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    protein or carbs?

    I'f i am a very active individual, weights/sports/cardio, the whole schpiell, and i need to increase my calories, what would be better to increase it with protein or carbs, i already get about 1.25-1.5 x bodyweight in protein, and as far as needing to eat more carbs for energy levels, that is not a problem
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    depends on what your goals are, fat loss or increasing LBM...

    why not increase your carb and fat intake if your protein consumption is sufficient ?
    I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.

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    yeah that is what i was thinkin i am in the gain lbm mode, i don't really feel like lookin like a skeleton with skin on again
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    Yup, up your carbs and healthy fats.

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    will this also help more with recovery? if i up the carbs
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    yes...keeping insulin levels low and constant will definetly help with recovery and muscle building

    what are your mains sources of carbs ?
    I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.

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    carbs include sweet potatoes, oatmeal, brown rice, some pasta maybe once every other week, lots of veggies, pears, apples, bananas, and cream of wheat
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    Quaker Quick Oats literfl ozcuppintquartgallontablespoonteaspoon 280 5 52 10
    Cereals, CREAM OF WHEAT, regular, dry, (wheat) cuptablespoon 320 1 66 9
    Blueberries, frozen, unsweetened cupQuantity not specified 40 0 9 0
    egg starter literfl ozcuppintquartgallontablespoonteaspoon 60 0 2 12
    cottage cheese- fat free literfl ozcuppintquartgallontablespoonteaspoon 160 0 14 26
    Whey protein serving 180 2 6 33
    Walnuts cup, NFScup, choppedcup, groundcup, in shell, edible yield (7 nuts)cup, shelled (50 halves)oz (14 halves)nutQuantity not specified 78 8 2 2
    Sweet Potato ozlbgramkg 348 0 83 6
    Ham - Deli Sliced ozlbgramkg 50 1 0 12
    Nuts, almond butter, plain, without salt added cuptablespoon 101 9 3 2
    Fiber One cupQuantity not specified 31 0 12 1
    Egg, white only, raw cuplarge egg whiteQuantity not specified 33 0 1 7
    Apple, raw cup, NFScup, quartered or choppedcup, slicedoz, with skin, yieldscrabapplelarge (3-1/4" dia) (approx 2 per lb)medium (2-3/4" dia) (approx 3 per lb)ringslicesmall (2-1/2" dia) (approx 4 per lb)thin sliceQuantity not specified 81 0 21 0
    Banana, raw cup, NFScup, mashedcup, slicedoz yieldsslicesmall (6" to 6-7/8" long)extra small (less than 6" long)medium (7" to 7-7/8" long)extra large (9" or longer)large (8" to 8-7/8" long)linear inchQuantity not specified 109 1 28 1
    Turkey - Breast Strips ozlbgramkg 360 2 0 84
    Rice - Brown literfl ozcuppintquartgallontablespoonteaspoon 185 1 38 4
    Beans - Black/canned literfl ozcuppintquartgallontablespoonteaspoon 120 1 23 7
    Cheese Kraft Fat Free Cheddar serving 15 0 1 3
    Pita - Whole Wheat serving 45 0 10 2
    Salmon - Canned serving 150 6 0 25
    Dressing Paul Newman Balsamic Vinagerette literfl ozcuppintquartgallontablespoonteaspoon 23 2 1 0
    Bread - Oroweat 100% whole wheat serving 30 0 7 2
    Totals 2798 40 378 249

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    hmmm didn't come out the way i wanted it to my fat was a little higher then the 40 grams, and i don't include all the veggies that i usually consume, such as lettuce, cucumbers, broccoli, red onions, tomatoes, celery, brussel sprouts
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    you may want to try out some true low GI complex carbs like red lentils and pearl barely. they both have a GI of around 25 and a GL of less than 5...
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    ^ Isn't hulled barley much more nutritious than pearled? They're both low GI, but hulled contains a LOT more minerals/phytonutrients/vitamins etc. Pearled barley is like the white rice of barley.

    I'm a huge barley fan. Barley kicks brown rice's ass.

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    it's slightly more nutritious but much harder to find...

    pearl barley isn't as good as hulled but any complex carbs with a GI of 25 and GL is 5 isn't too shaby...lol

    this is the order from best to "worst"

    whole barley
    hulled barley
    pearl barley
    barely flakes
    I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.

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    Re: protein or carbs?

    Originally posted by aztecwolf
    I'f i am a very active individual, weights/sports/cardio, the whole schpiell, and i need to increase my calories, what would be better to increase it with protein or carbs, i already get about 1.25-1.5 x bodyweight in protein, and as far as needing to eat more carbs for energy levels, that is not a problem
    if you're already getting that amount of protein, increase your carbs.

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    cool will do, i don't understand how people always say they can't get enough protein in their diet, today i went way overboard about 280-300 grams, and i could still eat more, i have trouble eating enough carbs
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    The best formula for any diet, with any goals, is as follows:

    1) Eat 1-1.5 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight.

    2) Get a sufficient amount of EFAs (30-60 grams, IMO).

    3) Make up the rest of your calories from quality carb choice. If you are dieting, or an endo, your carb consumption will be less than if you are bulking, or an ecto.

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    for the 30-60 grams of efa's do you still count fat in stuff like oatmeal, cause today i got ten grams of fat just from my oats?
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    Originally posted by aztecwolf
    for the 30-60 grams of efa's do you still count fat in stuff like oatmeal, cause today i got ten grams of fat just from my oats?
    I would count that. The fat in oatmeal is definitely "good" fat.
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    30-60 grams of fat is total fat, but the majority of it, particularly if you are in the lower end, should be EFAs.

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    cool, should i only get 30-60 grams of fat even if i am eating upwards of 3500 calories or should i up it a little more, is it better to go by a set amound or by % of calorories
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