Thread: Quick Carb Cycling Q

Protein should be eaten at every meal, regardless of the day. Sources like lean beef, salmon or other proteins containing higher fats should be limited to 2 melas per day. One does not really need to "count" protein grams, just be sure you are taking in at least 1-1.5g per pound of BW.

As for fat, it stays the same everyday- fish oils and 2 meals of "fattier protein" OR PB OR Flax.

I know the protein should be eaten with every meal, but I was wondering if I should save the fattier proteins for non carb meals. For example, is it ok to eat Oatmeal with whole milk cottage cheese? Or should I eat lowfat cottage cheese with oatmeal, and save the whole milk cottage cheese for a "protein only" meal?

It really doesnt matter or effect the cycle concept.

However, for hunger satisfying purposes-having the higher fat with the protein only meal will carry you longer without hunger pangs.

Alrighty, I get it. Thanks for the help.

Originally posted by Leslie
One does not really need to "count" protein grams, just be sure you are taking in at least 1-1.5g per pound of BW.

Originally posted by naturalguy

What is your question?

While you are on a low carb phase you should increase your healthy fat consumption to make up for some of the calories. I would suggest you stay clear of saturated fats & milk/cheese fats and eat more egg yolks, olive oil & flaxseed oil (natural sources).

Saturated fats raise T levels, I wouldn't avoid them, just don't overconsume one particular fat. Its all about balance

Originally posted by Leslie
What is your question?

My question is, don't protein calories count? Are you saying on this program that one could eat as much protein as they want?

Originally posted by naturalguy
My question is, don't protein calories count? Are you saying on this program that one could eat as much protein as they want?

Yes. That is what I said, as well as the article. I would think all the debates you raise about TP's carb cycle, you would have at least read the article to try and get some understanding of the diet before questioning it.

Originally posted by Leslie
Yes. That is what I said, as well as the article. I would think all the debates you raise about TP's carb cycle, you would have at least read the article to try and get some understanding of the diet before questioning it.

I read the article however I still know that if you take in more calories than you burn they will get stored as fat. So when the program claims unlimited protein and unlimited carbs (on high days) it doesn't make sense.

Originally posted by naturalguy
I read the article however I still know that if you take in more calories than you burn they will get stored as fat. So when the program claims unlimited protein and unlimited carbs (on high days) it doesn't make sense.

And your point? Or are you just intent on being a pain in the ass?

Originally posted by Twin Peak
And your point? Or are you just intent on being a pain in the ass?

My point is that these people are getting advice like you don't have to count the grams of protein that they take in.

Questioning something is being a pain in the ass?

My question was directed toward Leslie.

Originally posted by naturalguy
I read the article however I still know that if you take in more calories than you burn they will get stored as fat. So when the program claims unlimited protein and unlimited carbs (on high days) it doesn't make sense.

There is a question here?

There is no question here to anyone. There is a comment, with seemingly no point. If you have a point get to it, or else you are just being a pain in the ass.

Feel free to question or criticize me, or my article. Just make a point when you do so.

Originally posted by naturalguy


My question was directed toward Leslie.

Well I think TP replied in the same light I would have

P.S. If you actually read the article, and if you actually understood it, you would understand why I believe that "unlimited" protein (with this diet) and "unlimited" carbs (with this diet) at specific meals, works (in this context).

You can disagree with this all you want (you'd be wrong 98% of the time, but you can disagree). But to feign the inability to understand WHY it (shoudl) work (in this context) yet protest that you read and understood the article, without even addressing my reasons for permitting (indeed requiring) this, is not being critical, but rather being annoying.

And not annoying to me, but to those trying to utilize the diet for their benefit.

There was a question. Go back up look at my posts and look for the ?

Anyway, Leslie answered it, sort of. It was the standard answer of "read the article". It seems your followers don't know why they do things, they just do it because you say so.

Originally posted by Twin Peak
P.S. If you actually read the article, and if you actually understood it, you would understand why I believe that "unlimited" protein (with this diet) and "unlimited" carbs (with this diet) at specific meals, works (in this context).

Well being a follower with no clue about why I am doing such things, I just quoted directly from the article that you (NG) supposedly read.

ARTICLE:

Again, this is the minimum, so if you are still hungry eat up. Of course, like any other macronutrient, too much protein can hinder fat loss or even promote fat gain. This is another instance where I am putting some faith in the body’s sense of self-regulation. For the few of you who eat too much protein and fat loss stalls, you will want to limit total daily consumption to no more than 1.5 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight.


I think my 10 year old niece would be able to grasp the idea above.

So knowing all that, you still told this person that they don't need to count protein.

Originally posted by naturalguy
There was a question. Go back up look at my posts and look for the ?

The part of your comment I quoted originally, was where I asked whether you intended to be merely a pain in the ass.

And then you said if asking a question was being a pain in the ass. Please follow along, it makes things much easier.

Originally posted by naturalguy
Anyway, Leslie answered it, sort of. It was the standard answer of "read the article". It seems your followers don't know why they do things, they just do it because you say so.

Maybe the fact that she has used the diet to get in the best shape of her life givers her some credibility in this regard.

Besides, where in this thread did you ask WHY this is permitted, or HOW it works. No where.

Originally posted by naturalguy
So knowing all that, you still told this person that they don't need to count protein.

Uggg.

Are you really this thick? "This person" does not have to count protein unless and until fat loss stalls.

Self-regulation is the key. Please reread. The entire premise of the diet is the counting is not necessary.

Another question regarding diet. I eat a lot of canned tuna & chicken (maybe 1 to 2 cans a day), but these things consist of a high percentage of salt. Is their a daily limit to how much sodium we should intake?
Guess I'm just thinking I maybe retaining water.

No, I wouldn't worry about salt (unless blood pressure is a concern).

Salt actually is good when dieting as it promotes cell volume (and thus anabolism).

However, if you want to look good for a particular occasion, then drop/reduce salt a few days before.

Another question, just how full should I feel on High Carb Days. By the time I eat my protein, veggies, carbs, and small fruit I'm about to bust. Does this mean I'm eating to much? Just wondering how satisfied should I feel after eating on High carb meals.

Get in the protein and fruit and veggies, and then eat as much carbs as you want. Stop when you want.

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Get in the protein and fruit and veggies, and then eat as much carbs as you want. Stop when you want.

HEY TP Is it ok to eat colored veggies, as opposed to greens? Like colored peppers?(not carrots, high carb )

Peppers work.