Post workout Insulin spike question?

once was fat · 03-23-2004, 10:05 AM

I read in a magazine (YEH I KNOW) that a good post workout insulin spike would be 3 tablespoons of honey, 1 bananna, and a protein shake. Would this be a wise diet choice for an insulin spike. If so are all honey's created equal. Wich brand of honey or what type would everyone reccomend. Thanks in advance for this.

donescobar2000 · 03-23-2004, 10:40 AM

I would stick with Dextrose or Maltodextrin.

once was fat · 03-23-2004, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by donescobar2000
I would stick with Dextrose or Maltodextrin.

Can anyone recommend whole foods instead of supplements?

donescobar2000 · 03-23-2004, 11:55 AM

A potato and Eggwhites.

blest · 03-23-2004, 12:03 PM

donescobar hit the nail on the head. If you want something IMMEDIATELY, maltodextrin and quality Whey

once was fat · 03-23-2004, 04:15 PM

If going for an insulin spike is 15 minutes with in the window post workout.

**calalily1972** · 03-23-2004, 04:19 PM

Within 30-45 mins. PWO. And that goes for both high gi PWO meals or low gi PWO meals.

rockcrest · 03-23-2004, 04:26 PM

i'm confused...do you want a spike PWO or No?

once was fat · 03-23-2004, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jodi
Within 30-45 mins. PWO. And that goes for both high gi PWO meals or low gi PWO meals.

Whats better high gi or low gi posworkouts. Jodi is the bannana and honey ok for the high gi pwo.

once was fat · 03-23-2004, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rockcrest

i'm confused...do you want a spike PWO or No?

Yes post workout.

**calalily1972** · 03-23-2004, 04:30 PM

I do not find PWO spikes necessary for everyone. I DO NOT spike my insulin but I DO have my boyfriend spike his PWO. I am an endo/meso so I have no problem gaining LBM and I have no problem gain fat either

So I don't find it necessary for me to spike my insulin. I use whey and oats PWO.

My boyfriend is a pure ecto so he is a hard gainer. I do have him use some sort of dextrose or Smarties candies and whey PWO.

once was fat · 03-23-2004, 04:33 PM

Is the bannana and honey ok for pwo?

**calalily1972** · 03-23-2004, 04:37 PM

That's all fructose so no. Fructose will only increase liver glycogen. You want to fill muscle glycogen not just liver glycogen.

once was fat · 03-23-2004, 04:42 PM

AHHHHHHHHHH fuck I just bought a jar of honey and some dam bannanas. Oh well. I guess I will have a baked potato then unless there is something else that would be good.

**calalily1972** · 03-23-2004, 04:44 PM

You can always go get a big bag of Smarties candies ot Sweet Tarts. Those are pure Dextrose/Maltodextrin.

once was fat · 03-23-2004, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jodi
You can always go get a big bag of Smarties candies ot Sweet Tarts. Those are pure Dextrose/Maltodextrin.

How many would you eat?

**calalily1972** · 03-23-2004, 05:01 PM

Check this out as well before deciding to spike or not to spike.

http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=12&t=3235&hl=ode

Approx. 6 rolls.

gr81 · 03-23-2004, 05:06 PM

Have some cornflakes Once, those are pretty high on the GI list.

**Prince** · 03-23-2004, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by once was fat
Can anyone recommend whole foods instead of supplements?

a banana.

rockcrest · 03-23-2004, 05:21 PM

PWO Spike (Is PWO Spike really necessary???)

once was fat · 03-23-2004, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince
a banana.

Ok now Im really confused. One says bannana but one says no bannana.

Yanick · 03-23-2004, 07:41 PM

lol, this gets very confusing my friend. I used to be just like you once, until i realized that 90% of whats said on/about bb'ing is a theory/opinion. You have to research (the link jodi posted if fuckin awesome but can make your head hurt after a while) and weigh the pro's and con's of everything and remember that you have to decide what you do based on yourself not anybody else.

donescobar2000 · 03-23-2004, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by once was fat
Ok now Im really confused. One says bannana but one says no bannana.

I would not go for a banana since all it will do is fill liver glycogen. Go with a potato or white rice at that.

Yanick · 03-23-2004, 07:48 PM

what if you are bulking and your liver is already full of glycogen? I would tend to agree but for a different reason. If you are spiking insulin post w/o you want to get that blood glucose up ASAP, and fructose is not the sugar to do that (it has a lower GI because it needs to pass through the liver before getting to the blood)

OmarJackson · 03-23-2004, 10:52 PM

gatorade powder, grape juice, white rice, rice-cakes, and for the bulking people - rice crispie treats.

some people might look as rice crispie treats as being crazy, but most of the carbs in them come from high glycemic puffed rice, and not as much as you think from fructose. so for those hardgainers, or when you're on a bulk and just plain don't care, they can be a great way to spike your insulin and actually enjoy it.

**Prince** · 03-23-2004, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by donescobar2000
I would not go for a banana since all it will do is fill liver glycogen. Go with a potato or white rice at that.

huh?

we're talking about spiking insulin are we not?

a banana is almost pure glucose, what better way to spike insulin?

**calalily1972** · 03-23-2004, 11:53 PM

But for those trying to spike insulin a banana would still not be the best option.

A banana is high in fiber.

Oh and a banana is 65%glucose 45%fructose.

donescobar2000 · 03-24-2004, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince
huh?

we're talking about spiking insulin are we not?

a banana is almost pure glucose, what better way to spike insulin?

