eggs & cholesterol

Skib · 10-06-2003, 04:08 PM

i eat 3 whole eggs a day... so about 15-20 a week (don't always have them on weekends)

i was talking to my friend the other day who's in a health and nutrition program at the university of western ontario and she told me i shouldn't be eating that many whole eggs a day... according to her one shouldn't eat more than 4 whole eggs a week... that kinda caught me off guard as 4 a week seems like NOTHING...

she said my cholesterol levels are probably through the roof...

is she right? or should i not worry about it?

also, i'd appreciate some more info on cholesterol and how it affects your body...

could somebody clarify this topic for me?

thanks so much...

oaktownboy · 10-06-2003, 04:31 PM

3 whole eggs a day doesn't sound that bad..dunno..but in any case that is why we eat egg whites

**Jodi** · 10-06-2003, 04:42 PM

Eggs

BigBallaGA · 10-06-2003, 06:50 PM

egg whites are fine to consume in large proportions, the yolks are where the cholesterol is.

**Jodi** · 10-06-2003, 07:03 PM

There is nothing wrong with the yolk. I eat 2-3 a day myself for a few years now and my cholestorol is just fine.

BigBallaGA · 10-06-2003, 07:08 PM

thats because you are special,, hahahaha,,,

if you counter act the intake of cholesterol from eggs with things such as oatmeal and garlic it is advisable,,, otherwise consuming 2-3 yolks a day for most is not recommended.

**Jodi** · 10-06-2003, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigBallaGA
thats because you are special,, hahahaha,,,

if you counter act the intake of cholesterol from eggs with things such as oatmeal and garlic it is advisable,,, otherwise consuming 2-3 yolks a day for most is not recommended.

Did you read my link???

Who says 3 egg yolks a day is not recommended? Show me and make it good cuz I can argue this one til the day is done.

derekisdman · 10-06-2003, 08:20 PM

Who the freak knows, this guy say eggs are fine, another doctor will tell you not to eat more than 4 or so a week due to cholestrol. Just get it checked often and make sure it's reasonable.

oaktownboy · 10-06-2003, 09:07 PM

trusting the advice of doctors..a tricky thing

oaktownboy · 10-06-2003, 09:08 PM

especially for bodybuilders..that is

LongBiker · 10-07-2003, 05:17 AM

Skib,

Just have some blood work done to check your cholessterol, triglycerides, etc. Then you'll know where you stand.

Skib · 10-07-2003, 06:17 AM

aight

as for whites i eat those too, but there's twice the protein inside the yolk... plus some fat... i need SOME fat...

BigBallaGA · 10-07-2003, 07:06 AM

no there is not twice the protien inside of the yolk,,, whites is where the majority of the protein is. the yolks nuritional make up consists of mostly fat and cholesterol unlike the whites which are low of the latter and high in protein !

X Ring · 10-07-2003, 07:34 AM

hmm so the 5-7 whole eggs I eat per day probably isnt the best thing for me? Maybe I should really cut back on the yokes, but they taste so good! At least I will die happy, right?
Gary

**Jodi** · 10-07-2003, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigBallaGA
no there is not twice the protien inside of the yolk,,, whites is where the majority of the protein is. the yolks nuritional make up consists of mostly fat and cholesterol unlike the whites which are low of the latter and high in protein !

WRONG!!! The yolk has 3 G. Protein and the White has 3 G. protein. Making it a total of 6G Protein per egg.

Before posting advice you really need to learn the facts

XRing - Your fine with 5 eggs. Please read that link I posted above.

BigBallaGA · 10-07-2003, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jodi
WRONG!!! The yolk has 3 G. Protein and the White has 3 G. protein. Making it a total of 6G Protein per egg.

Before posting advice you really need to learn the facts

XRing - Your fine with 5 eggs. Please read that link I posted above.

CORRECT,,, with that said, the ratio of protein/fat is too high in the yolk. That is why eating whites is much better for protein intake. If you want high fat and cholesterol intake, by all means, do eat as many yolks as you please !!!

**Jodi** · 10-07-2003, 08:07 AM

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The Cholesterol Issue

Do eggs adversely effect cholesterol levels? Most people would answer "yes" without even thinking twice. However, this seems to be a popular misconception, not supported by the evidence, according to Dr. Donald J. McNamara, PhD, of the Egg Nutrition Center, in Washington, DC, who made a presentation entitled "The Impact of Egg Limitations on Coronary Heart Disease Risk: Do the Numbers Add Up?"

