Thread: Milk or no milk?

well that's the thing... from personal observation it seems like a lot of people here depend on protein shakes to get that extra protein in them...

Typically you will seee people saying they cut out milk if they're leaning up, if you're 'bulking' drink the milk, it quality protein. But, either way milk is not bad.

If you're not gaining weight increase you calories, start by a couple hundred a day. I can tell you right now that you need to increase protein to at least one gram per pound of bodyweight minimum.

If you cannot get the extra calories and protein thru food, then yes use a shake or a protein bar (I prefer bars). You can also add another meal, you're at 5 try eating 6 meals per day.

also, you might want to consider dropping the soy nuts, do some searches here for soy, we've talked about it before.

My aunt...a former body builder now living in NY, has offered me great advise about gaining and leaning up. I am not body building, but training for figure and when I started, I had to increase my protein so I wouldn't loose too much muscle while getting lean. I was using 2 % milk in my protein shakes and she advised me not to. If you are trying to cut, not a good idea, even my fiance will say so. Milk has sugars and it basically puts an extra layer on you kinda like water does. I vowed not to use water in my shakes because of the taste so I started using soy milk. It's good and thick and tastes really good in the shakes. Don't get the flavored soy milk. EdenSoy is good and so is Soy silk. There are some you can get that don't even need to be refrigerated. But your best bet is using water...you won't store it (or shouldn't too badly) and it's good for you!

I had the same problem as you when I was younger and single. I was able to eat everything without gaining an ounce of fat. I'd suggest eating cottage cheese, whole milk, ice cream and cheese. All are calorie dense and with your obviously high metabolism, I wouldn't worry too much about BF.

Hey Buffgirl, where in NC are you?

I had to cut all dairy before I started seeing real results... I agree, cut the milk!

Originally posted by butterfly
I had to cut all dairy before I started seeing real results... I agree, cut the milk!

My kids and myself will drink 5 gallons of milk per week during the winter when I'm bulking. Come springtime cut, I'll bet we don't go thru 1.5 gallons in a week.

In regard to milk and dairy products:

I think it's essential to have sufficient dairy in your diet as a means of supplying your body with calcium. Although milk has no direct effect on training, it does however have a great effect on health. Building healthy teeth and bones. Dairy products are the chief source of calcium in your diet.

Women should be especially careful as a calcium deficiency can cause osteoporosis. Which can develope at an early age, not just when your old. My aunty infact has it quite badly and she is only 45!!

However if you have a problem with milk, either you can't stomach it or you want to cut it out of your diet, then I agree with buffgirl. Replacing milk with soy milk is a good option. Soy milk has loads of calcium and tastes pretty good with much less fat than milk. In the UK we can get fat free milk, it tastes watery but mixed with a protein shake and it's fine.

Happy training

Originally Posted by cordero

Okay, now that I write this down, it doesn’t seem like much at all. But I don’t want to get fat either. I think I’m getting about 130 grams of protein a day, and that seems like way to little. How do you do it without making three protein shakes a day?

I manage to get bout 200g a day with out any protien shakes at all

heres what i normally get through in a day:

Meal 1

4 boiled eggs (yolks removed) = 24g
1 cup whole grain oat meal with milk = 17g
120g low fat cottage cheese = 14g
total = 55g

Meal 2


100g canned tuna = 24g
100g low fat mozarella = 20g
total = 44g


Meal 3

200g lean grilled turkey/chicken = 46g
total = 46g


Meal 4

100g canned tuna = 24g
120g low fat cottage cheese = 14g
total = 38g

Meal 5

salmon fillet or
lean pork chops or
lean beef steak = approx 30g
total = 30g

nb i have a least one portion of fruit or veg with each meal which gives me my the recommend 5 portions a day

total protein from food = approx 210g
+
two protien shakes = 254g per day

If your not used to eating a lot the best way is to increase the amount you eat gradually

Why bother bumping old threads like this?

Just in case the person who posted the question 13 months ago happens to come back, i suppose.

If he come back, DO NOT mix mlk with whey protein.