takeing protein for breakfast

ugination87 · 03-23-2004, 09:14 PM

is taking a protein shake for breakfast a good thing?
for the last week i have been taking a protein shake (bananas lemon milk and protein) for breakfast and i wasnt sure if that will do something bad to my body.

**calalily1972** · 03-23-2004, 09:18 PM

Are you bulking or cutting?

ugination87 · 03-23-2004, 09:30 PM

im trying to cut

**calalily1972** · 03-23-2004, 09:37 PM

If your cutting then I would ditch the banana and the milk. Instead have your protein shake with water and don't forget some EFA's. You probably should also have some oats as well.

Bananas and milk both contain sugar. Sugar is not your friend when your cutting

ugination87 · 03-23-2004, 11:08 PM

hmm i see.. thanks.. and also what is EFA? haha sorry

**calalily1972** · 03-23-2004, 11:33 PM

Essential Fatty Acids

You can start by reading about EFA's and proper cutting diets in here. http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=21113 (Guide to Cutting, Bulking & Maintenance)

Good luck.

ugination87 · 03-23-2004, 11:56 PM

ok thanks alot

ugination87 · 03-24-2004, 12:20 AM

hmm the refeeds and leptin sounds interesting...

ugination87 · 03-24-2004, 12:24 AM

how do u find the calories and carbs of an item that is already prepared? like fast food?>

**Prince** · 03-24-2004, 09:26 AM

I think a little bit of "sugar" your first meal is desirable, even when cutting. First thing in the morning after you've been sleeping/fasting is a stressful time on the body. I would say either the banana or the milk, not both, your first meal is fine.

HoldDaMayo · 03-24-2004, 10:05 AM

I also use milk in my morning protein shake, along with oats...

**calalily1972** · 03-24-2004, 10:40 AM

All depends on your metabolism. The slower the metabolism the less sugar you should have so then that means you should leave out the banana and milk. If its fast then 1 or the other may not be too bad.

HoldDaMayo · 03-24-2004, 10:51 AM

very true... my mom can't have ANY sugar when she's trying to lose weight.. but i can still take in 30-40g and be very successful...

**Prince** · 03-24-2004, 11:19 AM

nope, a little sugar meal 1 for anyone, regardless of metabolism, is fine.

**calalily1972** · 03-24-2004, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince
nope, a little sugar meal 1 for anyone, regardless of metabolism, is fine.

To each his/her own but not everyone has your metabolism Prince and that's kind of presumptuous for you to think that its fine for everyone.

**Prince** · 03-24-2004, 12:03 PM

my point is we all need some simple carbs meal 1, it has nothing to do with metabolism.

**calalily1972** · 03-24-2004, 12:15 PM

Well alot of us here seem to manage just fine WITHOUT the simple carbs in Meal 1 and I mean ALOT of us. I don't think need is the word your looking for

And I feel metabolism plays a HUGE role in the NEED for simple carbs

**Prince** · 03-24-2004, 12:21 PM

when you first wake up you're in a fasted state, your body struggles, your brain demands sugar (glucose), the brain gets what it needs before all other organs...

**calalily1972** · 03-24-2004, 12:26 PM

Ecto's or Ecto-Meso's are in a struggling semi-catabolic state. Its is VERY unlikely and far fetched that an Endo or an Endo-meso is even close to that catabolic state. Therefore low gi carbs such as oats are an excellent choice for meal 1 especially those with a slower metabolism.

Vieope · 03-24-2004, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ugination87
is taking a protein shake for breakfast a good thing?

Why not ?
If it is in your caloric plan, go for it.

ugination87 · 03-24-2004, 05:27 PM

hmm these are all good tips thanks guys

Akateros · 03-24-2004, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ugination87
how do u find the calories and carbs of an item that is already prepared? like fast food?>

Here's a start:
Calorie King
However, whether or not you are eating sugar (I, too, wouldn't on a cut, but sugar is not my friend), I submit that eating fast food, or most ready-prepared food, isn't going to rip you terribly well.

03-23-2004, 09:14 PM	#1
ugination87 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 30	takeing protein for breakfast is taking a protein shake for breakfast a good thing? for the last week i have been taking a protein shake (bananas lemon milk and protein) for breakfast and i wasnt sure if that will do something bad to my body.

03-24-2004, 09:26 AM	#10
Prince IronMagLabs Owner Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 37,397 Photos: 356	I think a little bit of "sugar" your first meal is desirable, even when cutting. First thing in the morning after you've been sleeping/fasting is a stressful time on the body. I would say either the banana or the milk, not both, your first meal is fine. BOARD SPONSORS: MassNutrition.com - Discount Supplement Superstore IronMagLabs.com - Bodybuilding Nutrition AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders & Supplements CEMProducts.com - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclesProd.com - Steroids, Bodybuilding & Training Blog Maximizer.com - Maximum Strength for Maximum Performance MikeGetsRipped.com - The Original 'Get Ripped' Blog ProteinRoutine.com - Experiments in Healthy Living Follow on Twitter Join Facebook Group Befriend on Myspace

03-24-2004, 10:05 AM	#11
HoldDaMayo Just call me Mayo Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 1,917 Photos: 4	I also use milk in my morning protein shake, along with oats... Are you kidding me????

