Carb Cycling Sample Menus?

hardasnails1973 · 10-09-2003, 08:13 PM

listen to your body. Rule of thumb if you eat alot don;t shove down the next meal untill you feel ready you can handle the next ones. some times when i eat I may not eat for another 3-4 hours or more. Don't over do it and just listen your body

**Jodi** · 10-09-2003, 08:13 PM

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Originally posted by Calmdwn
Thanks Jodi. So then on no carb days, should i not eat any protein powder or cottage cheese since they have between 3-4g of sugar per serving. I know its not a lot, but enough servings and it could add up by the end of the day. Sorry, im compulsive so i have to ask the questions!

If thats the case i could see it being a real SOB getting 300-400g of protein with out a least a shake or two.

Of course. I eat cottage cheese every night and drink protein everyday regardless of what day it is, no, low or high carb day

**Jodi** · 10-09-2003, 08:15 PM

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Originally posted by _Aj
How far should I space meals out on High Carb day. And on High Carb day if I cannot make it the last meal of the day, what do you suggest I eat for the remainder of the day.

Awesone thread BTW. I am going to have my first High carb day in a few days I will post my results.

Do you mean spacing your carb meals? If thats the case then make sure the meal prior and after your workout is a carb meal. I also do a carb meal in my first day and then fit the 4th carb meal wherever I see fit

**Jodi** · 10-09-2003, 08:25 PM

BUMP FOR ROCK!!

TP states below and idea for bulking with carb cycling

Leslie · 10-09-2003, 08:35 PM

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Originally posted by Calmdwn
Thanks Jodi. So then on no carb days, should i not eat any protein powder or cottage cheese since they have between 3-4g of sugar per serving. I know its not a lot, but enough servings and it could add up by the end of the day. Sorry, im compulsive so i have to ask the questions!

If thats the case i could see it being a real SOB getting 300-400g of protein with out a least a shake or two.

Unless you are preparing for a show or competition, cottage cheese and powder consumption is ok. I would limit the cottage cheese with no more than 2 meals though.

Leslie · 10-09-2003, 08:36 PM

OOps we posted simultaneoulsy

_Aj · 10-10-2003, 12:12 AM

okay thanks so far for the info.

Bump on what should I eat following the carb meals as to start I am going to only have 2 post training maybe on prior.

For the one prior I find that I do better in the gym having FAT and Protein rather than a carb - sometime oatmeal is ok, but overall it protein that gives me the most amt of energy.

Also Hardasnails, me listen to my body is hard to do as can alot, I mean ALOT. It takes quite a bit to get me full, so I am going to try for 400g of carbs for that day spaced between 3 meals maybe 2.

But I really need to do a small bulk as I have been cuttin for too long. I know what work best for me and that is why I am really anticipating TP, next article.

Calmdwn · 10-10-2003, 07:17 AM

Ok, thanks Jodi & Leslie. I started this morning. I decided to start with no carb today and tomorrow. Then start a high, no, low, no cycle. Any objections to this plan? Cant wait to see the results!

**Jodi** · 10-10-2003, 07:18 AM

Looks good but why did you decide that instead of the 3 day cycle? High, low, no

Calmdwn · 10-10-2003, 07:34 AM

In the last year i have lost 70lbs. Last october i was 5' 11" 262lbs, and im now between 190-195lbs. I know the reason i got that heavy was gluttonous eating of all the wrong foods. But i know many people who ate as bad or worse then me, and they stayed fairly lean. So that leads me to believe i hold on to fat more easily then the average person. Thats why i chose the cycle i did. I could be way off the mark thinking this way, but that is my reasoning. Would you suggest i start with the hi, low, no?

naturalguy · 10-10-2003, 07:44 AM

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Originally posted by Calmdwn
Ok, thanks Jodi & Leslie. I started this morning. I decided to start with no carb today and tomorrow. Then start a high, no, low, no cycle. Any objections to this plan? Cant wait to see the results!

Since you asked about objections, I can't help but throw my 2 cents in................................

