Eggs - How much is too much?

Alaric · 03-29-2004, 11:08 PM

I'm currently consuming about 4-5 whole eggs, with 14-18 white eggs on a daily basis. Would you say this is too much?

I mix my eggs together, and just cook it on the frying pan. Sometimes I'll eat them sunny side up, but I prefer mixing them in before putting it on.

**Prince** · 03-29-2004, 11:15 PM

too much in regards to what? fat?

atherjen · 03-30-2004, 07:42 AM

well what are your current goals?
are you getting EFA's in your diet as well?

Akateros · 03-30-2004, 07:49 AM

Egg yolk fat in moderation is a good thing. The only difficulty with eggs is that next to nuts and dairy, their protein is about as allergenic as you can get. And overconsumption may sensitise you. (At which point, you might never be able to eat eggs again.) That'd be my major argument for spreading out your protein sources.

Alaric · 03-30-2004, 01:23 PM

Prince - Well not fat, just because I have it all planned out in my diet, but I was told by someone that eating so much eggs would be unhealthy for a 17 year old (chloestrol or something).

*shrugs*

atherjen - I'm bulking, I have my goals set with my diet. I get in 2 servings of flax everyday during the night.

Akateros - Overconsumption would sensitise me? Meaning my body would not be able to make use of the protein? I'm guessing by overconsumption you mean over the long run (several years)?

**Dale Mabry** · 03-30-2004, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by Akateros
And overconsumption may sensitise you. (At which point, you might never be able to eat eggs again.) That'd be my major argument for spreading out your protein sources.

When I was a kid, I started breaking out in a rash for no reason one day. I went to the doctors and they could find nothig wrong with me. A week went by and I kept getting worse and got flu-like symptoms as well. He asked about my diet and when I told him I was eating egg sandwiches 3 times a day he figured that I was now allergic to eggs, which I wasn't before. I didn't eat eggs for like a year and once I stopped eating them my symptoms cleared up instantly. I eat eggs now with absolutely no problem so I guess it can go away as well.

Akateros · 03-30-2004, 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by Alaric
Akateros - Overconsumption would sensitise me? Meaning my body would not be able to make use of the protein? I'm guessing by overconsumption you mean over the long run (several years)?

No, meaning you'd have allergic reactions -- hives like Dale's, or worse -- right up to anaphylactic shock. And they might decrease with lack of exposure, but then again they might not. Meaning you might never be able to eat eggs again, without breaking out into a rash or possibly dying.

Alaric · 03-30-2004, 05:33 PM

wow that's rough, what would I have to do to prevent this? Would you recommend me cutting down on my daily consumption:?

JerseyDevil · 03-30-2004, 05:41 PM

Yolks are high in saturated fat and cholesterol, but the yolks also contain lecithin and other good nutrients. That said, especially since you are consuming 14-18 egg whites day per day, I would cut back the whole egg consumption to 1 or 2 a day.

Vieope · 03-30-2004, 06:33 PM

What is the deal with you and eggs ?
There are a lot of other nice source of protein.
Anyway, I find it hard to believe that you will become eggs intolerant.

Akateros · 03-30-2004, 07:05 PM

Don't panic, Alaric. It's a slim chance; I'm just saying it exists. (An ex-amateur bodybuilder I work with is now allergic to chicken in all forms, for instance.)

It is possibly more likely if you have any other allergies. If you have any other allergic food reactions (to anything at all), or hayfever, etc., then you'd probably be better off trying harder to rotate your proteins. Once the immune system is already "on alert" as it were, it's more likely to jump on a stray and possibly hostile food molecule that it keeps seeing hanging around suspiciously alla damn time.

Then again, of course, there are guys who eat nothing but chicken and eggs and whey in huge quantities for years, and never react to any of it. Luck of the draw.

Alaric · 03-30-2004, 07:06 PM

JerseyDevil - I eat eggs twice a day, for breakfast, and at night. I usually eat 2 whole eggs for breakfast, and 9 egg whites.

Then as my last meal of the day I eat 3 whole eggs, and 9 more egg whites.

Vieope - Since you and JerseyDevil suggest I cut down, I can break that down to 3 whole eggs daily, and get the rest of my fats in from flax during my last meal. I try to get my daily protein sources from 4 different sources:
Whey Shake, Eggs, Chicken Breast, and Lean beef.

However, sometimes that's hard and I'll only get it from 3.

