Carb GI Lists??

**kdwa1** · 09-19-2003, 09:24 AM

Hello everyone,I'm just wondering where I can find a GI List for various carbs.
It gets a bit confusing when it comes to fruits.I'm trying Twin Peaks carb cycling and need better seperation of the good from the bad.Thanks

**Jodi** · 09-19-2003, 09:27 AM

In the new sticky titled Guide to Dieting & getting cut there is a link for the glycemic index.

**kdwa1** · 09-19-2003, 10:29 AM

Thanks Jodi,got it.I'm mostly trying to decide which friuts to eat on the cycling diet before carbs.Ivé been eating apple mostly.Any more?
Also wondering if you eat fruit on the no carb day.Tks

**Jodi** · 09-19-2003, 11:50 AM

I eat any small fruit. Peaches, berries, apples, plums, pears, clementines etc.

**Mudge** · 09-19-2003, 01:59 PM

Green apples

**sara** · 09-19-2003, 03:41 PM

just stay away from watermelons, cantaloupes and grapes!
I dunno if you allowed oranges

**Skib** · 09-19-2003, 08:00 PM

i alternate between a peach and an apple on a daily basis... ocassionally i'll have some strawberries but they're kind of expensive here...

**Pepper** · 09-19-2003, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by sara
just stay away from watermelons, cantaloupes and grapes!
I dunno if you allowed oranges

I think the consensus earlier was that organges and grapefruits were OK on a cut. I'll look for the thread.

**kdwa1** · 09-19-2003, 09:29 PM

Does anyone think about food comnination? Meaning that some friuts will easily digest with protein and carbs and others won't.
From my studies over the years Ivé found that fruits containing enzymes like papain(papaya) bromelin(pineapple) and also apple,tomato(which is a fruit) and avocado digest well with other foods.However the sweet juicy others usually don't.
I idea is that most fruit digests faster than carbs or protein but if in the stomach at the same time the fruit will stay there for too long and give you indigestion and sick feeling because of the fermention process unless of course they have the enzymes or are compatible with other foods.
Many natural foods stores sell food combining charts that are an interesting read.
I think Twin Peak says that we need a fairly sweet fruit so I suppose a tomato wouldn't do on his suggested diet of carb cycling and the Avocado would be too high in fat.Thoughts?Tks

**Jodi** · 09-19-2003, 10:54 PM

TP says any small fruit will do.

**kdwa1** · 09-19-2003, 11:04 PM

But still if people are having indigestion problems then food combining is something to look at,wouldn't you agree?
I don't think most people are going to eat strawberries with their steak & eggs even if TP says it's cool.Individual choice and bobies,right? Actually it doesn't sound too bad but it comes down to efficient digestion.LOL
Anyway some people can digest anything,even metal.

**sara** · 09-19-2003, 11:23 PM

I'm craving for pears now

I'll go buy some tomorrow

**kdwa1** · 09-19-2003, 11:28 PM

I'll take pears over metal anyday.Sounds good Sara.

**Jodi** · 09-19-2003, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by kdwa1
But still if people are having indigestion problems then food combining is something to look at,wouldn't you agree?
I don't think most people are going to eat strawberries with their steak & eggs even if TP says it's cool.Individual choice and bobies,right? Actually it doesn't sound too bad but it comes down to efficient digestion.LOL
Anyway some people can digest anything,even metal.

Well of cousse I agree butl if you don't like strawberries and steak together or they cause indigestion together then don't eat that. I'm not sure I'm following your argument here.

If some fruits won't work for you then don't eat them. I haven't found a fruit yet that I have a problem digesting with other foods

**kdwa1** · 09-19-2003, 11:50 PM

I'm not arguing,just making a point about food combinations and thinking that some fruits are better than others for being compatible with specific meals that won't hinder digestion process.Alot of people get heart burn from wrong combinations.There's always more to it I believe.So I'm looking for the best fruits with the carb cycle,That's all.LOL
If it doesn't bother you,go for it.

**kdwa1** · 09-20-2003, 07:32 AM

I think drinking an ounce of juice will do the trick too.