I do agree with carb cycling, only I would NEVER do a no carb day. What I don't agree with is following a 3 day schedule because your very low and no carb days will fall on training days, it is extremely counterproductive to train on a no or very low carb day.

The way I do it is on my non training days (for me monday, wed., friday) I do lower carbs and on my training days it is higher carbs timed around my workouts.

**Jodi** · 10-10-2003, 09:03 AM

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Originally posted by Calmdwn
In the last year i have lost 70lbs. Last october i was 5' 11" 262lbs, and im now between 190-195lbs. I know the reason i got that heavy was gluttonous eating of all the wrong foods. But i know many people who ate as bad or worse then me, and they stayed fairly lean. So that leads me to believe i hold on to fat more easily then the average person. Thats why i chose the cycle i did. I could be way off the mark thinking this way, but that is my reasoning. Would you suggest i start with the hi, low, no?

You are not alone. I hold fat more than the average as well. Bad genetics which I'm forced to live with.

I would try the Hi, low, no and then that gives you the opportunity to modify or tweak later and adjust the schedule as progress slows down.

Leslie · 10-10-2003, 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by naturalguy
Since you asked about objections, I can't help but throw my 2 cents in................................

I do agree with carb cycling, only I would NEVER do a no carb day. What I don't agree with is following a 3 day schedule because your very low and no carb days will fall on training days, it is extremely counterproductive to train on a no or very low carb day.

The way I do it is on my non training days (for me monday, wed., friday) I do lower carbs and on my training days it is higher carbs timed around my workouts.

I beleive he was referring to Jodi OR Leslie. I didnt see your name there. He is following Twin Peaks carb cycle NOT your way. So "your way" is different than the carb cycle, and since you have never done it, you cannot say what the no carb day is like. I train fine on no carb day, and even broke some personal records. The diet is written the way it is for a reason. I am getting really tired of reading your posts against the cycle or no carb days. There are many paths to success and YOUR way is not the only or best way for some to achieve it

Sorry for the rant, but my last nerve has been hit.

Now back to the cycle, I think you should start with the standard cycle and then add in more no days. Even if its only after 2 weeks. Adding in more no days is a great tweak. Why waste it in the begining? Your body has never done carb cycling, so the standard cycle should be productive.Its up to you

J'Bo · 10-10-2003, 10:33 AM

Les...people dont have to agree that carb cycling is good hun.
It doesnt mean that they are attacking you or your beliefs.

naturalguy · 10-10-2003, 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by Leslie

I beleive he was referring to Jodi OR Leslie. I didnt see your name there. He is following Twin Peaks carb cycle NOT your way. So "your way" is different than the carb cycle, and since you have never done it, you cannot say what the no carb day is like. I train fine on no carb day, and even broke some personal records. The diet is written the way it is for a reason. I am getting really tired of reading your posts against the cycle or no carb days. There are many paths to success and YOUR way is not the only or best way for some to achieve it

Sorry for the rant, but my last nerve has been hit.

Very interesting perspective Leslie, IF you were paying attention, I was not getting involved in this post, I was reading it and this person ASKED if anyone had any objections so I thought that since this is America and and open forum that people are allowed to voice their opinions I thought I would share my experience and help this person.

And you are correct I have never done a no carb day, I have done extremely low carb days and I have worked with bodybuilders that have done no carb days and I know that for a natural athlete that it is catabolic and you cannot train at your best.

I find it funny that when I give my opinion that I am attacked however what you and Jodi say is law. Why is that? Is it because you have a "moderator" title under your name? What qualifies you as a moderator?

J'Bo · 10-10-2003, 10:39 AM

i have done many no carb days before and i can tell you that they did work FOR ME...to get me lean, however i will not do them when i am trying to bulk again. JMO

ponyboy · 10-10-2003, 11:12 AM

Actually if you read the diet even the no carb days actually have some carbs involved (1 cup of veggies for 3 of the meals). Not that it's a lot...but there are some carbs involved (I think the diet recommends 50 calories per cup for fibrous veggies, meaning each serving is 12 grams...making 36 total).

