arhghghg - I can't do a split (either one)

Trump · 03-21-2004, 11:14 PM

I am trying to get a 40/40/20 split

at the moment i keep working out to a ~38/27/35 split

Shooting for 2700 calories a day, I am on maintenance............

meal 1-
3 large hardboiled eggs
1/2 cup oats

meal 2-
1 can tuna oil packed
2 pieces bread 100% whole wheat

meal 3-
1/2 cup oats
1 can tuna oil packed

meal 4-
2 ground beef patties, 4 oz. each
4 slices bread 100% whole wheat

meal 5-
1 can tuna oil packed

greekblondechic · 03-21-2004, 11:25 PM

well for one, switching to tuna packed in water will help you lower your fats..then you can add some fat back in if its needed, as well as carbs and protein

Trump · 03-21-2004, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by greekblondechic
well for one, switching to tuna packed in water will help you lower your fats..then you can add some fat back in if its needed, as well as carbs and protein

hmm ok

I will buy tuna in water next week

whatelsewhatelsewhatelsewhatelsewhatelse

once was fat · 03-22-2004, 12:58 AM

Brown rice might get you to 40 for your carbs. What about protein powder. I would get sick of tuna 3 times a day. Plus your carbs is coming from only bread and oats. Apples, grapefruit, berries. What about your fiberous greens.

atherjen · 03-22-2004, 05:34 AM

how about dropping a couple egg yolks at breakfast and adding more more egg whites?
Id drop that bread and get in some brown rice or sweet taters and fruit. MUCH better for you.
as Greek said drop the oil packed tuna, and then add in some EFA's and green veggies!

Trump · 03-22-2004, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by atherjen
how about dropping a couple egg yolks at breakfast and adding more more egg whites?
Id drop that bread and get in some brown rice or sweet taters and fruit. MUCH better for you.
as Greek said drop the oil packed tuna, and then add in some EFA's and green veggies!

Playing around with teh fitday program (I purchased the desktop version) it is telling me:

Hard boiled egg: 233cal , 16F, 2C, 19P

Egg white cooked:16cal, 0F, 0C, 3P

It seems like an awful loss of protein and overall calories...... is this right?

What are some examples of EFA's? I am unsure.

Trump · 03-22-2004, 05:16 PM

also what is good protein powder... is it expensive? How much woudl it cost me per week

squanto · 03-22-2004, 07:05 PM

protein powder is very cheap. for 30 bucks i get a 6 pound bucket at gnc, which is 94 servings of 30g protein each. and gnc is expensive!

Trump · 03-22-2004, 10:24 PM

I just bought 10LB of alltheywhey vanilla isolate. Cost me $76.45 shipped usps priority 2/3 day mail.

it comes out to ~ $.48 per serving...

Jill · 03-22-2004, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trump
Playing around with teh fitday program (I purchased the desktop version) it is telling me:

Hard boiled egg: 233cal , 16F, 2C, 19P

What kind of eggs are you eating, ostrich eggs??

1 egg = 6.5P, 5F

Trump · 03-22-2004, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jill
What kind of eggs are you eating, ostrich eggs??

1 egg = 6.5P, 5F

I dunno, that's what fitday says.... I guess the program is wrong

this could very well be the reason I am so COMPLETELY and utterly confused between putting foods into it to test, then coming back and reading things on the boards...

Trump · 03-22-2004, 11:36 PM

Ok, here is my updated plan so far:

~2700 cal.

Meal 1:
1 cup skim milk
1 banana
28.5g alltheway isolate
2 tbsp peanut butter

Meal 2:
1 cup of mini pretzels
1 apple
2 hard boiled eggs

Meal 3:
1 can water packed tuna
1 orange
1 cups cooked oatmeal

Meal 4:
8oz chicken
3 cups broccoli ( or substitute other greens)
1 cup long grain brown rice cooked
1 cup skim milk
28.5g alltheway isolate

Trump · 03-22-2004, 11:42 PM

by the way, I really appreciate all the help so far

Stickboy · 03-23-2004, 12:26 AM

I personally think you need more veggies in there. Broccoli is good, but green leafy veggies are king (in my book, anyway).

I know alot of folks like corn, but it's not a veggie - it's a grain.

I'd add some veggies to each meal. (Maybe not breakfast, but all the others.)

Trump · 03-23-2004, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stickboy
I personally think you need more veggies in there. Broccoli is good, but green leafy veggies are king (in my book, anyway).

I know alot of folks like corn, but it's not a veggie - it's a grain.

I'd add some veggies to each meal. (Maybe not breakfast, but all the others.)

