Does anyone have a sample cutting diet that has worked?

**ajustana** · 10-01-2003, 12:45 PM

Do you use those bars as an entire meal replacement?

i.e. - could I eat one of those bars instead of eating my protein shake (meal 2)?

**nikegurl** · 10-01-2003, 12:46 PM

i'd avoid the bars for the most part. you'd be better off sticking with whole foods and protein powder. the bars are generally loaded with fillers, preservatives and even sugar (in some cases).

here's a link to a long discussion where you can read more.

Protein Bars are Evil!

also, hard boiled eggs travel well so that may be an option if you're on the run in the morning (make them the night before)

**Jodi** · 10-01-2003, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by BabsieGirl
How is it not "practical" to design a meal plan? It's done all the time. One was "designed" for you. One was "Designed" by me. All this person asked was, "Hey, what worked for you?" Nutritionists "design" them all the time. I didn't say this boad designs them. Nor did I say by "designing" a meal plan for someone would work. It's experiemental. That's like saying, it's not practical to "design" a routine for weight training or cardio.

"If people want help, then I expect that they would want to take it upon themselves to learn." I agree. But, this is a "learning" experience for this person who was wanting to learn what worked for you, for me, for others out there that hit success or failure.

When I first started, I didn't know it all. I asked all over the place and did research. I did a combination of both which has helped me progress. I still do it and will continue to ask, help and research.

I was not designed a meal plan. I was given guidlines, just like the guidelines that I suggested. Designing a meal plan means eating these food at these times. Something I won't do. We provide the guidelines and in those stickies there are an abundant of guidelines and suggestions to develop your own meal plan. Carb Cycling is a guideline with suggested foods, just like the diets in the sticky.

**Jodi** · 10-01-2003, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by ajustana
Jodi,

Thank you very much for your suggestions. Those changes look like they shouldn't be hard. The only one I'm worried about is trying to get more protein for breakfast. Usually I'm crunched for time to get to work and can't spend too much time cooking something. Any suggestions other than eggs?

Also, how does one eat the dry oatmeal? Do you actually cook it in something first?

You cook the oatmeal with water in the microwave.

Try cooking some boiled eggs the night before. Makes it easy and convenient.

**nikegurl** · 10-01-2003, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by BabsieGirl
I purchase EAS Myoplex Carb Sense bars.
240Calories
Fat Calories: 50
30g protein
3g impact carbs.

this is a good example of what i meant about bars.

we have 240 calories.

30 grams protein. 4 calories per gram so that's 120 calories from protein.

3 grams impact carbs. 4 calories per gram so there's 12 calories.

50 calories from fat.

add it up....182 calories.

that leaves 58 calories unaccounted for

**BabsieGirl** · 10-01-2003, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by nikegurl
this is a good example of what i meant about bars.

we have 240 calories.

30 grams protein. 4 calories per gram so that's 120 calories from protein.

3 grams impact carbs. 4 calories per gram so there's 12 calories.

50 calories from fat.

add it up....182 calories.

that leaves 58 calories unaccounted for

If you'd like I can take the unneeded time to input everything that's on the label.

There's Cholesterol, sodium, potassium, dietary fiber, 2 grams of sugar.

You guys are entitled to your opinions however, for me this works. If you're running behind on a meal or in a rush and don't have time, these bars DO come in handy. I don't eat the whole thing though. I eat it in half's.

A -- Or like NG said, drink another Protein shake. You don't want too much protein though because too much will turn into fat.

NG -- He doesn't want to cook. Eggs are out of the question for him. This was a suggestion.

**BabsieGirl** · 10-01-2003, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by Jodi
I was not designed a meal plan. I was given guidlines, just like the guidelines that I suggested. Designing a meal plan means eating these food at these times. Something I won't do. We provide the guidelines and in those stickies there are an abundant of guidelines and suggestions to develop your own meal plan. Carb Cycling is a guideline with suggested foods, just like the diets in the sticky.

Okay Jodi......I was under the impression this was made for you. You designed it based on the guide lines.

I didn't mean to offend you by any means. I'm VERY low carbs and very irritable....I'm sorry.......

JODI IS A GOOOOOD WOMAN..........................

