Originally posted by Dr. Pain
Well, somewhere we said if you eat a cup to 1 and 1/2 cups of veggies, or 4-6 cups of greens...don't count em...and specifically we were talking about the carbs, not the protein...(too difficult to seperate out)....Now with greater quantities...we suggested you count them...(I believe the last time this was mentioned, carb wise, was with asperagus in one of w8's journal's...lol)
The protein in oats, nuts etc, should be counted....esp since we count the foods, but the quality and assimilibility of the protein should be/or can be greatly discounted or ignored at the individuals discretion...except by Vegetarians...while these calories can not be! (So everyone here is right...from a certain POV
Lyle ...makes a point in his writings to say that if you got 20 grams of protein from say bagels.....it is still Protein...and should be counted.
DP and w8 say....Don't fucking eat bagels