Yes we are but even if a banana is made of 65% glucose it is still not ideal for post workout.

Premo55 · 03-25-2004, 10:55 AM

Jodi, 65+45= 110%
You meathead
I'm just playing...hahah

Peace.

**calalily1972** · 03-25-2004, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Premo55
Jodi, 65+45= 110%
You meathead
I'm just playing...hahah

Peace.

- I meant 60/40

03-23-2004, 10:05 AM	#1
once was fat Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: tucson az Posts: 692 Photos: 2	Post workout Insulin spike question? I read in a magazine (YEH I KNOW) that a good post workout insulin spike would be 3 tablespoons of honey, 1 bananna, and a protein shake. Would this be a wise diet choice for an insulin spike. If so are all honey's created equal. Wich brand of honey or what type would everyone reccomend. Thanks in advance for this. He who speaks least, think's most.

03-23-2004, 10:40 AM	#2
donescobar2000 The Gym's Disciple Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Your girlfriend bedroom. Haha! Posts: 1,586 Photos: 7	I would stick with Dextrose or Maltodextrin. ]

03-23-2004, 11:55 AM	#4
donescobar2000 The Gym's Disciple Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Your girlfriend bedroom. Haha! Posts: 1,586 Photos: 7	A potato and Eggwhites. ]

03-23-2004, 04:15 PM	#6
once was fat Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: tucson az Posts: 692 Photos: 2	If going for an insulin spike is 15 minutes with in the window post workout. He who speaks least, think's most.

03-23-2004, 04:33 PM	#12
once was fat Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: tucson az Posts: 692 Photos: 2	Is the bannana and honey ok for pwo? He who speaks least, think's most.

03-23-2004, 12:03 PM	#5
blest Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 10	donescobar hit the nail on the head. If you want something IMMEDIATELY, maltodextrin and quality Whey

03-23-2004, 04:19 PM	#7
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	Within 30-45 mins. PWO. And that goes for both high gi PWO meals or low gi PWO meals.

03-23-2004, 04:26 PM	#8
rockcrest Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Providence Posts: 387 Photos: 5	i'm confused...do you want a spike PWO or No?

03-23-2004, 04:30 PM	#11
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	I do not find PWO spikes necessary for everyone. I DO NOT spike my insulin but I DO have my boyfriend spike his PWO. I am an endo/meso so I have no problem gaining LBM and I have no problem gain fat either So I don't find it necessary for me to spike my insulin. I use whey and oats PWO. My boyfriend is a pure ecto so he is a hard gainer. I do have him use some sort of dextrose or Smarties candies and whey PWO.

03-23-2004, 04:37 PM	#13
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	That's all fructose so no. Fructose will only increase liver glycogen. You want to fill muscle glycogen not just liver glycogen.

03-23-2004, 04:42 PM	#14
once was fat Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: tucson az Posts: 692 Photos: 2	AHHHHHHHHHH fuck I just bought a jar of honey and some dam bannanas. Oh well. I guess I will have a baked potato then unless there is something else that would be good. He who speaks least, think's most.

03-23-2004, 04:44 PM	#15
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	You can always go get a big bag of Smarties candies ot Sweet Tarts. Those are pure Dextrose/Maltodextrin.

03-23-2004, 05:01 PM	#17
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	Check this out as well before deciding to spike or not to spike. http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=12&t=3235&hl=ode Approx. 6 rolls.

03-23-2004, 05:06 PM	#18
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	Have some cornflakes Once, those are pretty high on the GI list.

03-23-2004, 05:21 PM	#20
rockcrest Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Providence Posts: 387 Photos: 5	PWO Spike (Is PWO Spike really necessary???)

03-23-2004, 07:41 PM	#22
Yanick Amor Fati Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 4,231	lol, this gets very confusing my friend. I used to be just like you once, until i realized that 90% of whats said on/about bb'ing is a theory/opinion. You have to research (the link jodi posted if fuckin awesome but can make your head hurt after a while) and weigh the pro's and con's of everything and remember that you have to decide what you do based on yourself not anybody else. "The greatest obstacle to knowledge is not ignorance but the illusion of knowledge." -Barry Marshall, Nobel Laureate

03-23-2004, 07:48 PM	#24
Yanick Amor Fati Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 4,231	what if you are bulking and your liver is already full of glycogen? I would tend to agree but for a different reason. If you are spiking insulin post w/o you want to get that blood glucose up ASAP, and fructose is not the sugar to do that (it has a lower GI because it needs to pass through the liver before getting to the blood) "The greatest obstacle to knowledge is not ignorance but the illusion of knowledge." -Barry Marshall, Nobel Laureate

03-23-2004, 10:52 PM	#25
OmarJackson Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 299	gatorade powder, grape juice, white rice, rice-cakes, and for the bulking people - rice crispie treats. some people might look as rice crispie treats as being crazy, but most of the carbs in them come from high glycemic puffed rice, and not as much as you think from fructose. so for those hardgainers, or when you're on a bulk and just plain don't care, they can be a great way to spike your insulin and actually enjoy it. Foreman_Rules could masturbate with one hand and finger his own anus with the other at the same time. he is proud of this fact.

03-23-2004, 11:53 PM	#27
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	But for those trying to spike insulin a banana would still not be the best option. A banana is high in fiber. Oh and a banana is 65%glucose 45%fructose.

03-25-2004, 10:55 AM	#29
Premo55 Mic Murderer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 1,059	Jodi, 65+45= 110% You meathead I'm just playing...hahah Peace. T DOT O.

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