too much whey protein?

kevin · 10-02-2003, 07:46 PM

Is there such a thing as too much whey protein? I usually have 2 shakes a day. I try to get as much protein from regular foods as i can, but it just doesnt seem like i'm getting enough.

**Jodi** · 10-02-2003, 07:49 PM

2 shakes a day is fine. Definately make sure the rest of your meals are real food. Thats what I do too. 2 shakes, 4 meals.

TheGreatSatan · 10-05-2003, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kevin
Is there such a thing as too much whey protein? I usually have 2 shakes a day. I try to get as much protein from regular foods as i can, but it just doesnt seem like i'm getting enough.

How much are you getting each day?

Tha Don · 10-05-2003, 05:53 AM

i have between 2 and 5 shakes a day, and i'm cutting right now

always 1 in morning and 1 before bed

then i might have another 1 at college if i'm in for the whole day and playing basketball

then when i do weight or intense C.V. i will have 1 pre and 1 post

iincrease your shakes if you can't get enough from other food sources, its either that... or your gonna struggle to make any decent progress if your not getting enough protein

peace

**Jodi** · 10-05-2003, 09:28 AM

Quote:

i have between 2 and 5 shakes a day, and i'm cutting right now

Why would you do this and starve your body of other nutrition like this.

**P-funk** · 10-05-2003, 09:33 AM

what kind of shales are you talking about?? Whey? MRP?

If you are havig 2-5 whey shakes i really hope you are mixing them with something to get enough cals and slow down protein absorbtion.

2 is okay, 3 IMO strarts pushing it and any more than that is ridiculous. They are called supplements because they rae supposed to supplement your daily diet....NOT REPLACE IT!!

Increase shakes is not the answer to making progress. I drink only one shake a day )post workout), cutting or bulking and the rest of my meals are whole foods. I have no problem getting in a lot of cals and I have no problem making progress.

oaktownboy · 10-05-2003, 09:53 AM

what do you have pre-workout?

oaktownboy · 10-05-2003, 09:53 AM

and before bed?

Just a guy · 10-05-2003, 10:04 AM

jesus... im drinking about 3 60 Gram whey protein shakes a day... I try to get like 400 g's of Protein

**P-funk** · 10-05-2003, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by oaktownboy
what do you have pre-workout?

Right now I have 2 scoops of Optimum whey and 1/2c of raw uncooked oats. After I am done with this mini 4 week cut and I get back from vegas and start my real precontest bulk I will probably switch to an MRP, maybe prolab lean mass matrix, or some whey and dextrose post workout....haven't decided yet.

Before bed I have 1.5c of 4% cottage cheese and some strawberries.

oaktownboy · 10-05-2003, 01:22 PM

haha so you do have 2 shakes a day..1 pre and 1 post

**P-funk** · 10-05-2003, 01:25 PM

what the hell are you talking about?? I have one shake post workout.....were did I say I have one preworkout?

oaktownboy · 10-05-2003, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by P-funk
Right now I have 2 scoops of Optimum whey and 1/2c of raw uncooked oats. After I am done with this mini 4 week cut and I get back from vegas and start my real precontest bulk I will probably switch to an MRP, maybe prolab lean mass matrix, or some whey and dextrose post workout....haven't decided yet.

Before bed I have 1.5c of 4% cottage cheese and some strawberries.

see you answered my pre-workout question with "I have 2 scoops of Optimum whey and 1/2c of raw uncooked oats."

**P-funk** · 10-05-2003, 01:30 PM

Right, that is one shake.......there is only 23g of protein and 110cals in 1 scoop of optimum. I need two scoops to make enough protein and cals. I don't know anyone that only uses one scoop of protein in their shakes.....see what I am talking about? two scoops=one shake.....if I were to have another shake I would have to take in another 2 scoops.

heeholler · 10-05-2003, 01:35 PM

One scoop of Optimun Whey has 23 grams protein which is why most people have 2 scoops per shake in order to get the proetein in them, so it is not 2 shakes, how do you figure it is 2??

heeholler · 10-05-2003, 01:36 PM

Ok. I'm a little late in response, I see you answered that already p-funk after I submitted response

oaktownboy · 10-05-2003, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by P-funk
Right, that is one shake.......there is only 23g of protein and 110cals in 1 scoop of optimum. I need two scoops to make enough protein and cals. I don't know anyone that only uses one scoop of protein in their shakes.....see what I am talking about? two scoops=one shake.....if I were to have another shake I would have to take in another 2 scoops.

ahh fuck it u don't get what i am saying

oaktownboy · 10-05-2003, 01:39 PM

i don't give a damn about the amount of scoops per shake..after the 2 scoops thing you went to PW..so i assumed the first part was pre workout get it?

**P-funk** · 10-05-2003, 03:27 PM

oh, well sorry, both scoops are post workout.....only one shake per day.....I still don't understand what you are trying to get at here?

