Thread: 6 Meals or 5

6 meals
Weight gainers/supplements

I sometime eat like 8 even when cutting. Eat as much as you can handle/ find convinient the more the better.

Originally posted by _Aj
I sometime eat like 8 even when cutting. Eat as much as you can handle/ find convinient the more the better.

As long as it's good healthy foods!

do you pre-pare your food?
as in, days in advance?
I will grill chicken or whatever for several days at a time, rice, etc..

I have no idea how many cals / ratio you need...thought about going to a nutricionalist?

Yeah....try to prepare your food a couple days in advance.

If you're wanting to lose weight....I'd only do 6 meals a day. If you find you're still hungry.....add more protein.

If you're drinking Soda...STOP IT!!!!
Be sure to drink at least 8 glasses of water a day. If you haven't been doing this before...the bathroom will become your BEST friend till your body adjusts.
Since you eat like crazy...Your weight should fall off pretty quickly...then you'll hit a hump/holding pattern...when you hit that...then adjust your diet.
do this


Eat six meals a day:
Meal 1
Protein
Carb
Fat
Water
Vitamin

Meal 2,4 & 5
Protein
Carb
Fat
Water

Meal 3 & 6
Protein
Carb
Fat
Veggie
Water

Choose from this list your PORTION of protein, Carb & Veggie from this list:



Protein:
Chicken Breast
Turkey Breast
Lean Ground Turkey
SwordFish
Orange Roughy
Haddock
Salmon
Tuna
Crab
Lobster
Cod
Shrimp
Top Round Steak
Top Sirloin Steak
Lean Ground Beef
Buffalo
Lean Ham
Egg White or Egg Substitutes
Low Fat Cottage Cheese

Carbohydrates:
Baked Potato
Sweet Potato
Yam
Squash
Pumpkin
Steamed Brown Rice
Steamed Wild Rice
Pasta (Measured)
Oatmeal
Barley
Beans
Corn
Strawberries
Melon
Apple
Fat-Free Yogurt
Whole Wheat Bread

Veggie:

Broccoli
Asparagus
Lettuce
Carrots
Cauliflower
Green Beans
Green Peppers
Mushrooms
Spinach
Tomato
Peas
Brussels Sprouts
Artichoke
Cabbage
Celery
Zucchini
Cucumber
Onions

i usually only eat about 5... if i have a 6th it's usually a bowl of cereal in the middle of the night (i know i'm bad)

my first meal is at 8 AM and i eat about every 3.5 hours...

8 AM
11:30 AM
3 PM
6-6:30 PM
9-9:30 PM

i'm not awake to eat a 6th meal...

i can't eat every 3 hours otherwise i'd be eating 3 meals at work alone... i don't think the boss would be too impressed with that as i'm already pushing it a little bit with my 2 meals... i'm only supposed to get 1 half hour lunch break...

I eat mine as scheduled and work........what do you do?

I eat 6...usually it's either 3 shakes and 3 whole food meals, or 2 shakes and 4 whole meals..I consume my last meal just prior to bed, and it's usually a 2 scoop shake, OR, 1cup ff cottage cheese with 2tbsp natty pb.

Damn.. just eat everything in sight... 4,000 calories +, 500 g's of protien. EVERYTHING!

If you want to put on mass then go with a minimum of 6 meals a day. Keep your carbs clean to help control fat gain and choose lean cuts of protein. Start with 2-300 cals above maintenance and shoot for 1.5-2 lbs gain a week. Don't forget EFA's such as Fish Oil. Please read the sticky at the top of this forum called Guide to Dieting.

Good Luck

meal 1 = 8:00 (breakfast)
meal 2 = 10:00-11:00
meal 3 = 12:30 (lunch)
meal 4 = 3:30-4:30
meal 5 = 5:00 (Pre-WO Shake of Whey and Oats)
meal 6 = 8:00 (Post-WO Shake of Whey and Maltodextrin)
meal 7 = 9:00 (dinner)
meal 8 = 10:00

Thats on a weights day, if its a CV day them pre-post shakes will change to just a post shake instead of meal 2 (as I do my CV after breakfast)

So I have 6-8 meals a day

Do you think i'm eating my dinner too late at 9:00 on weight days, on a non-weights day them last 2 meals will be ealier, but on a weights day coz i have changed gyms it takes much longer and i normally don't get back till that late

peace

oh, if i'm eating my dinner at 9:00 and I'm going to bed at like 10:30, do i still need take cup of cottage cheese at 10:00? or should I cut out my bed-time meal if i'm eating late?