I could drop the oatmeal split the rice in 1/2 then add more veggies

I am on a college student budget, so I am trying to be as economical as possible while still getting a great nutritional balance

Trump · 03-23-2004, 01:47 AM

also, I have no clue on fiber intake

I have been reading up on psyllium but I don't want to take that supp... how am I looking, fiber wise?

atherjen · 03-23-2004, 06:02 AM

I still dont see any good EFA's.. or veggies.
not enough protein in meal 2.

Trump · 03-23-2004, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by atherjen
I still dont see any good EFA's.. or veggies.
not enough protein in meal 2.

Quote:

Originally posted by Trump
What are some examples of EFA's? I am unsure.

I don't know what EFAs are...

I will mess around and try to get more veggies in there.

03-21-2004, 11:14 PM	#1
Trump Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United States Posts: 293	arhghghg - I can't do a split (either one) I am trying to get a 40/40/20 split at the moment i keep working out to a ~38/27/35 split Shooting for 2700 calories a day, I am on maintenance............ meal 1- 3 large hardboiled eggs 1/2 cup oats meal 2- 1 can tuna oil packed 2 pieces bread 100% whole wheat meal 3- 1/2 cup oats 1 can tuna oil packed meal 4- 2 ground beef patties, 4 oz. each 4 slices bread 100% whole wheat meal 5- 1 can tuna oil packed "It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard is what makes it great."

03-22-2004, 12:58 AM	#4
once was fat Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: tucson az Posts: 692 Photos: 2	Brown rice might get you to 40 for your carbs. What about protein powder. I would get sick of tuna 3 times a day. Plus your carbs is coming from only bread and oats. Apples, grapefruit, berries. What about your fiberous greens. He who speaks least, think's most.

03-22-2004, 05:34 AM	#5
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	how about dropping a couple egg yolks at breakfast and adding more more egg whites? Id drop that bread and get in some brown rice or sweet taters and fruit. MUCH better for you. as Greek said drop the oil packed tuna, and then add in some EFA's and green veggies! " To dream anything you want to dream: That is the beauty of the human mind. To do anything you want to do: That is the strength of the human will. To trust yourself to test your limits: that is the courage to succeed." NPC Southern Classic, June 3rd NPC Cajun Classic, June 10th NPC Mississippi State July 22nd

03-22-2004, 05:16 PM	#7
Trump Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United States Posts: 293	also what is good protein powder... is it expensive? How much woudl it cost me per week "It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard is what makes it great."

03-22-2004, 10:24 PM	#9
Trump Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United States Posts: 293	I just bought 10LB of alltheywhey vanilla isolate. Cost me $76.45 shipped usps priority 2/3 day mail. it comes out to ~ $.48 per serving... "It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard is what makes it great."

03-21-2004, 11:25 PM	#2
greekblondechic I'm special :) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 7,791	well for one, switching to tuna packed in water will help you lower your fats..then you can add some fat back in if its needed, as well as carbs and protein

03-22-2004, 07:05 PM	#8
squanto Fitness Celebrity Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cheese Cottage Posts: 1,471	protein powder is very cheap. for 30 bucks i get a 6 pound bucket at gnc, which is 94 servings of 30g protein each. and gnc is expensive!

03-22-2004, 11:36 PM	#12
Trump Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United States Posts: 293	Ok, here is my updated plan so far: ~2700 cal. Meal 1: 1 cup skim milk 1 banana 28.5g alltheway isolate 2 tbsp peanut butter Meal 2: 1 cup of mini pretzels 1 apple 2 hard boiled eggs Meal 3: 1 can water packed tuna 1 orange 1 cups cooked oatmeal Meal 4: 8oz chicken 3 cups broccoli ( or substitute other greens) 1 cup long grain brown rice cooked 1 cup skim milk 28.5g alltheway isolate "It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard is what makes it great."

03-22-2004, 11:42 PM	#13
Trump Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United States Posts: 293	by the way, I really appreciate all the help so far "It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard is what makes it great."

03-23-2004, 12:26 AM	#14
Stickboy Rebel without a clue Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: NM Posts: 1,115	I personally think you need more veggies in there. Broccoli is good, but green leafy veggies are king (in my book, anyway). I know alot of folks like corn, but it's not a veggie - it's a grain. I'd add some veggies to each meal. (Maybe not breakfast, but all the others.)

03-23-2004, 01:47 AM	#16
Trump Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United States Posts: 293	also, I have no clue on fiber intake I have been reading up on psyllium but I don't want to take that supp... how am I looking, fiber wise? "It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard is what makes it great."

03-23-2004, 06:02 AM	#17
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	I still dont see any good EFA's.. or veggies. not enough protein in meal 2. " To dream anything you want to dream: That is the beauty of the human mind. To do anything you want to do: That is the strength of the human will. To trust yourself to test your limits: that is the courage to succeed." NPC Southern Classic, June 3rd NPC Cajun Classic, June 10th NPC Mississippi State July 22nd

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