Vieope · 03-30-2004, 07:08 PM

Smart guy.

atherjen · 03-30-2004, 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by JerseyDevil
Yolks are high in saturated fat and cholesterol, but the yolks also contain lecithin and other good nutrients. That said, especially since you are consuming 14-18 egg whites day per day, I would cut back the whole egg consumption to 1 or 2 a day.

the saturated fat is minimal really. 1.5g/egg, not bad as long as you were watching it elsewhere. dietary cholesterol has also shown to have no effect on blood cholesterol levels.

Vieope · 03-30-2004, 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by Akateros
Don't panic, Alaric. It's a slim chance; I'm just saying it exists. (An ex-amateur bodybuilder I work with is now allergic to chicken in all forms, for instance.)

It is possibly more likely if you have any other allergies. If you have any other allergic food reactions (to anything at all), or hayfever, etc., then you'd probably be better off trying harder to rotate your proteins. Once the immune system is already "on alert" as it were, it's more likely to jump on a stray and possibly hostile food molecule that it keeps seeing hanging around suspiciously alla damn time.

Then again, of course, there are guys who eat nothing but chicken and eggs and whey in huge quantities for years, and never react to any of it. Luck of the draw.

I will look for more information about this.

Vieope · 03-30-2004, 07:11 PM

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Originally posted by atherjen
dietary cholesterol has also shown to have no effect on blood cholesterol levels.

You like that statement, don´t you ?

atherjen · 03-30-2004, 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by Vieope
I will look for more information about this.

he speaks the truth. its IS actaully very easy to develop a new allergy by eating the same foods everyday. practicing food rotation doesnt hurt.

atherjen · 03-30-2004, 07:14 PM

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Originally posted by Vieope
You like that statement, don´t you ?

no actually I don't. I just feel that I need to repeat myself so that ppl understand the difference. eggs are not bad. however to get more indepth read Mudge's post about how the fats in the yolk can be ozidized when cooked. interesting enough as well..

Vieope · 03-30-2004, 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by atherjen
no actually I don't. I just feel that I need to repeat myself so that ppl understand the difference. eggs are not bad. however to get more indepth read Mudge's post about how the fats in the yolk can be ozidized when cooked. interesting enough as well..

You are too serious

Alaric · 03-30-2004, 09:48 PM

Oh well thank you guys for the advice, I think I'm gonna have to end up rotating diets ever 4 weeks or so just to give the body some eating variation.

jadakris31 · 03-30-2004, 10:01 PM

i usually eat 3 egg whites for breakfast but i would like to throw in a yolk in there... everyday though... how bad?

atherjen · 03-31-2004, 06:35 AM

YES EAT THE YOLK!!!

supertech · 03-31-2004, 07:22 AM

Since we are on the subject, how many egg whites do you have to eat, to get 35-40 grams of protein?

Vieope · 03-31-2004, 07:23 AM

1 egg white = 8.3 g of protein.

supertech · 03-31-2004, 07:38 AM

Are you sure Vieope,the eggs i got in my fridge say 6grams,and thats the whole egg.

Vieope · 03-31-2004, 07:43 AM

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Originally posted by supertech
Are you sure Vieope,the eggs i got in my fridge say 6grams,and thats the whole egg.

Actually I am not sure anymore Fitday says 4g, I read in a book 8.3g and nutritional database says it is 5-6g.

**P-funk** · 03-31-2004, 07:48 AM

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Originally posted by atherjen
YES EAT THE YOLK!!!

Wow, it is kind of hot when you go to all caps and yell like that!!!!!!!

Vieope · 03-31-2004, 07:48 AM

Here Supertech I was wrong, it is 4g
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-001-02s0034.html
Change the "Serving size" to 1 large (33g).

supertech · 03-31-2004, 07:53 AM

Ok thanks Vieope,
Wow you got to have a dozen egg whites to get 36 grams.

atherjen · 03-31-2004, 08:20 AM

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Originally posted by P-funk
Wow, it is kind of hot when you go to all caps and yell like that!!!!!!!

one large egg white has 3.5g protein

03-29-2004, 11:08 PM	#1
Alaric Hungry Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 711	Eggs - How much is too much? I'm currently consuming about 4-5 whole eggs, with 14-18 white eggs on a daily basis. Would you say this is too much? I mix my eggs together, and just cook it on the frying pan. Sometimes I'll eat them sunny side up, but I prefer mixing them in before putting it on.