**nikegurl** · 10-01-2003, 01:29 PM

cool if the bars work for you.

my main point is that glycerine and sugar alcohols have calories and are included in the calorie count listed for bars but don't have to be included in the carb count on the label. it's misleading in my opinion. (plus when your body stores fat it converts triglycerides to glycerol to fat. so glycerol is only a step away from fat)

also, bars frequently contain hydrolized geletan which is not a good protein source.

my opinion on protein bars is that they are a great treat or an option for food emergencies but not something to rely on as a regular food source. of course they're way better than junk food but lower quality than real food or protein powders/mrps.

just stuff to keep in mind as you determine how big a role bars play in your own eating.

**ZECH** · 10-01-2003, 01:36 PM

Generally bars are bad on a cut. Contain too much sugar and fat. Especially before a comp

**Tha Don** · 10-01-2003, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by ajustana
Also, how does one eat the dry oatmeal? Do you actually cook it in something first?

i'm intrigued too... just munch on some dry oats??

surely they would taste much nicer cooked in milk with a tiny bit of sugar on top

(thats what i'm seriously thinking of doing, had my oats with water today they were awful, and in a protein shake ain't much nicer)

**ajustana** · 10-01-2003, 02:52 PM

She replied saying to cook them in water. However, I've added Sweet-N-Low to my oatmeal in the past. That works out well.

**Jodi** · 10-01-2003, 02:55 PM

I always add Splenda to my oats as well.

**Tha Don** · 10-01-2003, 03:34 PM

I think i'll stick to cooking them in milk and with a bit of sugar on top

tap water is just gruesome!

**Jodi** · 10-01-2003, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by young d
I think i'll stick to cooking them in milk and with a bit of sugar on top

tap water is just gruesome!

Sort of defeats the purpose of using oats on a cut doncha think?

**loki** · 10-02-2003, 09:27 AM

i got to the point where cottage cheese and oats make me want to throw up all over mahself, mah roommates, the cat, couch and neighbor's front door. here's what i found on this site to do with them that makes them edible for me.

1/2 cup nonfat cottage cheese
1/2 cup quick oats or 1/3 quaker oats
4 egg whites
a little cinnamon

blend up. fry on skillet with pam. kinda tastes like pancakes if cooked thouroughly. i haaaaaaate cottage cheese now but i think these taste great. can't taste the oats either. i like putting about a tbl spoon or two of sugar/fat free low calorie syrup on top.

1 can tuna
1/2 cup quick oats or 1/3 quaker oats
2 egg whites
optional veggies (onions, peppers, etc...)

mix it all up thoroughly with a fork or spoon. fry on skillet with pam. kinda tastes like...well...shit...i dunno. not too shabby though. salsa or avocado with it tastes pretty good to me. at least now i can eat cottage cheese and oatmeal without making a mess over everything...

**Jodi** · 10-02-2003, 09:30 AM

I make those tuna burgers too but I add chopped pickles to mine.

They are awsome!

**loki** · 10-02-2003, 09:49 AM

hmm, haven't tried that. i like pickles in a tunafish sandwhich but have cut out bread so i've been making these tuna burgers...tuna burgers, heh...i'll have to try pickles. i ocassionally mix in jalepeno peppers. yummy.

**Tha Don** · 10-02-2003, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by Jodi
Sort of defeats the purpose of using oats on a cut doncha think?

so because i'm having oats with milk instead of water they are bad?

i'm sure it will make very little difference if any, i can't see how fat free milk is so bad

**BabsieGirl** · 10-02-2003, 10:17 AM

sounds good

**sentricyphen** · 10-02-2003, 11:14 AM

besides the obvious sugar content, there are all kinds of chemicals, and i hear that there is steroid content left in the milk from the cows which were given them. from all of this tests show that milk may raise your estrogen levels. and being a guy i dont think u want it

**Jodi** · 10-02-2003, 11:36 AM

12G Sugar per Cup of Milk - For cutting thats alot of sugar

**naturaltan** · 10-02-2003, 11:59 AM

What about boiled eggs ... right now I'm eating 6 egg whites and 2 whole eggs ... I'm assuming the same go for boiled eggs?

**Jodi** · 10-02-2003, 12:34 PM

Boiled eggs are fine.

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