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    Please help me out with my Diet- Beginner in need of advice.

    Hey everyone-
    I am newbie to these forums so let me introduce myself, my name is Matt.

    Hmm, where to begin without getting too indepth , Ok.. so I want to get in shape and build some muscle. My main goals are to have a better overall shape and I to lower my body fat which is right now 20%::sigh::.. and also want to get rid of my little Love Handles. I dont have a decent figure to start with so hopfully it won't be too hard.

    I started weightlifting and doing some cardio (running and swimming) about a month ago and now I need to work on my diet. Let me just say- I am used to eating as I please.. fastfoods 4-5 times a week, candy, junk food, the works.. you know. (I feel so bad now)

    I know that a diet is a major part of training and getting in shape but I am really clueless on nutrition, well I have a vague idea, and would really like someone to help me out if they so kindly would. All advice is appreciated and please remember I am a newbie so I don't know your slingo.

    This is the diet I have been on for about a week:

    Breakfast
    Protein Shake
    12oz. Skim Milk
    1 Scoop Powder
    2 Tbsp. Light Chocolate Syrup (I need this or I honestly can't drink it)
    1 Tbsp. Flaxseed

    MultiVitamin

    Vitamin C Tab


    Lunch usually looks something like this

    Seasoned Chicken Breast
    Baked Potato w/ Fat Free Spray Butter
    Ceasar Salad w/ Low Fat Dressing

    or

    A random sandwhich (usually italian with veggies a little light mayo)

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    WORKOUT
    little rest
    CARDIO
    -----------------------

    Post Workout -
    Protein Shake
    Creatine Drink


    Dinner -
    Flaxseed Capsule
    Steak / Veggie / Potato or Rice
    Turkey / Veggie / Potato or Rice
    Chicken / Veggie / Potato or Rice



    Snack

    Protein Bar

    Flaxseed Capsule

    Vitamin C
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    I don't know the protein / carb / fat / cals status for this and I don't really know how much I should have in a day either.

    Other info you may need to help:
    Major Target: Losing my "love handles" and exposing my abs (which i have but they just won't show yet heh)
    Body Weight: 147 - 154
    Height: 5'8
    Age: 16 (dont laugh :P)

    Well I am out of breath, heh, i know my diet needs major work so please if some people are willing to help that would be great! ThankYou!

    oh yeh, if for some reason I don't answer for like 2 or 3 days its because I had to take my computer into the shop, not that I am just a newbie scrub who will never be back. lol

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    Matt, read read read. Read the articles posted at the top of this forum. Then read them again. Look at others journals for diet suggestions......

    Jodi is a big help on the diet here..... and many others. While there is not one single right way there is definitely a better way than what you are currently thinking. You are at a wonderful time in your life to learn some great and healthy habits....... so READ UP!

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    yeh, after I posted I started reading those stickied articles. Guess I should've done that first.

    Well my diet will be undergoing some major tweaking after finish I finish reading the articles.

    Thanks for your help court and thanks to all the people to post in the future.

    Also- Can someone explain to me what a Carb up is? And when it should be done?
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    Originally posted by JerseyPunk
    yeh, after I posted I started reading those stickied articles. Guess I should've done that first.

    Well my diet will be undergoing some major tweaking after finish I finish reading the articles.

    Thanks for your help court and thanks to all the people to post in the future.

    Also- Can someone explain to me what a Carb up is? And when it should be done?
    Hi Jersey
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    Great idea reading those article especially if your looking to cut.
    Do read about carbing up but as a newbie to cutting I would not suggest a plan for you that requires a Carb-up. The idea of the carb up is that you have carb depleted for 3-4 days (under 30G carbs) then in your last meal on the 4th day you consume approx 75-125G of carbs most of them coming from slow burning carbs to help replenish some of glycogen you used during the depletion stage.



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    Ok, I read most of the articles last night and wow I have a lot of questions concerning meals.

    Ok, may as well ask them, most are fairly easy.

    Breakfast Related:
    So pretty much I am eating egg whites/1 whole egg. Ive added hot sauce (which I love by the way) to increase Metabolism and I also eat Quaker oats. 1. Should the oats be made with water or skim milk and 2. Is butter a good or bad thing, as I have read mixed reveiws? I also added cinnamon to the Oatmeal for metabolism raise and taste issues. Now, 3. what should I be having to drink? Water i am guessing?

    Lunch / Dinner
    Ok, so pretty much I am having one of the suggested meats with garlic powder, dash salt, pepper, and hot pepper sauce with a Veggie.
    4. Is there really a big difference between White/Brown Rice and White/Sweet Potatos? I mean I'm not into a Hardcore diet and am just looking to slim down (for now). Plus I am not a big fan of sweet potatos.