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atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	well what are your current goals? are you getting EFA's in your diet as well? " To dream anything you want to dream: That is the beauty of the human mind. To do anything you want to do: That is the strength of the human will. To trust yourself to test your limits: that is the courage to succeed." NPC Southern Classic, June 3rd NPC Cajun Classic, June 10th NPC Mississippi State July 22nd

03-31-2004, 06:35 AM	#22
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	YES EAT THE YOLK!!! " To dream anything you want to dream: That is the beauty of the human mind. To do anything you want to do: That is the strength of the human will. To trust yourself to test your limits: that is the courage to succeed." NPC Southern Classic, June 3rd NPC Cajun Classic, June 10th NPC Mississippi State July 22nd

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03-30-2004, 07:49 AM	#4
Akateros I read it someplace. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ontario Posts: 481	Egg yolk fat in moderation is a good thing. The only difficulty with eggs is that next to nuts and dairy, their protein is about as allergenic as you can get. And overconsumption may sensitise you. (At which point, you might never be able to eat eggs again.) That'd be my major argument for spreading out your protein sources.

03-30-2004, 01:23 PM	#5
Alaric Hungry Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 711	Prince - Well not fat, just because I have it all planned out in my diet, but I was told by someone that eating so much eggs would be unhealthy for a 17 year old (chloestrol or something). shrugs atherjen - I'm bulking, I have my goals set with my diet. I get in 2 servings of flax everyday during the night. Akateros - Overconsumption would sensitise me? Meaning my body would not be able to make use of the protein? I'm guessing by overconsumption you mean over the long run (several years)?

03-30-2004, 05:33 PM	#8
Alaric Hungry Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 711	wow that's rough, what would I have to do to prevent this? Would you recommend me cutting down on my daily consumption:?

03-30-2004, 05:41 PM	#9
JerseyDevil GO Buckeyes! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Southern, NJ Posts: 5,586	Yolks are high in saturated fat and cholesterol, but the yolks also contain lecithin and other good nutrients. That said, especially since you are consuming 14-18 egg whites day per day, I would cut back the whole egg consumption to 1 or 2 a day.

03-30-2004, 06:33 PM	#10
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,967 Photos: 10	What is the deal with you and eggs ? There are a lot of other nice source of protein. Anyway, I find it hard to believe that you will become eggs intolerant.

03-30-2004, 07:05 PM	#11
Akateros I read it someplace. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ontario Posts: 481	Don't panic, Alaric. It's a slim chance; I'm just saying it exists. (An ex-amateur bodybuilder I work with is now allergic to chicken in all forms, for instance.) It is possibly more likely if you have any other allergies. If you have any other allergic food reactions (to anything at all), or hayfever, etc., then you'd probably be better off trying harder to rotate your proteins. Once the immune system is already "on alert" as it were, it's more likely to jump on a stray and possibly hostile food molecule that it keeps seeing hanging around suspiciously alla damn time. Then again, of course, there are guys who eat nothing but chicken and eggs and whey in huge quantities for years, and never react to any of it. Luck of the draw.

03-30-2004, 07:06 PM	#12
Alaric Hungry Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 711	JerseyDevil - I eat eggs twice a day, for breakfast, and at night. I usually eat 2 whole eggs for breakfast, and 9 egg whites. Then as my last meal of the day I eat 3 whole eggs, and 9 more egg whites. Vieope - Since you and JerseyDevil suggest I cut down, I can break that down to 3 whole eggs daily, and get the rest of my fats in from flax during my last meal. I try to get my daily protein sources from 4 different sources: Whey Shake, Eggs, Chicken Breast, and Lean beef. However, sometimes that's hard and I'll only get it from 3.

03-30-2004, 07:08 PM	#13
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,967 Photos: 10	Smart guy.

03-30-2004, 09:48 PM	#20
Alaric Hungry Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 711	Oh well thank you guys for the advice, I think I'm gonna have to end up rotating diets ever 4 weeks or so just to give the body some eating variation.

03-30-2004, 10:01 PM	#21
jadakris31 jersey's here Join Date: May 2003 Location: nj Posts: 390 Photos: 1	i usually eat 3 egg whites for breakfast but i would like to throw in a yolk in there... everyday though... how bad?

03-31-2004, 07:22 AM	#23
supertech American BadAss Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,969	Since we are on the subject, how many egg whites do you have to eat, to get 35-40 grams of protein?

03-31-2004, 07:23 AM	#24
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,967 Photos: 10	1 egg white = 8.3 g of protein.

03-31-2004, 07:38 AM	#25
supertech American BadAss Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,969	Are you sure Vieope,the eggs i got in my fridge say 6grams,and thats the whole egg.

03-31-2004, 07:48 AM	#28
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,967 Photos: 10	Here Supertech I was wrong, it is 4g http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-001-02s0034.html Change the "Serving size" to 1 large (33g).

03-31-2004, 07:53 AM	#29
supertech American BadAss Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,969	Ok thanks Vieope, Wow you got to have a dozen egg whites to get 36 grams.