Are you enjoying the fat right now ?

**Vieope** · 04-23-2004, 10:30 AM

I am bulking, my body fat is increasing of course and I couldn´t care less I know everything is going away quite easy.
Do you have a problem with your body fat when bulking ?

**Jodi** · 04-23-2004, 10:52 AM

Yup - which is why I do mini cycles instead.

**topolo** · 04-23-2004, 10:56 AM

i think as we get older everybody has that problem

**rockcrest** · 04-23-2004, 11:19 AM

this is the first time i made an effort to bulk and yes i added some fat. i gained some good muscle though. gained around 15 pounds total. after next week i'll be slowly cutting back cals to prep for beach weather

**rockcrest** · 04-23-2004, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Jodi
Yup - which is why I do mini cycles instead.

how long do the mini cycles last? thanks.

**Premo55** · 04-23-2004, 01:31 PM

JOdi, how do you fluctuate between cuttign cals and bulking cals? It's quite a difference...does it not affect you personally?

Peace.

**Fit Freak** · 04-23-2004, 01:48 PM

I am trying to deal with this now....after my competition I have stopped training (3 weeks) and added a considerable amount of fat. I know it'll come off soon enough...when I get back to the gym, get the diet under control, etc......but I'm not ready for it yet. In the meantime I am trying to convince myself it's ok to have a little layer once and a while...especially if I feel better mentally...MUCH easier said than done...but at this point I refuse to go on another diet

Might have gotten off topic but nevertheless I needed to get it off my chest

**Prince** · 04-23-2004, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by Fit Freak
...after my competition I have stopped training (3 weeks)

why so long?

**sentricyphen** · 04-23-2004, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by Jodi
Yup - which is why I do mini cycles instead.

Whats the shortest you go?

I want to stay lean this summer, but still gain.

Am considering travelling from 10-11% during each cycle.

I think that should be about one month bulk, while gaining 1 lbs a week, and 2 weeks cut, also a lb a week.

**Jodi** · 04-23-2004, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by Premo55
JOdi, how do you fluctuate between cuttign cals and bulking cals? It's quite a difference...does it not affect you personally?

Peace.

I'm not sure what your asking.

I can eat alot when I have/want to and then when I'm cutting, I can restrict myself even though I'm starving all the time

**kvyd** · 04-23-2004, 02:21 PM

Yeah fitfreak why 3 whole weeks?

**Premo55** · 04-23-2004, 02:24 PM

Jodi, what I mean is, how do you do the transition from undereating to overeating? Do you do maintenance weeks in between these mini cycles? Surely you can't add a crapload of cals all of a sudden after a cutting week.

Peace.

**juicedbeachbum** · 04-23-2004, 02:39 PM

I'm Fat as fuck all winter, then ripped for the summer!!!

**aztecwolf** · 04-23-2004, 02:48 PM

yeah i don't want to do the all out bulk, i am trying to just gain as much mass as possible while still keepin the six pack. So far so good 20 lbs in under 4 months i still got the very visible six pack goin

**Fit Freak** · 04-23-2004, 02:51 PM

3 weeks...a long time...BUT my body was just very rundown...aching joints, letargic, EXAMS smack in the middle didn't help. First time I've taken even a week off in 6 years...since the beginning. I feel refreshed now..other than felling like a fatt tub-a shiat...I think it's back to the routine tomorrow.

Also...lifting just got so much like work after all the prep for the comp...I want it to be fun again...hopefully when I go back this weekend it will be

Iknow in the long run my body will thank me for the time off...maybe some of my nagging injuries will finally staw away for GOOD!

**Fit Freak** · 04-23-2004, 02:54 PM

One comment about the mini-cycle approach....if you're looking for maximal gains this is not my recommended means of achieving such results. If you want to make SOLID gains that are noticeable...you need to train and eat for added mass for at least a few months...otherwise most of the fluctuations are just maniulated glycogen and water weight.

While I do not deny you can make some gains...it isn't the best route...IMO. If you only need to make small changes to your physique then it could be fine. This is my opinion of course...I found when I finally allowed myself to add a little weight and actually avoid cutting right away I finally made significant gains in muscle.

**Prince** · 04-23-2004, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by Fit Freak
First time I've taken even a week off in 6 years...since the beginning.

Really?

I try and take one full week off from the gym every 3 months.

I admit that I only started doing this the last few years though, when I was younger I never took time off, I thought I was going to shrink!

