How long you stick with your Diet

**patbuck** · 08-08-2003, 12:41 PM

HI, I'm on a bulking Diet of 4000 cal.

I almost eat always the same food.
carb are:
Oatmeal,brown rice, Green bean, Brocoli, brussel sprout,apple,banana, peach.

Protein:
Beef, chicken, Whey

Fat:
Flax, olive, peanut butter

I was wondering if I should change the food I'm eating.
Is is correct to have always the same exact food every day?

I would also like to know how long do you guys stick with the same diet before making any change?

As an example, I was planing on keeping the same amount of carb,protein,and fat for 1 month. If my weight doesn't go up I though I could change the diet a little bit. Like having less carb and more protein, or less carb more fat, or increasing protein whitout touching the carbs...

IS this again all depending on my personnal experience?
What have worked for you?

**naturalguy** · 08-08-2003, 12:47 PM

You should be making adjustments. If you are making gains then stick with it, don't stop at 1 month if it is working. On the flip side, if it is not working then yes you should change. There is no set time, everybody's body responds differently.

**Mudge** · 08-08-2003, 01:11 PM

Adjustments are to avoid boredom, right now I eat as a function of life and in the last 4 weeks I have had one cheat day of pizza, no soda or anything like that though.

I try to get my biz done in the kitchen and get out, avoid hunger, thats when I find that I can find myself justifying a cheat, so this is where regularity of the diet comes into play.

Since your eating a fair amount of calories I would think cheating should not be a problem, other than mentally but not so much your stomach bothering you. The more I refrain from cheating, the less I think about it and so on.

**patbuck** · 08-08-2003, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by Mudge
Adjustments are to avoid boredom, right now I eat as a function of life and in the last 4 weeks I have had one cheat day of pizza, no soda or anything like that though.

I try to get my biz done in the kitchen and get out, avoid hunger, thats when I find that I can find myself justifying a cheat, so this is where regularity of the diet comes into play.

Since your eating a fair amount of calories I would think cheating should not be a problem, other than mentally but not so much your stomach bothering you. The more I refrain from cheating, the less I think about it and so on.

OK but I was more asking, what should I do if after 1 month of eating the same diet , same meal every day, I don't have much gain? (My weight doesn't increase)

**Jodi** · 08-08-2003, 01:30 PM

Increase each week a few hundred calories per day until you find what you need to intake to go over maintenance. Just don't do it too fast or you could gain too much fat to go with it.

**patbuck** · 08-08-2003, 01:33 PM

Hi Jodi, would you increase calorie from carb prot of fat?

**Jodi** · 08-08-2003, 01:58 PM

What is your protein right now?

**patbuck** · 08-08-2003, 02:11 PM

cal:3997.765
Protein:293.77
Carb:557.02
FAt:62.76

**Jodi** · 08-08-2003, 02:52 PM

How much do you weigh. I'm thinking you should increase the protein.

**patbuck** · 08-08-2003, 02:54 PM

5,9" 180lbs, since I started that diet 2 weeks ago I gained 5 lbs I was 175lbs.

**Jodi** · 08-08-2003, 03:00 PM

Then why worry about it now. If you've put on 5 pounds in 2 weeks thats outstanding. You ask for any more than that and your going to get fat

You should shoot for 2 solid pounds a week and nothing more. Once you don't hit that then start increasing. You don't want to get fat do you?

**naturalguy** · 08-08-2003, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by patbuck
5,9" 180lbs, since I started that diet 2 weeks ago I gained 5 lbs I was 175lbs.

OK you've gained 5 lbs. in 2 weeks, I wouldn't increase your calories yet.

**patbuck** · 08-08-2003, 03:05 PM

Ok but I though I was increasing juste because I have change so fast from the leaning to the bulking.
I was having 2200 cal a day and I switch over night on a 4000cal.

I think it's only fat I gained... I can't really tell what is it when I look in the miror. I know mi strengh have increased and I have more juice for the training...

**naturalguy** · 08-08-2003, 03:10 PM

That is a big jump in calories, you should increase them slowly.

It could be fat, muscle or most likely water. The best thing to do throughout this is to measure yourself and get your bodyfat tested on a regular basis so you know what is going on.

