protein into sugar

mit37 · 10-22-2003, 10:16 PM

i was reading that too much protein turns into sugar...is this tru and if so can it preventable....does it happen when ur on a low carb diet??

**Mudge** · 10-22-2003, 10:18 PM

It may happen, it may not. If you have fats or carbs in there it should not have to occur.

If you consume raw protein by itself, then it is likely to lose some yes.

HoldDaMayo · 10-22-2003, 10:18 PM

no... that's not true, protein doesn't turn into sugar... sugar turns into fat...

Protein is used then pissed away what's not...

**Mudge** · 10-22-2003, 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by HoldDaMayo
Protein is used then pissed away what's not...

Who told you that? Kick them in the ass.

The human body has the ability to convert protein to glucose for use as energy. However the human body does not have the ability that I know of.

You dont pee out protein, you dont pee out carbohydrates, you dont pee out fat - turn around and look at your backside to see where it comes out of.

HoldDaMayo · 10-22-2003, 11:23 PM

hmm... maybe im a bit mixed up... it's late... i think i might have mixed up protein with creatine.... doesn't creatine turn into creatinine or something and you piss it out... anyway... i'm not really familiar with protein turning into glucose... and how does that not affect your insulin levels... regardless... school me a bit on that protein into sugar crap....

**Mudge** · 10-23-2003, 12:25 AM

Creatine turns into creatinine yep. Protein can affect insulin levels, so can aspartame, and so can simply thinking about food.

_Aj · 10-23-2003, 04:52 AM

the conversion of protein into glucose is called glucosenisis(?sp) This usually occurs when too much protein is consumed and not enough fat or carbs. Protein can also cause insulin responses depending on the amt. taken in and the type, for instance whey is more more likely to cause and insulin response that tuna.

naturalguy · 10-23-2003, 05:48 AM

Correct your body can and will turn protein into glucose however this usually only happens when you don't take in enough carbs. There are people that go on no carb diets and think that they don't have any blood sugar in them and that they body will then just burn fat however the body is smarter than that.

Nigeepoo · 10-23-2003, 06:39 AM

I'm not stalking you NG, honest! The body can turn proteins, carbs and fat into body fat if eaten in excess. The carbon skeleton of proteins is used for glucose production in gluconeogenesis and also for fat production. The nitrogen part of proteins goes through the ornithine cycle and ends up as urea, which is peed out.

An excess of the wrong carbs raises serum insulin excessively, which is bad news (except after workouts). It also converts to pyruvate, then acetyl CoA, then fatty acids, then fat.

Dietary fat may or may not be stored as body fat, depending on insulin levels and the amount of fat. Some excess fat is excreted undigested. On low-carb diets, fatty acid consumption by muscles produces ketones which are then used by muscles, kidneys, nerves and brain. Excess ketones are also breathed and peed out.

HoldDaMayo · 10-23-2003, 09:35 AM

Thanks for the info guys... It's still churning in my brain right now...

So, just so I have this right... someone who isn't actively working out... and taking Whey protein can actually be adding more fat to his body?

_Aj · 10-23-2003, 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by HoldDaMayo
Thanks for the info guys... It's still churning in my brain right now...

So, just so I have this right... someone who isn't actively working out... and taking Whey protein can actually be adding more fat to his body?

Depends on many factors. How much is taken in, and the caloric expenditure for the rest of the day.

donescobar2000 · 10-23-2003, 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by naturalguy
Correct your body can and will turn protein into glucose however this usually only happens when you don't take in enough carbs. There are people that go on no carb diets and think that they don't have any blood sugar in them and that they body will then just burn fat however the body is smarter than that.

The good thing about glucosenisis is it takes energy to convert protien into glucose meaning you burn cals in the process.

10-22-2003, 10:16 PM	#1
mit37 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 104	protein into sugar i was reading that too much protein turns into sugar...is this tru and if so can it preventable....does it happen when ur on a low carb diet??
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10-22-2003, 10:18 PM	#2
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,997 Photos: 1	It may happen, it may not. If you have fats or carbs in there it should not have to occur. If you consume raw protein by itself, then it is likely to lose some yes.
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10-22-2003, 10:18 PM	#3
HoldDaMayo Just call me Mayo Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 1,917 Photos: 4	no... that's not true, protein doesn't turn into sugar... sugar turns into fat... Protein is used then pissed away what's not...
	Are you kidding me????

10-22-2003, 11:23 PM	#5
HoldDaMayo Just call me Mayo Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 1,917 Photos: 4	hmm... maybe im a bit mixed up... it's late... i think i might have mixed up protein with creatine.... doesn't creatine turn into creatinine or something and you piss it out... anyway... i'm not really familiar with protein turning into glucose... and how does that not affect your insulin levels... regardless... school me a bit on that protein into sugar crap....
	Are you kidding me????

10-23-2003, 12:25 AM	#6
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,997 Photos: 1	Creatine turns into creatinine yep. Protein can affect insulin levels, so can aspartame, and so can simply thinking about food.
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10-23-2003, 04:52 AM	#7
_Aj Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 119	the conversion of protein into glucose is called glucosenisis(?sp) This usually occurs when too much protein is consumed and not enough fat or carbs. Protein can also cause insulin responses depending on the amt. taken in and the type, for instance whey is more more likely to cause and insulin response that tuna.
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10-23-2003, 05:48 AM	#8
naturalguy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New York Posts: 489	Correct your body can and will turn protein into glucose however this usually only happens when you don't take in enough carbs. There are people that go on no carb diets and think that they don't have any blood sugar in them and that they body will then just burn fat however the body is smarter than that.
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10-23-2003, 06:39 AM	#9
Nigeepoo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Yateley, Hants, United Kingdom Posts: 223	I'm not stalking you NG, honest! The body can turn proteins, carbs and fat into body fat if eaten in excess. The carbon skeleton of proteins is used for glucose production in gluconeogenesis and also for fat production. The nitrogen part of proteins goes through the ornithine cycle and ends up as urea, which is peed out. An excess of the wrong carbs raises serum insulin excessively, which is bad news (except after workouts). It also converts to pyruvate, then acetyl CoA, then fatty acids, then fat. Dietary fat may or may not be stored as body fat, depending on insulin levels and the amount of fat. Some excess fat is excreted undigested. On low-carb diets, fatty acid consumption by muscles produces ketones which are then used by muscles, kidneys, nerves and brain. Excess ketones are also breathed and peed out.
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10-23-2003, 09:35 AM	#10
HoldDaMayo Just call me Mayo Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 1,917 Photos: 4	Thanks for the info guys... It's still churning in my brain right now... So, just so I have this right... someone who isn't actively working out... and taking Whey protein can actually be adding more fat to his body?
	Are you kidding me????

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