Honey?

**DeadBolt** · 02-19-2004, 02:38 PM

I have read some of you guys use honey in your oats and such. I was just curious, it has alot of sugar and lots of you protest sugar. So is it like a good sugar such as the ones found in apples etc? I would just like to havge this knowledge under my belt and am very curious. Its been bothering me all day heh.

Also I am carb cycling and was wondering if it would be ok to throw a tablespoon or so into my oats in the morning? Or is this like a major no-no?

Thanks

**Jodi** · 02-19-2004, 02:39 PM

If you are cutting on carb cycling stay away from the honey.

**DeadBolt** · 02-19-2004, 02:41 PM

OK thanks. And the good sugar bad sugar thing?

**Jodi** · 02-19-2004, 03:00 PM

I personally don't find it any better than table sugar seeing its composition is mostly glucose and fructose. I know honey contains other and more disaccharides than table sugar but I'd have to do some research as to what they are. If I get the chance later I'll look into it.

**Nate** · 02-19-2004, 03:10 PM

Honey is good stuff. I'd say go for a teaspoon instead of a tablespoon, though. You're talking 20 calories and about 4-5 grams of carbs. Also, honey doesn't spike insulin or raise blood glucose as quickly as other simple sugars.

You're certainly better off with honey than you are with splenda, IMO.

**Jodi** · 02-19-2004, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by Nate
Honey is good stuff. I'd say go for a teaspoon instead of a tablespoon, though. You're talking 20 calories and about 4-5 grams of carbs. Also, honey doesn't spike insulin or raise blood glucose as quickly as other simple sugars.

You're certainly better off with honey than you are with splenda, IMO.

Not advisable if your cutting though. It still does raise blood sugar levels.

**Nate** · 02-19-2004, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by Jodi
Not advisable if your cutting though. It still does raise blood sugar levels.

Eh.

If you put a teaspoon in your Oats, the glycemic response to the added honey would be negligible.

GI is generally tested with 50 grams of a given carb, and most tests I've seen have found honey to be a moderate GI carb, in the 65-75 range. Now, if you just take a fivegram serving of said carbohydrate, the effects would barely be noticeable.

**Jodi** · 02-19-2004, 05:06 PM

Any glycemic response while cutting is a setback IMO.

**myCATpowerlifts** · 02-19-2004, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by Jodi
Any glycemic response while cutting is a setback IMO.

well no one can eat perfectly all the time, and i dont think any one should

5-6 carbs....gimme a break, what is that? 1 more minute of jogging or something? less

tho i agree if you eat just a little bit of this, a piece of that, maybe some extra of this on top

then it can set you back a lot, if you continually do it, but for one meal a day...a spoonful wont do shat

**Nate** · 02-19-2004, 06:27 PM

Originally posted by Jodi
Any glycemic response while cutting is a setback IMO.

That's a little extreme, I'd say.

**Jodi** · 02-19-2004, 06:31 PM

Think what you want but if I'm cutting, I want the fastest results possible and there will NEVER be a product that would cause a spike in my diet. If we stay away from sugar so much why in the world would we use honey instead? Because its natural - so isn't cane sugar but I would use that either. Also while cutting, any sugared products are going to make you continue to crave sugar - hence, more cheating.

hell, I wouldn't even use honey on a bulk - extreme - yup, that's me. :o

**Nate** · 02-19-2004, 06:41 PM

That's fine if you don't want to use honey. I think it's quite respectable. All I'm saying is, given this guy doesn't go overboard with it, a little honey will have essentially no impact on his diet, or anyone elses for that matter.

Also, can sugar doesn't have the same properties/qualities as honey, not even close...

**HoldDaMayo** · 02-19-2004, 06:43 PM

this thread made me laugh... it's classic Jodi... doin her thing...

**sara** · 02-19-2004, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by Nate
That's fine if you don't want to use honey. I think it's quite respectable. All I'm saying is, given this guy doesn't go overboard with it, a little honey will have essentially no impact on his diet, or anyone elses for that matter.

Also, can sugar doesn't have the same properties/qualities as honey, not even close...

If he can have a little honey now, then he is goning to ask for other sugar!!!
just skip the honey! go with blueberries instead

**DeadBolt** · 02-19-2004, 08:17 PM

Well thanks for all the replies, didn't think I would spark such an interest in everyone heh.

