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CCates · 06-10-2003, 12:09 PM

Hi there!
Ive been reading through a LOT of these threads and I didnt want to interrupt the Online journal section with just a question.

Who has the best journal to follow and get ideas from if Im going to start cutting?

My stats are:

135 female, 27 years old, and 5'2

My body fat is around 20%. I want to get it down as much as possible, and Im hoping to get myself toned without looking bulky or thick.

I need guidance before I start cutting and though Ive read and read, I really need some help!

**Jodi** · 06-10-2003, 12:26 PM

Welcome to IM CCates

Couple places to start reading are THESE (NEWBIES START HERE - Nutritional FAQ!) articles. These articles will guide you in the right direction to learning proper nutrition.

Also some good journals to check out is Julie's, Buff's, mine - titled Summer Time. Our jounals will provide you with some meal ideas, workouts and day to day stress that goes with cutting

Check all that out and let me know what you think!

**Prince** · 06-10-2003, 12:28 PM

Welcome to IM!

and I will add that you should check out some of the articles on the main site here: http://www.ironmagazine.com/modules....News&new_topic

also, download the free e-book here: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=18311

CCates · 06-10-2003, 12:50 PM

Thanks Prince. Thanks for the warm welcome and information.

You have a wonderful site! You should start taking donations. I was really surprised that this much information on a site is free.

Thats really rare these days!

Jodi, Hi back to you

I actually have been through yours, Julie's and Buff's journal. - which are amazingly dedicated, by the way. You three must seriously want it to be so thorough! Very admirable. A lot of my questions were answered about why you're on this plan and what it does already.

I also read through W8lifters nutritional thread for us newbies. Im understanding most of the ketosis diet, and how newbies should incorporate carbs once they form a plan.

Im still trying to understand a couple of things and then I can look to form a plan and maybe start a diary of my own. Im still researching, though.

Do you know why W8lifter had suggested that a cheat meal be eaten once a week at bedtime? Isnt bedtime when someone's metabolism is at its lowest? She suggested to one person a cup or two of ice cream late at night as the last meal.

Also, Im a bit unfamiliar with the saturated fat link and how polyunsaturated fats are unhealthy for heart disease risk. I thought polyunsaturated fats from oils made up some of the omega-6 EFA's?

I have done a LOT of reading and Im slowly understanding (Ive been reading since May..)

But I want this to be life changing and to have a full understanding rather than just a plan given to me.

Does this make sense?

**Jodi** · 06-10-2003, 01:01 PM

Normally I don't say yeah, have a cheat meal. Sure we schedule cheat meals on an occasion. The reason the best time to have the cheat meal at bedtime is because once you cheat, your cravings increase. So by having your cheat and going to bed you aren't sitting around all day craving and then saying well I already cheated once today what the hell is another cheat.

You want a mix of Poly and Monunsaturated fats for a healthy balance. I'm not sure where your getting the idea that poly's are unhealthy??

I wouldn't suggest a plan for any newbie to start out with that doesn't contain carbs. I think you should have slow burning carbs a few times a day to start out. Once you've been doing this for a while and your comfortable then cutting back your carbs is another approach.

Ask all the questions you want. There are plenty of us here capable of answering!

CCates · 06-10-2003, 01:08 PM

Jodi - but thats just basically because of cravings after a cheat meal, isnt it? If you control your willpower after your little indulgence- which is really what most people need to go on any diet IMO - then when is the ideal time to have an off meal? Of course I understand that ideally for the body never at all, but at bedtime?

These were in the nutritional thread as a link off one of the replies for fats..

http://www.mercola.com/2002/feb/23/v...sm_myths_06.ht
m

http://www.mercola.com/1997/nov/24/d...rt_disease.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2001/jul/21/trans_fat.htm

**Jodi** · 06-10-2003, 01:10 PM

The only article working is the one regarding Trans Fatty Acids and YES they are worse for you than Saturated fats.