Just to be a smartass

Leslie · 10-10-2003, 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by naturalguy
Very interesting perspective Leslie, IF you were paying attention, I was not getting involved in this post, I was reading it and this person ASKED if anyone had any objections so I thought that since this is America and and open forum that people are allowed to voice their opinions I thought I would share my experience and help this person.

This perosn directed his question to me or Jodi. In other words people who have used the plan HE chose to do. He was asking for objections of the cycle ORDER not whether no carb day was ok with you. You are certainly entitled to freedom, but if he has decided to follow the carb cycle, you advice does not comply, as you have nothing to do with this plan.

And you are correct I have never done a no carb day, I have done extremely low carb days and I have worked with bodybuilders that have done no carb days and I know that for a natural athlete that it is catabolic and you cannot train at your best.

Everyone is different. I am a natural body builder and while I lost body fat, I actually gained a lil LBM on this cut. For bulking or gaining mass, obviosly the carb cylce would need to be modified- and it is by adding more high days and less no, just for that reason.

I find it funny that when I give my opinion that I am attacked however what you and Jodi say is law. Why is that? Is it because you have a "moderator" title under your name? What qualifies you as a moderator?

Being a moderator doesn't me know it all by any means. Its our experienced opinions as well. This member obviously knows there are other options and has chosen to come to us for his advice because its a plan he would like to try. Instead of accepted this you tend to bash the plan and say its not the best option. Why can't you just accept when certain members wish to experiement with something that you don't agree with? These are exactly some reasons why people are NOT chosen to be a mod

hardasnails1973 · 10-10-2003, 12:06 PM

THink people need to take step back and understand the main reason that we are here "TO HELP MOTIVATE PEOPLE AND TO HELP THEM TO ACHIEVE THIER GOALS AND TO SHARE OUR EXPERINCES AND TO EDUCATE OUT SELFS AS WELL" NO PERSONS WAY IS EVER THE RIGHT WAY ... WHAT WORKS FOR ONE PERSON MAY NOT WORK FOR ANOTHER ...

hardasnails1973 · 10-10-2003, 12:12 PM

Leslie,
Most likely I will see you in about 3 weeks : )

Leslie · 10-10-2003, 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by hardasnails1973
Leslie,
Most likely I will see you in about 3 weeks : )

You gonna come and kick my ass?

Really? What's up?

hardasnails1973 · 10-10-2003, 12:17 PM

Gold's jersey

hardasnails1973 · 10-10-2003, 12:22 PM

I won't be at my peak. I'm 206 rigtht now in high 3% will be peaking for eastern USAS. My conditoinng is going to be insane !! just got to get the final week thing down and i'll be good to go. Going to do nabba in trenton next weekend for shits and giggles LOL

Leslie · 10-10-2003, 12:24 PM

Glad to hear your progress is going well. what is the date of the contest? Good luck

But I am not competing til Springtime

Calmdwn · 10-10-2003, 12:29 PM

Ok, thanks for the help everyone! Didnt realize there were people on the board from the Jersey area. Guess i havent been paying attention.

hardasnails1973 · 10-10-2003, 12:29 PM

Dear
I would never lay a hand on a woman i'm not that type of guy. but i am going to do some serious ass kicking other wise (on stage that is )

hardasnails1973 · 10-10-2003, 12:32 PM

oct 25 lakewood (same time as olympia)

10-09-2003, 08:13 PM	#31
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10-09-2003, 08:25 PM	#34
Jodi Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	BUMP FOR ROCK!! TP states below and idea for bulking with carb cycling
	Essence EFA

10-09-2003, 08:36 PM	#36
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	OOps we posted simultaneoulsy
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10-10-2003, 12:12 AM	#37
_Aj Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 119	okay thanks so far for the info. Bump on what should I eat following the carb meals as to start I am going to only have 2 post training maybe on prior. For the one prior I find that I do better in the gym having FAT and Protein rather than a carb - sometime oatmeal is ok, but overall it protein that gives me the most amt of energy. Also Hardasnails, me listen to my body is hard to do as can alot, I mean ALOT. It takes quite a bit to get me full, so I am going to try for 400g of carbs for that day spaced between 3 meals maybe 2. But I really need to do a small bulk as I have been cuttin for too long. I know what work best for me and that is why I am really anticipating TP, next article.
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10-10-2003, 07:18 AM	#39
Jodi Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	Looks good but why did you decide that instead of the 3 day cycle? High, low, no
	Essence EFA