**Jodi** · 09-20-2003, 08:03 AM

Im not saying its an argument, I guess I meant I wasn't following your statement. I don't believe oj would be a good alternative though.

**kdwa1** · 09-20-2003, 09:35 AM

No problem Jodi,understood.I agree OJ wouldn't do.It would have to be apple or pineapple.But the pine might have too much sugar.Only 1 ounce though.
All I know is it's really strange going on this diet after doing low carb for so long.I feel like I'm actually eating again but definitely watching the measurements etc.Kinda freaky on a high carb day,huh?
Hope it really works.Tks

**Jodi** · 09-20-2003, 10:42 AM

I did low carb before this for a long time and I don't think I will ever do it again. Just don't count carbs on high carb day

I know its hard to get use to it but listen to your body and you'll know when you've had enough

**kdwa1** · 09-20-2003, 11:33 AM

Thanks Jodi,Just gotta be real strict on the NO carb days and careful on the low.On a high carb day I'm doing 1/2 cups per meal.May up it later once I get used to the fullness again.

**Jodi** · 09-20-2003, 11:35 AM

1/2 C. Shit I eat that on low carb days.

**kdwa1** · 09-20-2003, 11:49 AM

I know your probably doing 1-2 cups every meal ,right?
After all the low carb dieting I feel like a cow eating so much.
Do you do it with all your carbs Jodi? I think 1 cup would be my max after the veggies and proteins.And yes I have been counting the carbs especially rice.Tks.

**kdwa1** · 09-20-2003, 11:51 AM

One thing I didn't mention is age.I think we respond differently at various ages.I'm 49 so my body really wants to put the fat on.If I had had this diet at 28,no problem I'd burn it off with the higher metabolism.

**Jodi** · 09-20-2003, 11:52 AM

There is no max. Eat til your satisfied. First eat your protein, veggies & fruit then eat your carbs til your satisfied. I would range 1-2 approx. I don't know the only thing I ever measure was oats because you have to and oats I would eat minimum 1 C. measured dry. Don't count your carbs. Yes you will be a bit bloated and yes the scale with move but you shouldn't worry about it. Trust me, if I can do this diet to and be ready for a competition in 9 weeks and not count my carbs then so can you. Do you understand the reasoning behind the high carb days.

**Jodi** · 09-20-2003, 11:56 AM

Don't worry about your age. Doesn't matter what our age is, if we don't eat enough we won't drop bodyfat. Simply said.

**kdwa1** · 09-20-2003, 12:12 PM

Yea The high carb days are to load Glycogen stores and to keep the body feed so it doesn't promote fat gain when it goes into the no carb zone and to control the insulin level basically.But I'm sure there's,just takes time to sink in.Thanks,appreciate the example and support.Cool stuff.
Oh and eight more days! I wish you the best.Rock n Roll

You know,it's the weirdest thing when someone says,Don't count carbs.Seems that all we ever hear in dieting is count em.

What a concept.I should of thought of it.

**Jodi** · 09-20-2003, 01:22 PM

Also, it raises leptin too keep your body from thinking its dieting and to keep your body out of starvation mode. Yeah I know its hard to get use to. Thanks I'm hoping I at least won't get last place.

**kdwa1** · 09-20-2003, 10:00 PM

I remember when I was doing 30 g's of carb dieting.I was HUNGRY and felt empty alot,everytime I did eat more my body would save the fat.Then the next day even lower carb,it's a vicious cycle.If it hadn't been for the proteins I would have starved.
Anyway I tried alot of diets over the years.Vegetarian 6 years and lost tons of weight 205 in H.S. then down to 160 at 6'3".Fruitarian 8 months even lower.Then the 70-80 percent carbs daily,got fatter.So it's interesting to find new ideas and try em out.
Most of the time on diets it's either feast or famine.Tks
It's a big job trying to creat the perfect body but hey someones got to do it,right?Stay pumped girl.

**kdwa1** · 09-20-2003, 10:35 PM

Jodi,I forgot to ask,Do you prefer to do the high carb days on training days or does it matter?
And do u always cycle every three days or take extra no carb days?Tks

**Jodi** · 09-20-2003, 10:53 PM

3 day cycle

I always make sure I train on high and low carb days.

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