03-24-2004, 10:51 AM	#13
HoldDaMayo Just call me Mayo Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 1,917 Photos: 4	very true... my mom can't have ANY sugar when she's trying to lose weight.. but i can still take in 30-40g and be very successful... Are you kidding me????

03-24-2004, 11:19 AM	#14
Prince IronMagLabs Owner Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 37,397 Photos: 356	nope, a little sugar meal 1 for anyone, regardless of metabolism, is fine. BOARD SPONSORS: MassNutrition.com - Discount Supplement Superstore IronMagLabs.com - Bodybuilding Nutrition AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders & Supplements CEMProducts.com - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclesProd.com - Steroids, Bodybuilding & Training Blog Maximizer.com - Maximum Strength for Maximum Performance MikeGetsRipped.com - The Original 'Get Ripped' Blog ProteinRoutine.com - Experiments in Healthy Living Follow on Twitter Join Facebook Group Befriend on Myspace

03-23-2004, 09:18 PM	#2
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	Are you bulking or cutting?

03-23-2004, 09:30 PM	#3
ugination87 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 30	im trying to cut

03-23-2004, 09:37 PM	#4
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	If your cutting then I would ditch the banana and the milk. Instead have your protein shake with water and don't forget some EFA's. You probably should also have some oats as well. Bananas and milk both contain sugar. Sugar is not your friend when your cutting

03-23-2004, 11:08 PM	#5
ugination87 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 30	hmm i see.. thanks.. and also what is EFA? haha sorry

03-23-2004, 11:33 PM	#6
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	Essential Fatty Acids You can start by reading about EFA's and proper cutting diets in here. http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=21113 (Guide to Cutting, Bulking & Maintenance) Good luck.

03-23-2004, 11:56 PM	#7
ugination87 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 30	ok thanks alot

03-24-2004, 12:20 AM	#8
ugination87 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 30	hmm the refeeds and leptin sounds interesting...

03-24-2004, 12:24 AM	#9
ugination87 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 30	how do u find the calories and carbs of an item that is already prepared? like fast food?>

03-24-2004, 10:40 AM	#12
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	All depends on your metabolism. The slower the metabolism the less sugar you should have so then that means you should leave out the banana and milk. If its fast then 1 or the other may not be too bad.

03-24-2004, 12:03 PM	#16
Prince IronMagLabs Owner Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 37,397 Photos: 356	my point is we all need some simple carbs meal 1, it has nothing to do with metabolism. BOARD SPONSORS: MassNutrition.com - Discount Supplement Superstore IronMagLabs.com - Bodybuilding Nutrition AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders & Supplements CEMProducts.com - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclesProd.com - Steroids, Bodybuilding & Training Blog Maximizer.com - Maximum Strength for Maximum Performance MikeGetsRipped.com - The Original 'Get Ripped' Blog ProteinRoutine.com - Experiments in Healthy Living Follow on Twitter Join Facebook Group Befriend on Myspace

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03-24-2004, 12:15 PM	#17
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	Well alot of us here seem to manage just fine WITHOUT the simple carbs in Meal 1 and I mean ALOT of us. I don't think need is the word your looking for And I feel metabolism plays a HUGE role in the NEED for simple carbs

03-24-2004, 12:21 PM	#18
Prince IronMagLabs Owner Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 37,397 Photos: 356	when you first wake up you're in a fasted state, your body struggles, your brain demands sugar (glucose), the brain gets what it needs before all other organs... BOARD SPONSORS: MassNutrition.com - Discount Supplement Superstore IronMagLabs.com - Bodybuilding Nutrition AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders & Supplements CEMProducts.com - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclesProd.com - Steroids, Bodybuilding & Training Blog Maximizer.com - Maximum Strength for Maximum Performance MikeGetsRipped.com - The Original 'Get Ripped' Blog ProteinRoutine.com - Experiments in Healthy Living Follow on Twitter Join Facebook Group Befriend on Myspace

03-24-2004, 12:26 PM	#19
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	Ecto's or Ecto-Meso's are in a struggling semi-catabolic state. Its is VERY unlikely and far fetched that an Endo or an Endo-meso is even close to that catabolic state. Therefore low gi carbs such as oats are an excellent choice for meal 1 especially those with a slower metabolism.

03-24-2004, 05:27 PM	#21
ugination87 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 30	hmm these are all good tips thanks guys