According to Dr. McNamara:

For over 25 years eggs have been the icon for the fat, cholesterol and caloric excesses in the American diet, and the message to limit eggs to lower heart disease risk has been widely circulated. The "dietary cholesterol equals blood cholesterol" view is a standard of dietary recommendations, yet few consider whether the evidence justifies such restrictions.
He notes that studies demonstrate that dietary cholesterol increases both LDL and HDL cholesterol with essentially no change in the important LDL:HDL cholesterol ratio.

For example, the addition of 100 mg cholesterol per day to the diet increases LDL cholesterol by 1.9 mg/dL, but that is accompanied by a 0.4 mg/dL increase in HDL cholesterol.

This, on average, means that the LDL:HDL ratio change per 100 mg/day change in dietary cholesterol is from 2.60 to 2.61, which is likely not even statistically significant and would probably have no influence on heart disease risk.

This helps to "…explain the epidemiological studies showing that dietary cholesterol is not related to coronary heart disease incidence or mortality," concludes Dr. McNamara.

For those to lazy to read the article here is an important part of it.

BigBalla - I want to see something backing up your advice here. IMO - you have no clue what you are talking about.

BigBallaGA · 10-07-2003, 08:17 AM

whats so hard to understand about what i am saying,,, i mean its pretty simple to me. if you want egg protein without fat or cholesterol eat the WHITES,, if you do not care about consuming cholesterol and fat eat the YOLKS.... if you want both, eat the whole egg !!!!! simplifico !!!!

**Jodi** · 10-07-2003, 08:20 AM

You are saying the yolk is bad and thats bull. The yolk provides health benefits and thats including the cholesterol. Again, you can't prove otherwise and you have no facts (and that doesn't mean the American Heart Association either).

You do know that we require fat in our diets don't you?

BigBallaGA · 10-07-2003, 08:28 AM

that fact that we all need fat in our diets is understood, and i will contend that there are much better fat sources than eggs. And no i am not saying that the yolk is entirely bad, infact the yolk contains all of the vitamins and most minerals. Therefore its great for the vitamin/mineral value, but with that the yolk also has high fat/cholesterol. By all means, if you have other means of containing your cholesterol levels by eating foods and counter act it, do eat whole eggs. But getting back to the original question of whether egg yolk will raise the cholesterol levels, and the answer is simply yes it will. because they are full of it !
If protein is what a person is after, it would be nutritionally sound to eat 2 whites rather than the whole egg, for the equal amount of protein but no fat or cholesterol !!!

**Jodi** · 10-07-2003, 08:33 AM

This is what you are not understanding. Dietary cholesterol and fat is different. Again, show me the facts.

The intake of dietary cholestorol and fats have little to no impact on your triglycerides or cholesterol.

Skib · 10-07-2003, 08:22 PM

i eat 3 whole eggs with my cup of egg whites for 2 reasons

1) adds flavour to the tasteless whites
2) 3 whole eggs = close enough to 10 g of fat... exactly the amount i should be eating with each meal... throw in a small bowl of oatmeal and booya... a nice healthy breakfast : )

or so i like to think!

**Jodi** · 10-07-2003, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skib
i eat 3 whole eggs with my cup of egg whites for 2 reasons

1) adds flavour to the tasteless whites
2) 3 whole eggs = close enough to 10 g of fat... exactly the amount i should be eating with each meal... throw in a small bowl of oatmeal and booya... a nice healthy breakfast : )

or so i like to think!

Its a perfect breakfast

Flex · 10-07-2003, 10:51 PM

so does a jumbo egg (8g of protein) have 4grms in the white and 4 in the yolk then?

i eat 4 jumbo egg whites a day (occasionally i'll throw in 1 yolk), 1 cup of oats (w/water), 1 cup skim milk and 3 pieces whole wheat toast...hows that for breakfast?

**Jodi** · 10-07-2003, 10:54 PM

Yes it does. I just checked for ya.

What are your goals?

sara · 10-07-2003, 11:02 PM

Wouldn't the egg yolks turn bad when you heat it at a certain temp?

**Jodi** · 10-08-2003, 07:20 AM

Why would you say that? Its a saturated fat.

sara · 10-08-2003, 05:05 PM

I read somewhere when you heat the eggs at a certain level the cholostroel would dissapear

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Skib Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 410	eggs & cholesterol BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com i eat 3 whole eggs a day... so about 15-20 a week (don't always have them on weekends) i was talking to my friend the other day who's in a health and nutrition program at the university of western ontario and she told me i shouldn't be eating that many whole eggs a day... according to her one shouldn't eat more than 4 whole eggs a week... that kinda caught me off guard as 4 a week seems like NOTHING... she said my cholesterol levels are probably through the roof... is she right? or should i not worry about it? also, i'd appreciate some more info on cholesterol and how it affects your body... could somebody clarify this topic for me? thanks so much...

