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  1. 01-24-2004, 08:21 PM #1
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    Question regarding calorie deficit...

    i have been in a long conversation with hardasnails about cutting. he suggests that i should up my cardio during cut, so that i can keep eating maintenance level cals, allowing the cardio to simply subtract off the entire ammount. this way you are "burning fat while feeding the muscle", he further recommended keeping cardio at 30 mins, 3 times a week.

    this sounds like a great idea to me, just wanted to hear some feedback.
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    I find that after some time ,depending on how much bodyfat you are trying to lose you will have to do cardio almost daily and/or create a calorie deficit also.Your body will resist the change in diet and cardio sooner or later,and you`ll most likely have to do more cardio or decrease cals to jump start the fat burning process.This happens to me anyway.If you are cutting up to compete and must come in with as low a BF% as possible you`ll most likely hit a sticking point at some time during your diet.
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    Originally posted by tjwes
    I find that after some time ,depending on how much bodyfat you are trying to lose you will have to do cardio almost daily and/or create a calorie deficit also.Your body will resist the change in diet and cardio sooner or later,and you`ll most likely have to do more cardio or decrease cals to jump start the fat burning process.This happens to me anyway.If you are cutting up to compete and must come in with as low a BF% as possible you`ll most likely hit a sticking point at some time during your diet.
    This seems to be great advice. Start with the smaller deficit with the cardio and when you get to a plateau like most do, then adjust accordingly. Always good to try your best to avoid starvation mode with smaller deficits.
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  5. 01-25-2004, 11:57 AM #4
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    does any one know if a 30 minute HIIT session would be too much?
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  6. 01-25-2004, 01:52 PM #5
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    30 minutes interval cardio as long as the intervals are about a 1:3 ratio should not eat up muscle provided proper nutrition requirements are dailiy intake.
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  7. 01-27-2004, 11:55 AM #6
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    cool. ive been doing them on the eliptical machine... it burns exactly 500 cals if done for 30 mins
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  8. 01-27-2004, 01:26 PM #7
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    Originally posted by sentricyphen
    cool. ive been doing them on the eliptical machine... it burns exactly 500 cals if done for 30 mins
    dont rely on those machines for an accurate level of caloires burned.. it varys on the person and their body composition and output, etc. Just get the cardio in and your set!
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  9. 01-29-2004, 10:59 AM #8
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    yeah your right about it depending on body comp... but it does take in your weight, age, and pulse. so i think it is pretty close.
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    Originally posted by atherjen
    dont rely on those machines for an accurate level of caloires burned.. it varys on the person and their body composition and output, etc. Just get the cardio in and your set!

    My PT says the same thing. He doesn't like the Elypticals.


    however I find I lose more using that machine. I don't use that machine just because it's more effective for me when dieting down, it's GREAT on the joints..............which is the only reason I use the Elyptical.
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    Originally posted by BabsieGirl
    My PT says the same thing. He doesn't like the Elypticals.


    however I find I lose more using that machine. I don't use that machine just because it's more effective for me when dieting down, it's GREAT on the joints..............which is the only reason I use the Elyptical.
    how about regarding the legs?; im sure it has to be easier on them than jogging/treadmill/bike. dont want to lose any quad size...
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    it depends on you.

    For me, I first lose fat here: Glutes, Chest & face.....Which is where I store alot of fat.

    Secondly I lose here: Abs, legs, back.....Arms is inbetween first and second. It's a gradual process......

    For you: it could be dif............

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    The stepper and eliptical tend to thicken the legs. Provinding your calories are prohibiting loss of LBM, you should be fine on the eliptical. Walking or biking is another option.
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  14. 01-29-2004, 11:26 AM #13
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    I agree... I don't really drop my calories much during a cut, just clean them up and do 3 30 minutes sessions of cardio a week...
    Are you kidding me????
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    Originally posted by BabsieGirl
    it depends on you.

    For me, I first lose fat here: Glutes, Chest & face.....Which is where I store alot of fat.

    Secondly I lose here: Abs, legs, back.....Arms is inbetween first and second. It's a gradual process......

    For you: it could be dif............

    Do you follow where I'm going with this?
    yeah i follow. i lose on the face stomach and glutes first. it always hardest to lose my love handles. they are there even @ 7%
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    Originally posted by HoldDaMayo
    I agree... I don't really drop my calories much during a cut, just clean them up and do 3 30 minutes sessions of cardio a week...
    hows the cutting going mayo? youve really shredded down huh?
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    Here are the results of a 7-8 week cut i finished a couple weeks ago... I'm actually bulking until april... and then I will be doing a serious cut for my trip to Hawaii...
    Are you kidding me????
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    Originally posted by HoldDaMayo
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    Here are the results of a 7-8 week cut i finished a couple weeks ago... I'm actually bulking until april... and then I will be doing a serious cut for my trip to Hawaii...
    wish my back was that thick.
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    Originally posted by sentricyphen
    yeah i follow. i lose on the face stomach and glutes first. it always hardest to lose my love handles. they are there even @ 7%

    I hear ya on the love handles..........
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    Originally posted by sentricyphen
    wish my back was that thick.

    Dont wish on it...........make it become a reality
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    Originally posted by BabsieGirl
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    What do you have up your sleeve?

    I was missing ya sister. Glad everything is okay.

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    Originally posted by BabsieGirl
    Dont wish on it...........make it become a reality
    Row row row your back...

    but seriously, I love any kind of rowing move for back...
    Are you kidding me????
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    Originally posted by HoldDaMayo
    Row row row your back...

    but seriously, I love any kind of rowing move for back...
    how many sets of rows do you do?

    right now im doing 3 sets of bent overs, and 3 sets of db rows
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    then again its not my lats that suck, i think i have more trouble with middle back and traps
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    i dow about 8-10 sets of varied grip rows... sometimes bent overs... sometimes DB rows... sometimes I use a vertical row machine... I try and vary my grips and focus and I also do closed grip lat pull downs... also I throw in some seated rows and really try and focus on middle back area...
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