Amount of Carbs and fat when bulking?

oaktownboy · 10-16-2003, 12:36 PM

screw the goddamn numbers..if u want it really simple eat every 2 hours...a mix of lean protein like chicken,turkey breast or tuna along with some complex carbs..oatmeal, brown rice, yams, sweet potatoes..and lots of water..oh yeah veggies like brocolli,carrots, whatever...is that good enough?

**dg806** · 10-16-2003, 12:38 PM

It is if you don't care what the outcome is.

oaktownboy · 10-16-2003, 12:42 PM

it can get downright agitating trying to write down all the numbers down when u eat 8 times a day...especially if they aren't packaged foods that give u the numbers...i just think the guy is making it harder for himself than it actually is

**dg806** · 10-16-2003, 12:50 PM

Probably so since he is bulking. But when you get to cutting for a contest, those numbers start to actually mean a lot when you try to find which macro works best for you!! You start to write down everything.

**Mudge** · 10-16-2003, 01:00 PM

I think I'd fly to 270 right quick on 6049 calories a day, nearly all fat of course.

**Mudge** · 10-16-2003, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dg806
It is if you don't care what the outcome is.

Exactly, random dieting is for people who are too lazy to learn the how and why of what makes thier body tick. I have said before I did the see-food thing, and I held entirely too much body fat that way.

**Mudge** · 10-16-2003, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by oaktownboy
it can get downright agitating trying to write down all the numbers down when u eat 8 times a day...

Write it down and eat the same damn things every day, problem solved. Or write down a specific meal and what other meal combo you can seperate for it, and etc etc, make flashcards if you have to.

Bodferret · 10-16-2003, 02:34 PM

Hello dg...
nice to see you are still replying, thanks for the calculations there you are probably right about the calories some of them where hard like the vacummed packed chicken. Yes this is what i started off on.
As i said i have looked at this and tuned it down , no more pork and vacummed packed foods.
Also i didnt put up my supplements, yes i do incorporate flaxseed oil concentrate tabs in my dietin the form of ,ALA, EPA and DHA acids but you mentioned omega 6 ,now i dont have that i must look into it .It works out @ 4000mg per day in the form of gelatin capsules.
I take milk thistle for the gear i.e d/bol , obviously flaxseed oil caps, multivitamins, vitamin C tabs 1000mg ed and 2 cod liver oil caps.

I have also included in my diet...
cottage cheese,
sweet potatoes,
corned beef,
salmon and haddock,
2 portions of veg each day,
3.5 litres of water per day,
sweetcorn for carbs.

In answer to your reply mudge i do lift steel all day and lay it for structural cages for foundations, so i am sweating like f**k everyday, so i would be burning a good third of this calorie intake. So the 5000 calories or so that i am consuming at the moment seems to be good for me as i use a lot in my workspace.

I will post my new diet up shortly when i work out my macros. I am thinking off going with 35%p 45%c 20%f until i finish the cycle....cheers again lads.

sentricyphen · 10-16-2003, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dg806
If you focus solely on grams, your calories will be way off.

hey what did you mean by this?

i always count g's not cals

Bodferret · 10-17-2003, 10:23 AM

sentricyphen....where is that posted m8

**dg806** · 10-28-2003, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sentricyphen
hey what did you mean by this?

i always count g's not cals

Then how do know if you are getting too many or too few calories?? Do add the number of calories per g for everything you eat?

sentricyphen · 10-29-2003, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dg806
Then how do know if you are getting too many or too few calories?? Do add the number of calories per g for everything you eat?

Nope. When you figure out your chart, you do this:
say you want to eat 3000 cals.
and want to eat 40%-30%-30%.

just multply each % by the cals.

you get:1200-900-900

these are your cals.

to calculate grams simply divided the carbs by 4, protein by 4, and fat by 9;since thats the ammount of cals per gram of ea. macronutrient.

10-16-2003, 12:36 PM	#31
oaktownboy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: smog and fog Posts: 4,387	screw the goddamn numbers..if u want it really simple eat every 2 hours...a mix of lean protein like chicken,turkey breast or tuna along with some complex carbs..oatmeal, brown rice, yams, sweet potatoes..and lots of water..oh yeah veggies like brocolli,carrots, whatever...is that good enough?
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10-16-2003, 12:38 PM	#32
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,270	It is if you don't care what the outcome is.
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10-16-2003, 12:42 PM	#33
oaktownboy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: smog and fog Posts: 4,387	it can get downright agitating trying to write down all the numbers down when u eat 8 times a day...especially if they aren't packaged foods that give u the numbers...i just think the guy is making it harder for himself than it actually is
	Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

10-16-2003, 12:50 PM	#34
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,270	Probably so since he is bulking. But when you get to cutting for a contest, those numbers start to actually mean a lot when you try to find which macro works best for you!! You start to write down everything.
	www.sbmuscle.com

10-16-2003, 01:00 PM	#35
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,027 Photos: 1	I think I'd fly to 270 right quick on 6049 calories a day, nearly all fat of course.
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10-16-2003, 02:34 PM	#38
Bodferret Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 41	Hello dg... nice to see you are still replying, thanks for the calculations there you are probably right about the calories some of them where hard like the vacummed packed chicken. Yes this is what i started off on. As i said i have looked at this and tuned it down , no more pork and vacummed packed foods. Also i didnt put up my supplements, yes i do incorporate flaxseed oil concentrate tabs in my dietin the form of ,ALA, EPA and DHA acids but you mentioned omega 6 ,now i dont have that i must look into it .It works out @ 4000mg per day in the form of gelatin capsules. I take milk thistle for the gear i.e d/bol , obviously flaxseed oil caps, multivitamins, vitamin C tabs 1000mg ed and 2 cod liver oil caps. I have also included in my diet... cottage cheese, sweet potatoes, corned beef, salmon and haddock, 2 portions of veg each day, 3.5 litres of water per day, sweetcorn for carbs. In answer to your reply mudge i do lift steel all day and lay it for structural cages for foundations, so i am sweating like f**k everyday, so i would be burning a good third of this calorie intake. So the 5000 calories or so that i am consuming at the moment seems to be good for me as i use a lot in my workspace. I will post my new diet up shortly when i work out my macros. I am thinking off going with 35%p 45%c 20%f until i finish the cycle....cheers again lads.
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10-17-2003, 10:23 AM	#40
Bodferret Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 41	sentricyphen....where is that posted m8
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