Tha Don · 10-05-2003, 03:50 PM

he asked what do you have pre-workout?

you replied with ''i have 2 scoops of.......'', check the posts above

i just have 1 scoop when i consume my (whey) protein shakes, but i have 2-5 a day

*the 1 at breakfast is with oats

*the 1 at college is either on its own or with a bananna or some little snack like that

*the 1 pre workout is on its own

*the 1 post workout is with maltodextrin

*the 1 before bed is on its own

do i need to up these to 2 scoops each serving?

**P-funk** · 10-05-2003, 03:57 PM

Oh, LOL, I missed read his original post, I though he was asking what I have post workout. Pre w/o I eat a regular meal, whatever is scheduled.

As to whether you should add another scoop to your shakes.....How am I supposed to know. How much do you weigh? How much protein are you trying to take in daily? How much protein are you trying to take in at each meal? These are things that you need to set out for your own diet.

What I would add is something else to those shakes instead of drinking them straigh. You need to slow down the protein absorbtion. Whey digests to quickly.....It is not an all day protein.

Tha Don · 10-05-2003, 04:07 PM

any suggestions of things to add to my shakes?

i will replace my pre-workout shakes with a can of tuna and some wholewheat pasta or something, so that will cut 1 of them out

obviously i have maltodextrin in my post shake

i have oats with my breakfast shake.....

erm the 1 shake i have absolutely nothing with is the bedtime shake, i want something low carb before bed, so my body will burn fat instead of storing carb as fat

Darkkmind · 10-05-2003, 04:12 PM

I drink 3 shakes a day too. I go to school and work full time and that's the only way I can get enough protein

**P-funk** · 10-05-2003, 04:13 PM

Okay, here are some suggestions:

things to add to your shakes or eat with your shakes:
fats: flax seed oil, nuts, natural peanut butter
carbs: apple, oatmeal, strawberries

The before meal shake needs some fat or some fiberous carbs...why? The weigh is absorbed to quickly, you need something to slow it down so that you can stay in apositive nitrogen balance during your sleep (think an 8 hour fast....EEK!!). I suggest putting a tbsp. of flax in there. Or have some strawberries and natrual peanut butter. I like cottage cheese because it has casien protein in it which clots in your stomach and digests really slowly. You may want to get some casien or egg protein and mix a scoop of whey and a scoop of egg (that can get procey though). Some full fat cottage cheese is good though. Or put some natural peanut butter in the shake and eat an apple.

Tha Don · 10-05-2003, 04:25 PM

low fat cottage cheese with cucumber/herbs ok?

flaxseed capsules ok?

i'll try having them with my bedtime shake

**P-funk** · 10-05-2003, 04:32 PM

I don't like low fat cottage cheese because they remove the fat and replace it with other crap. Plus the fat is really going to help slow down absorbtion......Cottage cheese with a cucumber??lol...to each his own...lol......but that is okay.

Flax caps are okay but you need to take like 12-14 caps to equal one TBSP. of flax so they are not to cost effective.

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10-02-2003, 07:49 PM	#2
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,177 Photos: 1	2 shakes a day is fine. Definately make sure the rest of your meals are real food. Thats what I do too. 2 shakes, 4 meals.
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10-05-2003, 09:33 AM	#6
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,280	what kind of shales are you talking about?? Whey? MRP? If you are havig 2-5 whey shakes i really hope you are mixing them with something to get enough cals and slow down protein absorbtion. 2 is okay, 3 IMO strarts pushing it and any more than that is ridiculous. They are called supplements because they rae supposed to supplement your daily diet....NOT REPLACE IT!! Increase shakes is not the answer to making progress. I drink only one shake a day )post workout), cutting or bulking and the rest of my meals are whole foods. I have no problem getting in a lot of cals and I have no problem making progress.
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10-05-2003, 09:53 AM	#8
oaktownboy DEFINITION OF R@B Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: smog and fog Posts: 4,375	and before bed?
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10-05-2003, 05:53 AM	#4
Tha Don Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 3,826 Photos: 33	i have between 2 and 5 shakes a day, and i'm cutting right now always 1 in morning and 1 before bed then i might have another 1 at college if i'm in for the whole day and playing basketball then when i do weight or intense C.V. i will have 1 pre and 1 post iincrease your shakes if you can't get enough from other food sources, its either that... or your gonna struggle to make any decent progress if your not getting enough protein peace

