dropped 5 pounds when I started IF. Why? Cause I got more seperation between my muscles so it gave the illusion that they are bigger.

Point is, don't rely too much on the scale and go by what you see in the mirror.

Originally Posted by supaman23

It's up to you which diet you wanna follow but know that the mirror don't lie. I actually looked bigger after I dropped 5 pounds when I started IF. Why? Cause I got more seperation between my muscles so it gave the illusion that they are bigger.

Point is, don't rely too much on the scale and go by what you see in the mirror.

I agree 100%. The mirror is the best way for me to judge my progress.

All the scale does is piss me off lol

Originally Posted by supaman23

I've been doing it for a few months now. I eat between 1pm and 8pm approximately, depending on how strict I am with my diet. On the weekends, I may stray away from it a bit and overindulge. I really like it for the convenience and the health benefits.

I didn't notice any drop in performance or having any issues maintaining my muscle mass compared to the "eating every 3 hours scam". I will never go back to that torture.

That seems a bit harsh doesn't it?

There are pros and cons of ANY diet, you have to pick what works best for you as no two individuals are the same.

This isnt really a diet... It's more of an eating regime i think... Right??

Originally Posted by Nok

This isnt really a diet... It's more of an eating regime i think... Right??

You can "call it" whatever you want. Media and society would call it a "diet".

I know guys who swear by it and other who can't stand it, one way or the other what is really "correct"?

Personally, I see how it saves a lot of time with not having to make and eat 6-7 times a day. On the other hand I wonder how does the body possibly process and absorb 200-300g of protein in that time frame?

Originally Posted by XYZ

That seems a bit harsh doesn't it?

There are pros and cons of ANY diet, you have to pick what works best for you as no two individuals are the same.

You are right. I should have been more specific and phrased it as "the eating every 3 hours scam that is being recommended to the average joe and casual BBer".

I am sure that Pro BBers who eat 5000+ kcal per day won't be able to fit all that food in just 6-8 hours window. Plus they need to supplement their Slin shots with food/carbs throughout the day, so IF isn't a viable option for them.

But why I said eating every 3 hours isn't required is because it's not based on any scientific research. We don't go catabolic if we don't eat for a few hours. Eating a big solid meal will continue to feed our body for hours and hours, not just for 2-3 hours etc... Well you get the picture.

Originally Posted by Nok

This isnt really a diet... It's more of an eating regime i think... Right??

Right. It's called a regime or protocol cause it tells you when to eat and when not to eat. It doesn't tell you what or how much to eat.

Originally Posted by supaman23

You are right. I should have been more specific and phrased it as "the eating every 3 hours scam that is being recommended to the average joe and casual BBer".

I am sure that Pro BBers who eat 5000+ kcal per day won't be able to fit all that food in just 6-8 hours window. Plus they need to supplement their Slin shots with food/carbs throughout the day, so IF isn't a viable option for them.

But why I said eating every 3 hours isn't required is because it's not based on any scientific research. We don't go catabolic if we don't eat for a few hours. Eating a big solid meal will continue to feed our body for hours and hours, not just for 2-3 hours etc... Well you get the picture.

Well, I don't know what type of background you have (if any) but someone I hired to do my cutting diet in the past has told me a number of times that eating multiple times a day is a much better option for you.

Seeing that your body needs to work harder (increase in metabolism) everytime you eat for digestion, it seems to make logical sense to me. It also makes sense in the aspect that I do not see how it is possible for your body to absorb and process 200-300g of protein in one small time frame. That would be approx. 40oz. of chicken in one time frame.........no thanks.

Originally Posted by XYZ

Well, I don't know what type of background you have (if any) but someone I hired to do my cutting diet in the past has told me a number of times that eating multiple times a day is a much better option for you.

Seeing that your body needs to work harder (increase in metabolism) everytime you eat for digestion, it seems to make logical sense to me. It also makes sense in the aspect that I do not see how it is possible for your body to absorb and process 200-300g of protein in one small time frame. That would be approx. 40oz. of chicken in one time frame.........no thanks.

My background is that I research all kinds of diets and training programs and try them myself before drawing conclusions.

Like I said in my previous post, I completely agree with you that if you have a lot of food to eat, IF may not be a good "diet" for you.

Additionally, not all diets agree with everyone. Some people might have better results on the traditional diet plans (eating 5-6 meals spread throughout the day).

Absorbtion wise, I feel less bloated and better in every way on IF. I actually had more issues with the regular diet. I can get 150-200g of protein in those 6-8 hours just fine. I can get more if I wanted to.