CCates · 06-10-2003, 01:13 PM

This might work then..
The sixth thread from the bottom...

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...ight=saturated (carbohydrates)

Julie7Ulie · 06-10-2003, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CCates

I actually have been through yours, Julie's and Buff's journal. - which are amazingly dedicated, by the way. You three must seriously want it to be so thorough! Very admirable. A lot of my questions were answered about why you're on this plan and what it does already.

The addiction is contagious, my friend

**Jodi** · 06-10-2003, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CCates
This might work then..
The sixth thread from the bottom...

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...ight=saturated (carbohydrates)

Ok, it says EXCESSIVE poly's. Like I said above, you need a good mix of poly and mono to make up your EFA's.

CCates · 06-11-2003, 12:41 PM

How do you know if you are consuming an excessive quantity of anything? Protein, carbs and fat?

Why couldnt you just adjust your lifestyle to consuming chicken, with flax oil and maybea sweet potato?

Is it that dire to count everything, and if so, why?

**Jodi** · 06-11-2003, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CCates
How do you know if you are consuming an excessive quantity of anything? Protein, carbs and fat?

Because you learn your body. Learn how it reacts to different levels of P/C/F. Alot of it is trial and error. What works for one person may not work for another. We are all different and our bodies require different needs. I for one function very well on low carbs, my lifts still increase and I have alot of energy. Many people cannot do this and they require more carbs to function daily. Its trial and error, and learning your body

Why couldnt you just adjust your lifestyle to consuming chicken, with flax oil and maybea sweet potato?

If you really want to but it would be pretty boring

Is it that dire to count everything, and if so, why?

If someone wants to cut up then yes you need to count so you know what your taking in. If you don't know how much of what your eating you aren't going to figure out what is best for your body. While cutting, I measure, weight and calculate EVERYTHING

**Prince** · 06-11-2003, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CCates
Why couldnt you just adjust your lifestyle to consuming chicken, with flax oil and maybea sweet potato?

as Jodi said it would be boring, but also very unhealthy.

CCates · 06-12-2003, 02:19 PM

Why would that be unhealthy if you eat the necessary portions only?

Eat to live. isnt that what it is?

I also didnt mean ONLY chicken oil and sweet potato. I meant if Im hungry, and I feel like eating that, why cant I just eat it? Rather than measure it?

**Jodi** · 06-12-2003, 02:24 PM

First off you need a variety to keep your body guessing as well as provide different nutrients.

Second, you have to measure to make sure your getting the proper amount for that meal. If you just ATE 6 times a day without know how much your eating then you may not be getting enough or you may be getting too much. If you want to bulk or maintain, measuring is not as important but on a cut its all about knowing exactly what your putting in your body.

06-10-2003, 12:09 PM	#1
CCates Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 12	best online journal guide BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com Hi there! Ive been reading through a LOT of these threads and I didnt want to interrupt the Online journal section with just a question. Who has the best journal to follow and get ideas from if Im going to start cutting? My stats are: 135 female, 27 years old, and 5'2 My body fat is around 20%. I want to get it down as much as possible, and Im hoping to get myself toned without looking bulky or thick. I need guidance before I start cutting and though Ive read and read, I really need some help!

06-10-2003, 12:26 PM	#2
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,177 Photos: 1	Welcome to IM CCates Couple places to start reading are THESE (NEWBIES START HERE - Nutritional FAQ!) articles. These articles will guide you in the right direction to learning proper nutrition. Also some good journals to check out is Julie's, Buff's, mine - titled Summer Time. Our jounals will provide you with some meal ideas, workouts and day to day stress that goes with cutting Check all that out and let me know what you think!
	Essence EFA