**jaim91** · 04-23-2004, 04:51 PM

What's a mini cycle? And Jodi, why do you restrict so severly if you're starving? i thought that slows down one's metabolism? Don't you eat 6 meals a day?

**JLB001** · 04-23-2004, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by Jodi
I'm not sure what your asking.

I can eat alot when I have/want to and then when I'm cutting, I can restrict myself even though I'm starving all the time

I'm the same way! I love to eat!!! but when its time to get down to business, I just do it.

**sentricyphen** · 04-23-2004, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by Fit Freak
One comment about the mini-cycle approach....if you're looking for maximal gains this is not my recommended means of achieving such results. If you want to make SOLID gains that are noticeable...you need to train and eat for added mass for at least a few months...otherwise most of the fluctuations are just maniulated glycogen and water weight.

While I do not deny you can make some gains...it isn't the best route...IMO. If you only need to make small changes to your physique then it could be fine. This is my opinion of course...I found when I finally allowed myself to add a little weight and actually avoid cutting right away I finally made significant gains in muscle.

ugh. thats the last thing i need to hear

so tired of getting fat.

**aztecwolf** · 04-23-2004, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by Prince
Really?

I try and take one full week off from the gym every 3 months.

I admit that I only started doing this the last few years though, when I was younger I never took time off, I thought I was going to shrink!

i was the same way, i did this for about 4 years, not even taking days off during the week, luckily i have more so learned the ways

**Fit Freak** · 04-23-2004, 06:11 PM

Yeah...I know I should have taken more time off...just paranoid of anymore than 2-3 days. Things will differ now.

Sent....bulking doesn't have to make you fat....clean bulking is what I suggest long term anyway...you just carry a little more fat and stay that way for a prolonged period of time to actually GAIN muscle instead of adding and dropping water and glycogen.

**Jodi** · 04-23-2004, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by rockcrest
how long do the mini cycles last? thanks.

Typically, I would do 3-4 weeks depending on the progress.

**Jodi** · 04-23-2004, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by Premo55
Jodi, what I mean is, how do you do the transition from undereating to overeating? Do you do maintenance weeks in between these mini cycles? Surely you can't add a crapload of cals all of a sudden after a cutting week.

Peace.

I bulk ala Carb Cycling style

I didn't feel the change at all and my body adjust quite nicely as it's use to different calories amounts daily anyway. Other than being more hungry while cutting I enjoyed it

**Jodi** · 04-23-2004, 07:52 PM

Originally posted by Fit Freak
One comment about the mini-cycle approach....if you're looking for maximal gains this is not my recommended means of achieving such results. If you want to make SOLID gains that are noticeable...you need to train and eat for added mass for at least a few months...otherwise most of the fluctuations are just maniulated glycogen and water weight.

While I do not deny you can make some gains...it isn't the best route...IMO. If you only need to make small changes to your physique then it could be fine. This is my opinion of course...I found when I finally allowed myself to add a little weight and actually avoid cutting right away I finally made significant gains in muscle.

Depends on the person IMO!

I gained 10lbs since Oct. and bodyfat % remained the same. I don't think 10 pounds is too shabby if you ask.

**Jodi** · 04-23-2004, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by jaim91
What's a mini cycle? And Jodi, why do you restrict so severly if you're starving? i thought that slows down one's metabolism? Don't you eat 6 meals a day?

Yes, I eat 5-6 meals a day but when you are cutting you have to restrict yourself and your hungry. No way of avoiding that. I don't starve myself, trust me on that

**Jodi** · 04-23-2004, 07:54 PM

Originally posted by JLB001
I'm the same way! I love to eat!!! but when its time to get down to business, I just do it.

1 more month before I need to start

**Premo55** · 04-23-2004, 09:12 PM

*I* starve on No Carb days. So Jodi, if I decide to bulk all of a sudden and just switch my carb cycling plans overnight, my body will adjust well?

Peace.

**Jodi** · 04-23-2004, 10:53 PM

My typical cutting cycle - H/N/L/N then I started bulking at H/L/N/L/L/N/L - I don't need much to bulk

Of course I did increase it and later got rid of the 2nd No day and adding a High Day. I'm not saying it will work for everyone but I had NO problems switching at the drop of a hat.

**Premo55** · 04-24-2004, 01:00 AM

Ouch Jodi, High/No/Low/No sounds painful as hell. How long after the basic No/Low/High plan did you tweak to adding a second no day?

Your bulking plan looks like less food than my cutting plan, lol....

Peace.

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