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You need to get your diet in order and learn how and what to eat. You need to get your body used to eating 5-6 times a day, and you need to introduce healthy food choices to your body.
After that you can worry about all these so-called "tweaks".
Make a bulking plan, than ease into it (1-2weeks) and than stay on it for a while (3-4weeks) than you can see what needs to be changed. But I don't think soda or chocolate after a workout is going to ever be your answer!
Try reading recent posts by Patbuck - Jodi helped him get a nice bulking plan together.
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08-02-2003, 08:09 AM #1Registered User
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carb from sodas?
someone told me that if i wanna bulk up i should take 200-300 carbs 15 min after i workout.
so i was wondering whether i can get the carbs from chocolate and sodas?
or would that just make me fat?
thx in advance
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thank u dymas.
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Definately won't help after a workout. Soda provides no nutrition at all.
If you want a diet soda once or twice a day by all means go ahead just be sure your drinking plenty of water. If I want a diet soda I be sure I drank most of my water for the day first
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the carbs in the sodas doesnt help at all?
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You should not be drinking regular soda only diet soda and there are no carbs in diet soda. Regular soda is full of sugar and we all know
sugar is bad. 
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Chocolate and sodas
nice diet plan, its the wrong kind of carbs, the fattening kind.
Those are sugar carbs man, poor quality. They raise insulin levels so quickly that they tend to store things as fat, and the energy 'high' is only temporary, you want high quality carbs, bodybuilders dont eat 6 candy bars and 4 liters of soda as part of thier post workout meal.Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu
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I know what he is thinking...simple sugars immediately post work out are/can be good. For example, I drink some sips of unconcentrated OJ after my work out and have some strawberries with my post work out shake. candy and sodas is just ridiculous though
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..ooh, and many body builders will even have a baked potato immediately post w/o to get that insulin spike that you're going for with consuming simple sugars....
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the majority of the sugars in soft drinks are fructose which does not help recovery or to replenish muscle glycogen. you need glucose based sugars like dextrose and maltodextrin for post workout..Originally posted by Jodi
Definately won't help after a workout. Soda provides no nutrition at all.
If you want a diet soda once or twice a day by all means go ahead just be sure your drinking plenty of water. If I want a diet soda I be sure I drank most of my water for the day first
I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.
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exactly...
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Found this on a website:
So much hype has been placed upon carbohydrates as being the enemy when trying to lean out and get in shape. However, much of these myths would be dispelled if people were able to test the benefits of carbs for muscle building, to gain that dense, hard look.
Without glucose, your muscles simply can not grow to their full potential, no matter how much protein you feed them. In fact, if you are not giving your body the ample amount of carbs (especially post workout), it will convert protein from your muscles into glucose to get the energy it needs to recover and leave you in a catabolic state.
Consuming too much glucose is not advised either, but follow these 6 easy steps from Muscle and Fitness magazine and you too will rediscover the benefits of this amazing muscle builder.
1). Post workout recovery efforts should be centered around high-glycemic carbs, such as juice or simple sugars (fruit).
2). If you can select specific carbs (rather than eating foods), pick glucose or dextrose. These are found in fruits and honey and spike your insulin levels to put more carbs into your muscles (increase glycogen).
3). Do this after every training session, period.
4). Amount of sugar needed depends on intensity, but here is an example. Training hard for 6o to 80 minutes would require about .4 to .8 grams of high glycemic carbs per pound of bodyweight. If you are 200#s, that is 80 to 160 of grams.
5). If using advanced training techniques like negatives or forced reps may require more emphasis on carbs.
6). Consider taking about 10 to 20 grams before or during your workout to keep your body from breaking down muscle. Train hard!
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thx guys.
sorry couldnt reply any sooner.
just got back from east borneo.
its difficult to go online there.
anyway thx again for the info.
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