**Jodi** · 08-08-2003, 03:10 PM

Just stick with it for now and monitor your weight gain. Good Luck

**Mudge** · 08-08-2003, 03:18 PM

Woah, if you nearly double your calories yes your going to gain fat. I dont know of anyone that can naturally add that much bodyweight and have it all be muscle, 300-500 calories added is fine but not another 2k, that is all some people take in all day long.

**P-funk** · 08-08-2003, 10:28 PM

I wouldn't increase protein if I were you (i am 180 also). You are already over 1.5g x bw (180x1.5=270). I know the magazines say that you should eat 2g per lb bodyweight but in my opinion 1.5 is as high as I go, and that may even be a bit high. You have to think about how much of that you are actually absorbing. Sometimes going a little lower may be more beneficial for you in terms of protein absorbtion. Try having some days were your protein is a bit lower than that (say 200-210g),maybe in an off training day, to help with absorbtion.

**patbuck** · 08-11-2003, 09:22 AM

What about the food I'm eating?
IS it ok to have the exact same food every day?

**Jodi** · 08-11-2003, 09:23 AM

Yeah its ok, I eat the same exact food EVERY SINGLE DAY!

It does get boring but at least were consistant

**Skib** · 08-11-2003, 04:28 PM

so many people say 1.5-2 g of protein per lb of body weight, but others say that amount per lb of lbm

which one is it?

300 g for somebody who only weighs 180 seems like a lot of protein... can't your body only do so much with it before you just start pissing it out?

**patbuck** · 08-12-2003, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by Skib
so many people say 1.5-2 g of protein per lb of body weight, but others say that amount per lb of lbm

which one is it?

300 g for somebody who only weighs 180 seems like a lot of protein... can't your body only do so much with it before you just start pissing it out?

Well you know, I'm on that 4000 cal a day diet and I don't find I eat a lot.
I think I could get an extra 1000 or 2000 cal in the diet and then it would start to be a lot...

I though I would see my weight going up pretty fast but it hasn't moved since I started the diet 2 1/2 weeks ago.
I went up 5 lbs when I switch from the leaning to bulking and that it. I'm sure it's all water and ....

I guest if you train really hard the body can use pretty much all the protein you eat... unless it goes above 2gr per body weight.

**patbuck** · 08-25-2003, 09:35 AM

Hey guys,
I was wondering what is gain in weight I should expect with a 4000cal diet?

is 1 pound a week ok?
Or 2 pound a month is more realistic?

**Jodi** · 08-25-2003, 09:39 AM

Doesn't matter what your caloric intake is. It all depends on your metabolism.

If you are gaining 1/2 pound to 1.5 pounds a week your doing good.

**patbuck** · 08-29-2003, 08:25 AM

It has now been One month since I switch my diet to 4000 cal.
I have only put on 1 pounds.
I was 180. Now I'm 181 after 1 month.

I'm going to try to increase my calorie intake, I will do it by adding milk and yogurt in my diet.
I'm bulking so it's ok to gain some fat I guest.

What do you guys think?

**Jodi** · 08-29-2003, 08:31 AM

Personally I think you should just increase your carb intake, from oats, brown rice etc.

**patbuck** · 08-29-2003, 08:40 AM

I'm already having 2 1/3 cup of Steel cut oats
4 cup of Brown rice.
More of these will probably kill Me :o

Maybe I can try adding more rice, I hav 2 cup on the morning and one cup meal 5 and 4. instead on one cup I can increase to 2 cups.
Ok I'll try that first. But if it doesn't work I'll put the milk in the mix on the morning and before bed.

**Jodi** · 08-29-2003, 08:49 AM

Brown Rice
Oats
Sweet Potatoes
Red Potatoes
New Potatoes
Legumes
Lentils
Fiber One
All Bran
Uncle Sam Cereal
Whole Wheat Pasta

**patbuck** · 08-29-2003, 08:51 AM

Whole wheat pasta, I didn't know I could have that.. great...

**Jodi** · 08-29-2003, 08:52 AM

Only while bulking not while cutting

Oh yeah,

Whole Grain or 12 Grain Bread

**rookieisme** · 09-09-2003, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by Jodi
Yeah its ok, I eat the same exact food EVERY SINGLE DAY!

It does get boring but at least were consistant

I want to get into a similar routine. Do you know of any books that will give me specific things to buy and/or cook so I can get the best carb,protein and fat intake?

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