10-10-2003, 07:17 AM	#38
Calmdwn Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 48	Ok, thanks Jodi & Leslie. I started this morning. I decided to start with no carb today and tomorrow. Then start a high, no, low, no cycle. Any objections to this plan? Cant wait to see the results!

10-10-2003, 07:34 AM	#40
Calmdwn Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 48	In the last year i have lost 70lbs. Last october i was 5' 11" 262lbs, and im now between 190-195lbs. I know the reason i got that heavy was gluttonous eating of all the wrong foods. But i know many people who ate as bad or worse then me, and they stayed fairly lean. So that leads me to believe i hold on to fat more easily then the average person. Thats why i chose the cycle i did. I could be way off the mark thinking this way, but that is my reasoning. Would you suggest i start with the hi, low, no?

10-10-2003, 10:33 AM	#44
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	Les...people dont have to agree that carb cycling is good hun. It doesnt mean that they are attacking you or your beliefs.
	....and thats my $.02

10-10-2003, 10:39 AM	#46
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	i have done many no carb days before and i can tell you that they did work FOR ME...to get me lean, however i will not do them when i am trying to bulk again. JMO
	....and thats my $.02

10-10-2003, 11:12 AM	#47
ponyboy Training Trainer Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Running around somewhere Posts: 2,608 Photos: 1	Actually if you read the diet even the no carb days actually have some carbs involved (1 cup of veggies for 3 of the meals). Not that it's a lot...but there are some carbs involved (I think the diet recommends 50 calories per cup for fibrous veggies, meaning each serving is 12 grams...making 36 total). Just to be a smartass
	Today I can do what others will not so that tomorrow I will do what others cannot. The difference between winners and losers is that winners do things that losers don't want to do.

10-10-2003, 12:06 PM	#49
hardasnails1973 www.Bodyfactoryllc.com Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pa Posts: 1,740	THink people need to take step back and understand the main reason that we are here "TO HELP MOTIVATE PEOPLE AND TO HELP THEM TO ACHIEVE THIER GOALS AND TO SHARE OUR EXPERINCES AND TO EDUCATE OUT SELFS AS WELL" NO PERSONS WAY IS EVER THE RIGHT WAY ... WHAT WORKS FOR ONE PERSON MAY NOT WORK FOR ANOTHER ...
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10-10-2003, 12:12 PM	#50
hardasnails1973 www.Bodyfactoryllc.com Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pa Posts: 1,740	Leslie, Most likely I will see you in about 3 weeks : )
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10-10-2003, 12:17 PM	#52
hardasnails1973 www.Bodyfactoryllc.com Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pa Posts: 1,740	Gold's jersey
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10-10-2003, 12:22 PM	#53
hardasnails1973 www.Bodyfactoryllc.com Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pa Posts: 1,740	I won't be at my peak. I'm 206 rigtht now in high 3% will be peaking for eastern USAS. My conditoinng is going to be insane !! just got to get the final week thing down and i'll be good to go. Going to do nabba in trenton next weekend for shits and giggles LOL
	EDIT: You need to place a link on your website to IronMagazine.com if you want to put a link in your sig.

10-10-2003, 12:24 PM	#54
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	Glad to hear your progress is going well. what is the date of the contest? Good luck But I am not competing til Springtime
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10-10-2003, 12:29 PM	#55
Calmdwn Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 48	Ok, thanks for the help everyone! Didnt realize there were people on the board from the Jersey area. Guess i havent been paying attention.

10-10-2003, 12:32 PM	#57
hardasnails1973 www.Bodyfactoryllc.com Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pa Posts: 1,740	oct 25 lakewood (same time as olympia)
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