I was thinking of adding a shake and some bran flakes to my bed-time meal too... would this be too much if its that late? or will it be okay because i've just been on the weights?

thanks

Originally posted by Jodi
If you want to put on mass then go with a minimum of 6 meals a day. Keep your carbs clean to help control fat gain and choose lean cuts of protein. Start with 2-300 cals above maintenance and shoot for 1.5-2 lbs gain a week. Don't forget EFA's such as Fish Oil. Please read the sticky at the top of this forum called Guide to Dieting.

Good Luck

Studies have shown that whether you are trying to gain mass or cut it really doesn't matter how many meals a day you eat, it is the calories at the end of the day. But for some it would be virtually impossible to eat like 1000K per meal.

But I totally agree w/ your post.

have you ever heard anyone say for extreme cutting to never eat fat and carbs in the same meal? I don't know why... but i read that it's supposed to help when you've got that last little bit to lose....

Originally posted by HoldDaMayo
have you ever heard anyone say for extreme cutting to never eat fat and carbs in the same meal? I don't know why... but i read that it's supposed to help when you've got that last little bit to lose....

I've heard of something like that. I don't buy it, but that is just my opinion. I think you should have some levels of all 3 (F, C, P) in each meal, maybe cutting back on the carbs towards the end of the day though...but, I'm not an expert...just offering a suggestion.

obviously you're not an expert.... to be called an expert, you have to never ever affiliate yourself with the word SPLOOGE...

It's a dead give away bro...

Hey, maybe I'm an expert in "sploogology" !!!

As far as the theory of not combining fats and carbs was first made popular but T-mag. The theory is excellent. Although while cutting it really would not make a difference as it comes down to total calories burned. But as for bulking you are taking in more cals that burning thus building muscle and storing fat. I think it would have favourable repartioning benefits. I don't mix the two, small qualities don't make a difference either.

Originally posted by _Aj
As far as the theory of not combining fats and carbs was first made popular but T-mag. The theory is excellent. Although while cutting it really would not make a difference as it comes down to total calories burned. But as for bulking you are taking in more cals that burning thus building muscle and storing fat. I think it would have favourable repartioning benefits. I don't mix the two, small qualities don't make a difference either.

I don't get what your sayin, you don't mix carbs and fats on a bulk?

I thought it was a cutting thing

for my afternoon meals i used to have a protein and carbs only meal (sandwich, pasta, oats)... then i'd have a protein and fats only meal... (fish, nuts and flax).... i read it from T-Mag too, i doubt it will make much of a visible difference if any, everything you eat has small quanities of p, c and f in anyway

peace

on a cut you can eat chocolate bars and still lose weight, as long as you are eating less than you are burning. But on a bulk that when macrontrient manupulation is more important.

Timbo, wrote a big explanation on a different board. I am going to try to find it.

Originally posted by _Aj
on a cut you can eat chocolate bars and still lose weight, as long as you are eating less than you are burning. But on a bulk that when macrontrient manupulation is more important.

Timbo, wrote a big explanation on a different board. I am going to try to find it.

I have to disagree with this statement. Sure, you will weigh less maybe, if you eat candy bars, but you will look like absolute shit. You will lose muscle mass (even more than you do on a cut anyway) and you will ADD fat.

Originally posted by Freeman
I have to disagree with this statement. Sure, you will weigh less maybe, if you eat candy bars, but you will look like absolute shit. You will lose muscle mass (even more than you do on a cut anyway) and you will ADD fat.

exactly

and the sugar from chocolate will mess up your blood sugar levels, apparently for fat loss its vital to keep them stable, so on a cut no sugary foods should be consumed (except post workout shake) IMO

peace

it is important to not screw up your blood sugar/insulin levels, especially on a cut.

first of all I never said that it is ideal. Secondly you will lose weight, I never said what that weight would be. Some Fat and some muscle, but you will lose wieght. And I don't think that you will add fat as your body will convert the fats and suger into energy. And yes I agree it will screw up you insulin levels.

I am not recommending it, just making a point that it comes down to total calories in vs. total cals out. There have been a few post by lyle stating that you ccan lose wieght on table suger.

I don't think it's that big a deal. 6 is optimum but 5 is more then acceptable.

But my point here is AJ, is that sure, you can lose weight, but if what the scale says doesn't jive with what the mirror says, then whats the point? If you drop 20lbs, from 220 to 200, but look like shit, then who cares?

I agree. But my point is that you will still lose weight. All I am trying to say is this:

It comes down to cals in vs cals out. If you eat 3 meals and eat more calories, that you burn you are going to gain, if you eat 6 you are still going to gain. Meal composition and timing doesn't play a big role as much as everybody thought once. With the exception of pre and post workout.

So getting back to the original question, if you eat 3, 4, 5, or 6 meals it is you total calories at the end of the day that are going to deciode if you put on weight or lose it.

Sorry for sidetracking you with the whole candybar thing but they are still calories.