Too much water flushes out nutrients??

y2gt · 06-17-2003, 04:31 PM

Hey all....its been a while since i posted here...my job BANNED the use of internet during work hours!

anyway....i've been thinking about this recently and i want to get your opinions or maybe some hard facts...

I drink about a gallon or so, maybe more throughout the day by carrying a bottle with me all the time. Also, when I take my creatine or protein, i take it with about 32 oz. water. All the time, about 10-20 minutes after i take the supplement and water, I have to go so bad i can barely hold it in.

....Does that mean that the creatine or protein I just took is pissin out also and not getting absorbed. Because if I drank less water, I would be able to hold in the supps, nutrients from food, vitamins, etc... Does this make any sense, or not? What are your reasons for drinking so much damn water if you take supps? whadaya think??

Skib · 06-17-2003, 04:38 PM

although you should drink plenty of water, i've actually heard there is such thing as drinking too much water... how much is too much? i have no idea... if you're training on a regular basis, then obviously you'll need to drink plenty of water... however, i've heard a rumour that drinking too much water can lead to diabetes? not sure if that's true or not... also a good friend of mine claims her sister got water poisoning last year from drinking too much? i don't know if any of these rumours are true though... maybe someone else can clarify?

as for me, i pretty much just listen to my body... if i feel a thirst coming on i make sure i re-fuel... if i'm not thirsty, i don't drink anything... simple as that...

Robboe · 06-17-2003, 05:51 PM

Drinking too much water can upset the electrolyte balance.

Unless you're getting noticable problems (like muscle cramps for instance), then you're probably replacing any lost ions from drinking a lot of water via your diet and any additional minerals you take.

HyDr8 · 06-17-2003, 06:06 PM

32 OZ with creatine/protein sounds like a lot. I'd cut that in half.

TheIcon2 · 06-17-2003, 06:33 PM

As Chicken DAddy said it can cause problems with your electrolytes. On the other hand we are talking about major consumption of water. There is such a thing as poisoning. It is called water intoxication. Many inmates in penatentaries indulge in large quantities of water. We are talking in excess of 2 gallons of water ina very short amount of time. If you drink on average a gallon of water a day you should in no way have any negative effects.

Freeman · 06-17-2003, 07:30 PM

I absolutely LOVE water!

**Jodi** · 06-17-2003, 07:31 PM

I drink 1.5 gallons a day plus 2 protein shakes, coffee and sometimes crystal light without any issues. When you are drinking 5-6 L of water a day you should invest in an iron free Multi-mineral to take at the end of the to replace the minerals you depleted.

Freeman · 06-17-2003, 09:44 PM

Ditto

y2gt · 06-18-2003, 09:55 PM

thanks fo rthe answers all. I'll stick to the gallon a day but spread it out a little better.

Julie7Ulie · 06-25-2003, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Drinking too much water can upset the electrolyte balance.

Unless you're getting noticable problems (like muscle cramps for instance), then you're probably replacing any lost ions from drinking a lot of water via your diet and any additional minerals you take.

Does consuming a lot of water actually cause muscle cramps? Thats the first Ive heard of that, but it would answer a lot of questions i have.

Ever since I started drinking water like crazy, I would get muscle cramps in the wierdest places.

But they would HURT... really really hurt. For like two days. Everywhere, but more like places that Ive never had cramps before. Like on the right side of the back, or the neck, or the foot (for Pete's sake, thats the WORST) , or the quad. Even a crampy pain in the @ss (Literally - like the right butt cheek). Out of nowhere..

If its water, how is it causing this??

And if its not, what is?

**Jodi** · 06-25-2003, 11:29 AM

Are you taking your multi-minerals?

Julie7Ulie · 06-25-2003, 11:40 AM

umm.. no.. the headaches kinda went away. should I be? thats why i have cramps?