Originally posted by Nate
You're certainly better off with honey than you are with splenda, IMO.

True? I use splenda in my oats now, I use like 2 packs every morning. And sometimes at night with my FFCC, but other then that I don't really eat sugar. Should I squash the splenda as well? I have lots of work to do so I want to cut as much as possible because the time is tickin and I don't wanna be thick anymore heh.

**Nate** · 02-19-2004, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by DeadBolt
Well thanks for all the replies, didn't think I would spark such an interest in everyone heh.

True? I use splenda in my oats now, I use like 2 packs every morning. And sometimes at night with my FFCC, but other then that I don't really eat sugar. Should I squash the splenda as well? I have lots of work to do so I want to cut as much as possible because the time is tickin and I don't wanna be thick anymore heh.

Well, some people don't have a problem with Splenda, but I tend to frown on it's use. It's up to you, really. As far as keeping things optimal for maximum weight loss, I think you'd be better off just eating the oats plain.

You could try adding a little whey into your cottage cheese to enhance the flavor, I guess.

**Pepper** · 02-19-2004, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by HoldDaMayo
this thread made me laugh... it's classic Jodi... doin her thing...

And she's right on!

**Premo55** · 02-20-2004, 04:59 PM

Ugh, just use the Splenda. I use about 10 packs or more a day myself, and it has had no ill effects on my diet or appearance whatsoever. If that's what you need to retain your sanity while dieting, go ahead and don't even worry about it. I am proud to say that Splenda is probably the solitary thing (along with natural PB and three pieces of SF gum a day) that has allowed me to stay cheat-free for so damn long.

Peace.

**sara** · 02-20-2004, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by Premo55
Ugh, just use the Splenda. I use about 10 packs or more a day myself, and it has had no ill effects on my diet or appearance whatsoever. If that's what you need to retain your sanity while dieting, go ahead and don't even worry about it. I am proud to say that Splenda is probably the solitary thing (along with natural PB and three pieces of SF gum a day) that has allowed me to stay cheat-free for so damn long.

Peace.

just wondering how many grams of fake sugar does each splenda packet contain?

**donescobar2000** · 02-21-2004, 04:25 AM

Originally posted by HoldDaMayo
this thread made me laugh... it's classic Jodi... doin her thing...

Tell me about it.

**Nate** · 02-21-2004, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by Premo55
Ugh, just use the Splenda. I use about 10 packs or more a day myself, and it has had no ill effects on my diet or appearance whatsoever. If that's what you need to retain your sanity while dieting, go ahead and don't even worry about it. I am proud to say that Splenda is probably the solitary thing (along with natural PB and three pieces of SF gum a day) that has allowed me to stay cheat-free for so damn long.

Peace.

If you'd like to consciously ingest an obscene amount of chlorocarbons, you go right ahead and have your ten packs of Splenda a day.

Splenda would like you to think Sucralose isn't digested at all and it simply passes through your colon without assimilation. That's not true. It breaks down into something called 1,6-dichlorofructose, an untested mutagenic. Now, as someone who is trying to look his or her best and live a healthy life, which would you rather have?

The miniscule effects of a teaspoon of honey....?

or

Massive amounts of a carcinogenic substance floating around in your 1/16th of a pound lighter body?

Take your pick. I'm not trying to play the bad guy here. It's not as though I think any less of people who use boatloads of Splenda, or other artificial sweeteners, but it just breaks my heart to think that they try so hard to be fit and healthy yet they pollute their bodies on a daily basis with an unnatural, chemical substance.

Carry on.

**CowPimp** · 02-21-2004, 09:22 AM

Sugar definitely doesn't help when you cut. However, you have to let yourself live a little bit. I add honey and wheat germ to my yogurt to make it taste better (I buy plain and unsweetened yogurt). I somehow doubt that a tablespoon of honey once a day is going to have any kind of noticeable effect besides making eating those oats a more enjoyable experience.

**Stickboy** · 02-21-2004, 11:14 AM

Well, regardless if honey is good for you or not, I use it when I want something sweetened.

Regular sugar, splenda, etc are processed are they not?

Honey is not, at least not by man

. I buy my honey at a local bee farm. It's 100% raw natural honey. I try to avoid processed foods when I can, so for me.....honey gets the nod up instead of using artificial sweetners and regular processed table sugar.

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