10-06-2003, 04:31 PM	#2
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Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,147 Photos: 1	There is nothing wrong with the yolk. I eat 2-3 a day myself for a few years now and my cholestorol is just fine.
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BigBallaGA LA ISLA BONITA Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,363 Photos: 4	thats because you are special,, hahahaha,,, if you counter act the intake of cholesterol from eggs with things such as oatmeal and garlic it is advisable,,, otherwise consuming 2-3 yolks a day for most is not recommended.
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derekisdman RAWR! Elite Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,294	Who the freak knows, this guy say eggs are fine, another doctor will tell you not to eat more than 4 or so a week due to cholestrol. Just get it checked often and make sure it's reasonable.
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10-07-2003, 05:17 AM	#11
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10-07-2003, 06:17 AM	#12
Skib Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 410	aight as for whites i eat those too, but there's twice the protein inside the yolk... plus some fat... i need SOME fat...

10-07-2003, 07:06 AM	#13
BigBallaGA LA ISLA BONITA Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,363 Photos: 4	no there is not twice the protien inside of the yolk,,, whites is where the majority of the protein is. the yolks nuritional make up consists of mostly fat and cholesterol unlike the whites which are low of the latter and high in protein !
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10-07-2003, 08:17 AM	#18
BigBallaGA LA ISLA BONITA Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,363 Photos: 4	whats so hard to understand about what i am saying,,, i mean its pretty simple to me. if you want egg protein without fat or cholesterol eat the WHITES,, if you do not care about consuming cholesterol and fat eat the YOLKS.... if you want both, eat the whole egg !!!!! simplifico !!!!
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10-07-2003, 08:20 AM	#19
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,147 Photos: 1	You are saying the yolk is bad and thats bull. The yolk provides health benefits and thats including the cholesterol. Again, you can't prove otherwise and you have no facts (and that doesn't mean the American Heart Association either). You do know that we require fat in our diets don't you?
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10-07-2003, 08:28 AM	#20
BigBallaGA LA ISLA BONITA Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,363 Photos: 4	that fact that we all need fat in our diets is understood, and i will contend that there are much better fat sources than eggs. And no i am not saying that the yolk is entirely bad, infact the yolk contains all of the vitamins and most minerals. Therefore its great for the vitamin/mineral value, but with that the yolk also has high fat/cholesterol. By all means, if you have other means of containing your cholesterol levels by eating foods and counter act it, do eat whole eggs. But getting back to the original question of whether egg yolk will raise the cholesterol levels, and the answer is simply yes it will. because they are full of it ! If protein is what a person is after, it would be nutritionally sound to eat 2 whites rather than the whole egg, for the equal amount of protein but no fat or cholesterol !!!
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10-07-2003, 08:33 AM	#21
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,147 Photos: 1	This is what you are not understanding. Dietary cholesterol and fat is different. Again, show me the facts. The intake of dietary cholestorol and fats have little to no impact on your triglycerides or cholesterol.
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10-07-2003, 08:22 PM	#22
Skib Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 410	i eat 3 whole eggs with my cup of egg whites for 2 reasons 1) adds flavour to the tasteless whites 2) 3 whole eggs = close enough to 10 g of fat... exactly the amount i should be eating with each meal... throw in a small bowl of oatmeal and booya... a nice healthy breakfast : ) or so i like to think!

10-07-2003, 10:51 PM	#24
Flex FLEXecutioner Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pomping Iyuhn Posts: 6,278 Photos: 2	so does a jumbo egg (8g of protein) have 4grms in the white and 4 in the yolk then? i eat 4 jumbo egg whites a day (occasionally i'll throw in 1 yolk), 1 cup of oats (w/water), 1 cup skim milk and 3 pieces whole wheat toast...hows that for breakfast?
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10-07-2003, 10:54 PM	#25
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,147 Photos: 1	Yes it does. I just checked for ya. What are your goals?
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10-08-2003, 07:20 AM	#27
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,147 Photos: 1	Why would you say that? Its a saturated fat.
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10-08-2003, 05:05 PM	#28
sara cRaZy!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 6,304 Photos: 2	I read somewhere when you heat the eggs at a certain level the cholostroel would dissapear