Regarding the "increase in metabolism everytime you eat" theory (which is the thermogenic effect of food digestion), I read so much about it and everything I read said that there is no clear indication in the studies done about how much it really is (quantify it) and if it is indeed translated into weight/fat loss. If I'm wrong, please show me a study that confirms it cause I haven't found any.

Originally Posted by supaman23

My background is that I research all kinds of diets and training programs and try them myself before drawing conclusions.

Like I said in my previous post, I completely agree with you that if you have a lot of food to eat, IF may not be a good "diet" for you.

Additionally, not all diets agree with everyone. Some people might have better results on the traditional diet plans (eating 5-6 meals spread throughout the day).

Absorbtion wise, I feel less bloated and better in every way on IF. I actually had more issues with the regular diet. I can get 150-200g of protein in those 6-8 hours just fine. I can get more if I wanted to.

Regarding the "increase in metabolism everytime you eat" theory (which is the thermogenic effect of food digestion), I read so much about it and everything I read said that there is no clear indication in the studies done about how much it really is (quantify it) and if it is indeed translated into weight/fat loss. If I'm wrong, please show me a study that confirms it cause I haven't found any.

I can see where this is going so I'll just stop right here.

Originally Posted by XYZ

I can see where this is going so I'll just stop right here.

Haha, Why???

Seriously though, was I out of line? I was just exchanging knowledge and trying to see if I can learn something new. I like informative discussions.

Originally Posted by supaman23

Haha, Why???

Seriously though, was I out of line? I was just exchanging knowledge and trying to see if I can learn something new. I like informative discussions.

It just seems very clear to me how this is going to end after reading through some of your other posts, and no you're not out of line.

Originally Posted by XYZ

It just seems very clear to me how this is going to end after reading through some of your other posts, and no you're not out of line.

Alright then. Well everyone has their preferences and what works for them. My advice is pick one plan and stick with it and see if it works for you.

So regarding the topic of this thread, if someone is frustrated with the traditional diet and isn't getting the results he wants, there are other options out there and one of them might work better for you. IF is one of them.

On another note, I just found out about the carb-backloading diet and it seems very interesting and promising. I might give it a try in a few days, so stay tuned

Originally Posted by XYZ

someone I hired to do my cutting diet in the past has told me a number of times that eating multiple times a day is a much better option for you.

Seeing that your body needs to work harder (increase in metabolism) everytime you eat for digestion, it seems to make logical sense to me. It also makes sense in the aspect that I do not see how it is possible for your body to absorb and process 200-300g of protein in one small time frame. That would be approx. 40oz. of chicken in one time frame.........no thanks.

Multiple meals (referring to the 6 meals a day) is more for comfort. Not anything else. While that feeding protocol is still recommended largely, there are plenty of people that don't believe in it. For example on this very site Built has posted this and explained it several times: new girl needing advice

I've been doing IF for the past 2 years on 3 meals a day on 16/8 window with no issues. I like it and it works for me.

Originally Posted by BulkMeUp

Multiple meals (referring to the 6 meals a day) is more for comfort. Not anything else. While that feeding protocol is still recommended largely, there are plenty of people that don't believe in it. For example on this very site Built has posted this and explained it several times: new girl needing advice

I've been doing IF for the past 2 years on 3 meals a day on 16/8 window with no issues. I like it and it works for me.

Nice to hear from a fellow IFer

What type of diet are you running on IF?

Originally Posted by supaman23

Nice to hear from a fellow IFer

What type of diet are you running on IF?

I'm not a morning person so I workout after after work. I do 2 meals pre wo and 1 post wo. Works for me as, like Martin, I'm not a breakfast person either.

how tall are you supaman?

Originally Posted by BulkMeUp

Multiple meals (referring to the 6 meals a day) is more for comfort. Not anything else. While that feeding protocol is still recommended largely, there are plenty of people that don't believe in it. For example on this very site Built has posted this and explained it several times: new girl needing advice

I've been doing IF for the past 2 years on 3 meals a day on 16/8 window with no issues. I like it and it works for me.

I'm no diet expert, and never claimed to be that's why I hired someone. My diet knowledge isn't very good.

I've done it both ways, I just like eating less more often.....but, that's just me.

If IF works for you great.

Originally Posted by BulkMeUp

Multiple meals (referring to the 6 meals a day) is more for comfort. Not anything else. While that feeding protocol is still recommended largely, there are plenty of people that don't believe in it. For example on this very site Built has posted this and explained it several times: new girl needing advice

I've been doing IF for the past 2 years on 3 meals a day on 16/8 window with no issues. I like it and it works for me.

would you care to define "works for me"?

could you post a pic of your physique?