    Protein Shake Meals
    Ok, I read the many suggestions on using water / whipping cream / strawberries. Is this a better idea than the shake I have posted above?

    Also- how much fat should a 154lb male be eating in a day. It seems a little weird to be replacing the flaxseed oil with things like butter and whipping cream. And I am totally confused on how much flaxseed oil / capsules I should be taking and when.

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    Originally posted by JerseyPunk
    Breakfast Related:
    So pretty much I am eating egg whites/1 whole egg. Ive added hot sauce (which I love by the way) to increase Metabolism and I also eat Quaker oats. 1. Should the oats be made with water or skim milk and 2. Is butter a good or bad thing, as I have read mixed reveiws? I also added cinnamon to the Oatmeal for metabolism raise and taste issues. Now, 3. what should I be having to drink? Water i am guessing?

    Make your oats with water. Always try to use EFA's over any other fat source. Even though butter is fine, its not the best and you need your EFA's first and foremost - Flax oil, fish oil, olive oil, nuts etc. Drink lots and lots and lots of water. Approx. 6L a day

    Lunch / Dinner
    Ok, so pretty much I am having one of the suggested meats with garlic powder, dash salt, pepper, and hot pepper sauce with a Veggie.
    4. Is there really a big difference between White/Brown Rice and White/Sweet Potatos? I mean I'm not into a Hardcore diet and am just looking to slim down (for now). Plus I am not a big fan of sweet potatos.

    The difference in White/Brown Rice White/Sweet Potato is that brown rice and sweet potatos are a slow burning carbs. They burn slower in your system therefore there is less insulin response and less likely to store as fat. White Rice and Potatoes do increase insulin faster and could potentially store as fat. If you really want to have regular potatoes I hear that red potatoes are not as bad. As far as the rice, really try and stay with brown if you can. You could also choose other slow burning carbs like, oats, apples, grapefruit, berrys, pears. If you don't mind progress a bit slower, then try lentils, whole grain breads, fruits etc and these are all much better than white rice.

    Protein Shake Meals
    Ok, I read the many suggestions on using water / whipping cream / strawberries. Is this a better idea than the shake I have posted above?

    Flax Oil is better for you than heavy cream but the cream is good for a change

    Also- how much fat should a 154lb male be eating in a day. It seems a little weird to be replacing the flaxseed oil with things like butter and whipping cream. And I am totally confused on how much flaxseed oil / capsules I should be taking and when.

    I wouldn't replace flax seed oil for anything unless its another EFA like fish oil, olive oil etc. or unless you need a bit of a change every now and then. Are you taking the Oil or the capsules?



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    This is a modifed diet I have come up with. How is this looking?

    Cutting Diet.
    Purpose: To make me leaner.
    Weight: 154
    will this be effective?


    3 Egg Whites 51 Cal / 0 Fat / 11 P
    1 Egg Yolk 59 Cal / 5 Fat / 2 P
    *dash salt
    *dash pepper
    *dash crushed red pepper
    *Cayenne Pepper Sauce
    ---
    1/2 Cup Oats 300 Cal / 5.5 Fat / 13 P / 51 Carb
    3/4 Cup Water
    1 tsp. Butter 35 Cal / 4 Fat
    *dash cinnamon
    ---
    1 tbsp. Flaxseed Oil 14 Fat

    TOTALS
    445 Cal
    28.5 Fat
    26 Protein
    51 Carb
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|

    2 Scoop Protein Powder - 260 cal / 5 Fat / 10 Carb / 40 Pro
    12 oz Water
    4 tbsp. whipping cream - 198 Cal / 19 Fat / 2 Carb / 2 Pro
    4 Strawberries - 22 Cal / 5 Carb

    TOTALS
    480 Cal
    24 Fat
    42 Protein
    17 Carb

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|

    1 Breast Half 170 cal / 3.5 fat / 34 pro
    *hot pepper sauce
    *dash salt/pepper/garlic
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    1/2 cup cooked med grain brown rice 108 cal / 22 carb / 2 pro / 1 fat
    *cayenne pepper powder
    *hot pepper sauce
    -----
    Serving Salad with dressing 4 Carb / 120 cal / 0 fat