10-05-2003, 10:04 AM	#9
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10-05-2003, 01:22 PM	#11
oaktownboy DEFINITION OF R@B Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: smog and fog Posts: 4,375	haha so you do have 2 shakes a day..1 pre and 1 post
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10-05-2003, 01:25 PM	#12
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,280	what the hell are you talking about?? I have one shake post workout.....were did I say I have one preworkout?
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10-05-2003, 01:30 PM	#14
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,280	Right, that is one shake.......there is only 23g of protein and 110cals in 1 scoop of optimum. I need two scoops to make enough protein and cals. I don't know anyone that only uses one scoop of protein in their shakes.....see what I am talking about? two scoops=one shake.....if I were to have another shake I would have to take in another 2 scoops.
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10-05-2003, 01:35 PM	#15
heeholler Mad As Toast Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Southwest Florida Posts: 2,811	One scoop of Optimun Whey has 23 grams protein which is why most people have 2 scoops per shake in order to get the proetein in them, so it is not 2 shakes, how do you figure it is 2??
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10-05-2003, 01:36 PM	#16
heeholler Mad As Toast Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Southwest Florida Posts: 2,811	Ok. I'm a little late in response, I see you answered that already p-funk after I submitted response
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10-05-2003, 01:39 PM	#18
oaktownboy DEFINITION OF R@B Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: smog and fog Posts: 4,375	i don't give a damn about the amount of scoops per shake..after the 2 scoops thing you went to PW..so i assumed the first part was pre workout get it?
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10-05-2003, 03:27 PM	#19
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,280	oh, well sorry, both scoops are post workout.....only one shake per day.....I still don't understand what you are trying to get at here?
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10-05-2003, 03:50 PM	#20
Tha Don Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 3,826 Photos: 33	he asked what do you have pre-workout? you replied with ''i have 2 scoops of.......'', check the posts above i just have 1 scoop when i consume my (whey) protein shakes, but i have 2-5 a day the 1 at breakfast is with oats the 1 at college is either on its own or with a bananna or some little snack like that the 1 pre workout is on its own the 1 post workout is with maltodextrin *the 1 before bed is on its own do i need to up these to 2 scoops each serving?

10-05-2003, 03:57 PM	#21
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,280	Oh, LOL, I missed read his original post, I though he was asking what I have post workout. Pre w/o I eat a regular meal, whatever is scheduled. As to whether you should add another scoop to your shakes.....How am I supposed to know. How much do you weigh? How much protein are you trying to take in daily? How much protein are you trying to take in at each meal? These are things that you need to set out for your own diet. What I would add is something else to those shakes instead of drinking them straigh. You need to slow down the protein absorbtion. Whey digests to quickly.....It is not an all day protein.
	http://pwtraining.blogspot.com/.....come and see what is on my mind! http://ivonneberkowitz.blogspot.com/....check out Ivonne's new blog! Optimum Sports Performance "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

10-05-2003, 04:07 PM	#22
Tha Don Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 3,826 Photos: 33	any suggestions of things to add to my shakes? i will replace my pre-workout shakes with a can of tuna and some wholewheat pasta or something, so that will cut 1 of them out obviously i have maltodextrin in my post shake i have oats with my breakfast shake..... erm the 1 shake i have absolutely nothing with is the bedtime shake, i want something low carb before bed, so my body will burn fat instead of storing carb as fat

10-05-2003, 04:12 PM	#23
Darkkmind Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 161	I drink 3 shakes a day too. I go to school and work full time and that's the only way I can get enough protein
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10-05-2003, 04:13 PM	#24
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,280	Okay, here are some suggestions: things to add to your shakes or eat with your shakes: fats: flax seed oil, nuts, natural peanut butter carbs: apple, oatmeal, strawberries The before meal shake needs some fat or some fiberous carbs...why? The weigh is absorbed to quickly, you need something to slow it down so that you can stay in apositive nitrogen balance during your sleep (think an 8 hour fast....EEK!!). I suggest putting a tbsp. of flax in there. Or have some strawberries and natrual peanut butter. I like cottage cheese because it has casien protein in it which clots in your stomach and digests really slowly. You may want to get some casien or egg protein and mix a scoop of whey and a scoop of egg (that can get procey though). Some full fat cottage cheese is good though. Or put some natural peanut butter in the shake and eat an apple.
	http://pwtraining.blogspot.com/.....come and see what is on my mind! http://ivonneberkowitz.blogspot.com/....check out Ivonne's new blog! Optimum Sports Performance "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

10-05-2003, 04:25 PM	#25
Tha Don Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 3,826 Photos: 33	low fat cottage cheese with cucumber/herbs ok? flaxseed capsules ok? i'll try having them with my bedtime shake

10-05-2003, 04:32 PM	#26
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,280	I don't like low fat cottage cheese because they remove the fat and replace it with other crap. Plus the fat is really going to help slow down absorbtion......Cottage cheese with a cucumber??lol...to each his own...lol......but that is okay. Flax caps are okay but you need to take like 12-14 caps to equal one TBSP. of flax so they are not to cost effective.
	http://pwtraining.blogspot.com/.....come and see what is on my mind! http://ivonneberkowitz.blogspot.com/....check out Ivonne's new blog! Optimum Sports Performance "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

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