06-10-2003, 12:28 PM	#3
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,295 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 313	Welcome to IM! and I will add that you should check out some of the articles on the main site here: http://www.ironmagazine.com/modules....News&new_topic also, download the free e-book here: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=18311
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06-10-2003, 01:01 PM	#5
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,177 Photos: 1	Normally I don't say yeah, have a cheat meal. Sure we schedule cheat meals on an occasion. The reason the best time to have the cheat meal at bedtime is because once you cheat, your cravings increase. So by having your cheat and going to bed you aren't sitting around all day craving and then saying well I already cheated once today what the hell is another cheat. You want a mix of Poly and Monunsaturated fats for a healthy balance. I'm not sure where your getting the idea that poly's are unhealthy?? I wouldn't suggest a plan for any newbie to start out with that doesn't contain carbs. I think you should have slow burning carbs a few times a day to start out. Once you've been doing this for a while and your comfortable then cutting back your carbs is another approach. Ask all the questions you want. There are plenty of us here capable of answering!
	Essence EFA

06-10-2003, 01:10 PM	#7
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,177 Photos: 1	The only article working is the one regarding Trans Fatty Acids and YES they are worse for you than Saturated fats.
	Essence EFA

06-10-2003, 12:50 PM	#4
CCates Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 12	Thanks Prince. Thanks for the warm welcome and information. You have a wonderful site! You should start taking donations. I was really surprised that this much information on a site is free. Thats really rare these days! Jodi, Hi back to you I actually have been through yours, Julie's and Buff's journal. - which are amazingly dedicated, by the way. You three must seriously want it to be so thorough! Very admirable. A lot of my questions were answered about why you're on this plan and what it does already. I also read through W8lifters nutritional thread for us newbies. Im understanding most of the ketosis diet, and how newbies should incorporate carbs once they form a plan. Im still trying to understand a couple of things and then I can look to form a plan and maybe start a diary of my own. Im still researching, though. Do you know why W8lifter had suggested that a cheat meal be eaten once a week at bedtime? Isnt bedtime when someone's metabolism is at its lowest? She suggested to one person a cup or two of ice cream late at night as the last meal. Also, Im a bit unfamiliar with the saturated fat link and how polyunsaturated fats are unhealthy for heart disease risk. I thought polyunsaturated fats from oils made up some of the omega-6 EFA's? I have done a LOT of reading and Im slowly understanding (Ive been reading since May..) But I want this to be life changing and to have a full understanding rather than just a plan given to me. Does this make sense?

06-10-2003, 01:08 PM	#6
CCates Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 12	Jodi - but thats just basically because of cravings after a cheat meal, isnt it? If you control your willpower after your little indulgence- which is really what most people need to go on any diet IMO - then when is the ideal time to have an off meal? Of course I understand that ideally for the body never at all, but at bedtime? These were in the nutritional thread as a link off one of the replies for fats.. http://www.mercola.com/2002/feb/23/v...sm_myths_06.ht m http://www.mercola.com/1997/nov/24/d...rt_disease.htm http://www.mercola.com/2001/jul/21/trans_fat.htm

06-10-2003, 01:13 PM	#8
CCates Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 12	This might work then.. The sixth thread from the bottom... http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...ight=saturated (carbohydrates)

06-11-2003, 12:41 PM	#11
CCates Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 12	How do you know if you are consuming an excessive quantity of anything? Protein, carbs and fat? Why couldnt you just adjust your lifestyle to consuming chicken, with flax oil and maybea sweet potato? Is it that dire to count everything, and if so, why?

06-12-2003, 02:19 PM	#14
CCates Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 12	Why would that be unhealthy if you eat the necessary portions only? Eat to live. isnt that what it is? I also didnt mean ONLY chicken oil and sweet potato. I meant if Im hungry, and I feel like eating that, why cant I just eat it? Rather than measure it?

06-12-2003, 02:24 PM	#15
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,177 Photos: 1	First off you need a variety to keep your body guessing as well as provide different nutrients. Second, you have to measure to make sure your getting the proper amount for that meal. If you just ATE 6 times a day without know how much your eating then you may not be getting enough or you may be getting too much. If you want to bulk or maintain, measuring is not as important but on a cut its all about knowing exactly what your putting in your body.
	Essence EFA

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