Robboe · 06-25-2003, 01:07 PM

Generally, if you up the water without upping the micronutrients (potassium in particular), then you can essentially "flush" some out, upsetting the balance.

The balance being basically sodium and potassium on either side of a membrane. There's a few more involved, but them two are the key ones.

Julie7Ulie · 06-25-2003, 02:36 PM

Lack of which one causes cramps?

Robboe · 06-25-2003, 02:44 PM

Apologies, i should have mentioned that above. It's potassium loss that is usually a major problem regarding cramps.

And basically upsetting any balance at all can cause problems.

**Prince** · 06-25-2003, 03:18 PM

there is no true scientific understanding of what causes cramps.

Julie7Ulie · 06-25-2003, 03:22 PM

ok..

Thanks guys..

It was wierd when I got out of the shower one night and my foot was cramped up on the arch. Out of nowhere, and at a really wierd spot. And the right side of my back, underneath the shoulder blade...

My body misses bananas..

Robboe · 06-25-2003, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince
there is no true scientific understanding of what causes cramps.

I was unaware of this.

However, drinking too much water can upset the sodium-potassium balance, which very much in theory now you've pointed it out, could cause cramps.

**Prince** · 06-25-2003, 03:45 PM

there is a lot of anecdotal info about cramps, such as water, potassium, etc., but no real science that I know of.

Robboe · 06-25-2003, 03:54 PM

Me either.

For the most part it's a relatively boring topic, so doesn't particularly interest me enough to go into further reading.

Julie7Ulie · 06-26-2003, 08:51 AM

Thanks TCD - last night I bought a good multi-mineral with a good dosage of Potassium

Thanks for your advice

JerrymeMorales · 06-27-2003, 11:56 PM

I remember a time when I was dieting and drinking water heavily...I would actually drink almost 2 gallons a day in order to flush my system.

One time after working out, I was cramping so bad, I actually thought I was going to die. It was one of the worst feelings that I have ever felt.

It wasnt until someone told me that too much water can be detrimental to your health.

Water is good but dont over do it like I have.

titans1854 · 06-30-2003, 12:01 AM

when i try real hard i get a nasty crampon the arch of my foot. i also heard that drinking soda gave you muscle cramps. is that true?

06-17-2003, 04:31 PM	#1
y2gt Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New York Posts: 164 Photos: 3	Too much water flushes out nutrients?? Hey all....its been a while since i posted here...my job BANNED the use of internet during work hours! anyway....i've been thinking about this recently and i want to get your opinions or maybe some hard facts... I drink about a gallon or so, maybe more throughout the day by carrying a bottle with me all the time. Also, when I take my creatine or protein, i take it with about 32 oz. water. All the time, about 10-20 minutes after i take the supplement and water, I have to go so bad i can barely hold it in. ....Does that mean that the creatine or protein I just took is pissin out also and not getting absorbed. Because if I drank less water, I would be able to hold in the supps, nutrients from food, vitamins, etc... Does this make any sense, or not? What are your reasons for drinking so much damn water if you take supps? whadaya think??

06-17-2003, 05:51 PM	#3
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	Drinking too much water can upset the electrolyte balance. Unless you're getting noticable problems (like muscle cramps for instance), then you're probably replacing any lost ions from drinking a lot of water via your diet and any additional minerals you take.
	Being held down by The Man