    TOTALS
    398 Cal
    4.5 Fat
    36 Protein
    26 Carb

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|

    1 Scoop Protein Powder - 130 cal / 2.5 Fat / 5 Carb / 20 Pro
    12 oz Water
    1 Tbsp. Flaxseed Oil - 14 Fat

    TOTALS
    130 Cal
    16.5 Fat
    20 Protein
    5 Carb

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|

    1 Breast Half 170 cal / 3.5 fat / 34 pro
    *mustard, salt, pepper
    -----
    1/2 Cup Green Beans 22 cal / 5 carb / 1 protein
    *salt, fat free spray butter
    -----
    Baked Sweet Potato 48 carb / 206 cal
    -----
    Flaxseed 14 g

    TOTALS
    398 Cal
    18 Fat
    35 Protein
    53 Carb

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    GRAND TOTALS:

    1851 Cal
    92 Fat
    159 Protein
    152 Carb

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    hmm I have a feeling my above plan isn't good. It's close to 40/40/20 but for some reason the numbers don't look high enough.

    Shouldn't I be getting much more protein? And isn't my fat a little high or it that just normal?

    Sorry for the spam just want to be really cautious with this diet because in like a month or so if there are no results I would feel pretty pissed that I had to eat like this and nothing happened!

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    Originally posted by JerseyPunk
    3 Egg Whites 51 Cal / 0 Fat / 11 P
    1 Egg Yolk 59 Cal / 5 Fat / 2 P
    *dash salt
    *dash pepper
    *dash crushed red pepper
    *Cayenne Pepper Sauce
    ---
    1/2 Cup Oats 300 Cal / 5.5 Fat / 13 P / 51 Carb
    3/4 Cup Water
    1 tsp. Butter 35 Cal / 4 Fat
    *dash cinnamon
    ---
    1 tbsp. Flaxseed Oil 14 Fat

    TOTALS
    445 Cal
    28.5 Fat
    26 Protein
    51 Carb

    You need more egg whites here or add some ground beef and scramble it all together. Try to go for 40G of protein You need to bring the fat down closer to 15G and decrease the to about 45G

    2 Scoop Protein Powder - 260 cal / 5 Fat / 10 Carb / 40 Pro
    12 oz Water
    4 tbsp. whipping cream - 198 Cal / 19 Fat / 2 Carb / 2 Pro
    4 Strawberries - 22 Cal / 5 Carb

    TOTALS
    480 Cal
    24 Fat
    42 Protein
    17 Carb

    this is good but your fat is too high

    1 Breast Half 170 cal / 3.5 fat / 34 pro
    *hot pepper sauce
    *dash salt/pepper/garlic
    ------
    1/2 cup cooked med grain brown rice 108 cal / 22 carb / 2 pro / 1 fat
    *cayenne pepper powder
    *hot pepper sauce
    -----
    Serving Salad with dressing 4 Carb / 120 cal / 0 fat

    TOTALS
    398 Cal
    4.5 Fat
    36 Protein
    26 Carb

    Increase your protein to 40-45G and bring your fat up to around 15G. Also bring your carbs up to about 40

    1 Scoop Protein Powder - 130 cal / 2.5 Fat / 5 Carb / 20 Pro
    12 oz Water
    1 Tbsp. Flaxseed Oil - 14 Fat

    TOTALS
    130 Cal
    16.5 Fat
    20 Protein
    5 Carb

    Double your protein and everything else is good

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    1 Breast Half 170 cal / 3.5 fat / 34 pro
    *mustard, salt, pepper
    -----
    1/2 Cup Green Beans 22 cal / 5 carb / 1 protein
    *salt, fat free spray butter
    -----
    Baked Sweet Potato 48 carb / 206 cal
    -----
    Flaxseed 14 g

    TOTALS
    398 Cal
    18 Fat
    35 Protein
    53 Carb

    Increase your protein a bit and decrease your carbs. I would also add another meal in with 40-45P, 15G Fat and 5C for your last meal of the day

    GRAND TOTALS:

    1851 Cal
    92 Fat
    159 Protein
    152 Carb



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    Jodi, thanks for your continuous help

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    What is the difference between adding water / skim milk / whole milk to your shakes? The water makes the shake taste sooo bad, heavy cream or not. Will the skim milk with a tablespoon of flax make me gain fat? I don't really care much about be a huge bodybuilder I just want to lose some fat. The diet I am on now is so extremely harsh for me and I don't see me lasting for more than a couple weeks.

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    Its the sugar in the milk that makes it bad. There is 12G of sugar in 1 cup of skim milk.

    You have to decide what's right for you. If you want to lose bodyfat then the more you stick to a cutting plan the faster it will happen. If you arn't concern how long it takes then lighten your plan up a bit and have more of a variety of foods. Its all up to you and your goals.



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