06-17-2003, 06:06 PM	#4
HyDr8 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 118	32 OZ with creatine/protein sounds like a lot. I'd cut that in half.
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06-17-2003, 06:33 PM	#5
TheIcon2 Expert In Donuts Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 98	As Chicken DAddy said it can cause problems with your electrolytes. On the other hand we are talking about major consumption of water. There is such a thing as poisoning. It is called water intoxication. Many inmates in penatentaries indulge in large quantities of water. We are talking in excess of 2 gallons of water ina very short amount of time. If you drink on average a gallon of water a day you should in no way have any negative effects.
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06-17-2003, 07:30 PM	#6
Freeman Bearded Attacker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,648 Photos: 8	I absolutely LOVE water!
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06-17-2003, 04:38 PM	#2
Skib Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 412	although you should drink plenty of water, i've actually heard there is such thing as drinking too much water... how much is too much? i have no idea... if you're training on a regular basis, then obviously you'll need to drink plenty of water... however, i've heard a rumour that drinking too much water can lead to diabetes? not sure if that's true or not... also a good friend of mine claims her sister got water poisoning last year from drinking too much? i don't know if any of these rumours are true though... maybe someone else can clarify? as for me, i pretty much just listen to my body... if i feel a thirst coming on i make sure i re-fuel... if i'm not thirsty, i don't drink anything... simple as that...

06-17-2003, 07:31 PM	#7
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	I drink 1.5 gallons a day plus 2 protein shakes, coffee and sometimes crystal light without any issues. When you are drinking 5-6 L of water a day you should invest in an iron free Multi-mineral to take at the end of the to replace the minerals you depleted.
	Essence EFA

06-17-2003, 09:44 PM	#8
Freeman Bearded Attacker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,648 Photos: 8	Ditto
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06-18-2003, 09:55 PM	#9
y2gt Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New York Posts: 164 Photos: 3	thanks fo rthe answers all. I'll stick to the gallon a day but spread it out a little better.

06-25-2003, 11:29 AM	#11
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	Are you taking your multi-minerals?
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06-25-2003, 11:40 AM	#12
Julie7Ulie Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: MA Posts: 735	umm.. no.. the headaches kinda went away. should I be? thats why i have cramps?
	... Im gettin' there!

06-25-2003, 01:07 PM	#13
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	Generally, if you up the water without upping the micronutrients (potassium in particular), then you can essentially "flush" some out, upsetting the balance. The balance being basically sodium and potassium on either side of a membrane. There's a few more involved, but them two are the key ones.
	Being held down by The Man

06-25-2003, 02:36 PM	#14
Julie7Ulie Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: MA Posts: 735	Lack of which one causes cramps?
	... Im gettin' there!

06-25-2003, 02:44 PM	#15
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	Apologies, i should have mentioned that above. It's potassium loss that is usually a major problem regarding cramps. And basically upsetting any balance at all can cause problems.
	Being held down by The Man

06-25-2003, 03:18 PM	#16
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,520 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 313	there is no true scientific understanding of what causes cramps.
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06-25-2003, 03:22 PM	#17
Julie7Ulie Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: MA Posts: 735	ok.. Thanks guys.. It was wierd when I got out of the shower one night and my foot was cramped up on the arch. Out of nowhere, and at a really wierd spot. And the right side of my back, underneath the shoulder blade... My body misses bananas..
	... Im gettin' there!

06-25-2003, 03:45 PM	#19
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,520 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 313	there is a lot of anecdotal info about cramps, such as water, potassium, etc., but no real science that I know of.
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06-25-2003, 03:54 PM	#20
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	Me either. For the most part it's a relatively boring topic, so doesn't particularly interest me enough to go into further reading.
	Being held down by The Man

06-26-2003, 08:51 AM	#21
Julie7Ulie Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: MA Posts: 735	Thanks TCD - last night I bought a good multi-mineral with a good dosage of Potassium Thanks for your advice
	... Im gettin' there!

06-27-2003, 11:56 PM	#22
JerrymeMorales Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 120	I remember a time when I was dieting and drinking water heavily...I would actually drink almost 2 gallons a day in order to flush my system. One time after working out, I was cramping so bad, I actually thought I was going to die. It was one of the worst feelings that I have ever felt. It wasnt until someone told me that too much water can be detrimental to your health. Water is good but dont over do it like I have.

06-30-2003, 12:01 AM	#23
titans1854 I'm a Berserker Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 602	when i try real hard i get a nasty crampon the arch of my foot. i also heard that drinking soda gave you muscle cramps. is that true?
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