HELP...Dry out without a Carb up?

**J'Bo** · 05-12-2004, 06:16 AM

So here is my question. I have never tried to tighten up and dry out without carbing up. What are your suggestions on how to approach this?

Cut veggies? with a mild diuretic?

Then what do i eat carbs with protein?

Fat loading works better for me then carbing but will it keep me dry?

Anyone have any suggestions?

**Vieope** · 05-12-2004, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by J'Bo
Anyone have any suggestions?

Yeah, move to Brazil.

**J'Bo** · 05-12-2004, 08:09 AM

what does that mean

**Vieope** · 05-12-2004, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by J'Bo
what does that mean

Nothing.. I knew that you were trying to move away from Canada.
Just one suggestion.

**Jodi** · 05-12-2004, 08:22 AM

Sodium loading

**Vieope** · 05-12-2004, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by Jodi
Sodium loading

Can you explain to me how to do that ?

**Jodi** · 05-12-2004, 08:35 AM

Not really, I've only done it once. I'm sure someone else with more experience could answer that.

**Vieope** · 05-12-2004, 08:52 AM

Thanks

**J'Bo** · 05-12-2004, 09:02 AM

so you sodium load and keep veggies?
then drop it all three days out?

**JLB001** · 05-12-2004, 09:10 AM

I do a sodium load as well.

**JLB001** · 05-12-2004, 09:16 AM

The way we do it is:

Week before add extra sodium to meals (keep meals the same as week before)
cut sodium on Wed. night meal.
No sodium Thur/Fri. Keep water intake high (2 gals) until Friday at 6pm, then cut to a sm. amount. Eat eggs up to Fri. am. (if you like eggs for am meal)

Eat two full meals Sat. before going on stage/photoshoot. but keep water down to only 4 oz.

What I did that morning is kinda weird...I had peanut butter cookies and Snackin Cake. Filled me out nicely. or you can do the 4 egg whites with sweet pot., 2 hours later more sweet potato, 1 hour before going on stage or shoot..2 rice cakes with honey and peanut butter.

If you have time, I would do a trial run to be sure things work for you.

**J'Bo** · 05-12-2004, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by JLB001
The way we do it is:

Week before add extra sodium to meals (keep meals the same as week before)
cut sodium on Wed. night meal.
No sodium Thur/Fri. Keep water intake high (2 gals) until Friday at 6pm, then cut to a sm. amount. Eat eggs up to Fri. am. (if you like eggs for am meal)

Eat two full meals Sat. before going on stage/photoshoot. but keep water down to only 4 oz.

What I did that morning is kinda weird...I had peanut butter cookies and Snackin Cake. Filled me out nicely. or you can do the 4 egg whites with sweet pot., 2 hours later more sweet potato, 1 hour before going on stage or shoot..2 rice cakes with honey and peanut butter.

If you have time, I would do a trial run to be sure things work for you.

The photoshoot is Friday, Saturday and Sunday so i dont want to carb load because i also have a show in 4 weeks. I have salt on everything now, but i just wanted to know if you would cut your veggies along with the salt cut?

**JLB001** · 05-12-2004, 09:40 AM

I kept my veggies.

Are you having just green beans? Frozen they do not have alot of sodium in them. 10 per serving or so.

**Premo55** · 05-12-2004, 10:08 AM

Yup, JLB is on point. I think Raisinettes and a little bit of red wine brings vascularity out very nicely before a shoot, though. Just don't get drunk or nothing.

Peace.

**J'Bo** · 05-12-2004, 10:10 AM

beans bloat me....i have broccoli and celery most of the time...on occasion brussel sprouts and spinach at lunch

i was thinking of salt loading til monday then cut til thursday night. no carbs mon-wed then potatoes wed night. thur have some steak and potatoes and rice (for a mini load) and same on the fri-sun. plus i called all the nutrition stores in the city and i cant get taraxatone

**JLB001** · 05-12-2004, 10:10 AM

She gets drunk...they might end up with nudie pics.

**J'Bo** · 05-12-2004, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by Premo55
Yup, JLB is on point. I think Raisinettes and a little bit of red wine brings vascularity out very nicely before a shoot, though. Just don't get drunk or nothing.

Peace.

on normal occasions 1/2 a glass would put me over so i am going to try niacin again...safer that way

**JLB001** · 05-12-2004, 10:12 AM

I'd leave the diet the same as what your eatting now. I did have sirloin steak the Friday night before, filled out nice from it. We didn't pull me off any of my carbs, kept those the same, only messed with the sodium. When you play with too much of it at once, you never know the outcome.

**J'Bo** · 05-12-2004, 10:25 AM

thanks alot jlb....btw those are my initials too

**JLB001** · 05-12-2004, 10:35 AM

I need to change mine, those were my married initial. JLN is the madien. Hmm..would stay that with Craig's too. hehe

**Jodi** · 05-12-2004, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by JLB001
The way we do it is:

Week before add extra sodium to meals (keep meals the same as week before)
cut sodium on Wed. night meal.
No sodium Thur/Fri. Keep water intake high (2 gals) until Friday at 6pm, then cut to a sm. amount. Eat eggs up to Fri. am. (if you like eggs for am meal)

Eat two full meals Sat. before going on stage/photoshoot. but keep water down to only 4 oz.

What I did that morning is kinda weird...I had peanut butter cookies and Snackin Cake. Filled me out nicely. or you can do the 4 egg whites with sweet pot., 2 hours later more sweet potato, 1 hour before going on stage or shoot..2 rice cakes with honey and peanut butter.

If you have time, I would do a trial run to be sure things work for you.

I had to sodium load for several weeks, and dropped sodium 3 days out. Also no carbs for 7 days.

**JLB001** · 05-12-2004, 12:49 PM

eww...I would have been the royal B with that one. I sowwy Ms. Jodi. Know that sucked big time.

**J'Bo** · 05-12-2004, 01:02 PM

i did the same thing....how did you handle it? i forgot my name a couple times. i will try it again. but i have never kept my veggies in :hum:

**Jodi** · 05-12-2004, 01:11 PM

Jodie & J'Bo- I was bad for the first 3 days then I was just so drained I didn't care. The sodium loading scared the shit out of me though. Poor TP

I was bitching to him everyday because I was afraid I wasn't going to dry out in time because of holding the water from the sodium. Well, I did and I was dry!

**JLB001** · 05-12-2004, 01:13 PM

Longest I have gone with no carb is 3 days...that was plenty for me. Felt like a walking zombie.

**J'Bo** · 05-12-2004, 01:17 PM

i was the same way first 3 were nuts then i did not remember the 3-6 and 7th i was just unconscious

did you still have veggies jodi?

**JLB001** · 05-12-2004, 01:39 PM

I had some oats, but only like a 1/2 packageand half of a 4 oz spud. . then everything else was green beans and boiled chicken. Nasty stuff! I swear I never want boiled no seasoned chicken again.

**Jodi** · 05-12-2004, 01:48 PM

I had lettuce & broccoli during that 7 day carb deplete.

**Fit Freak** · 05-12-2004, 03:06 PM

I wouldn't recommend sodium loading...if so make sure you drop it about 48 hrs prior....any earlier and you will rebound.

Jenny...I have a good article I can send you but I'm at work now.

Personally I think you can get VERY VERY dry with high protein, low sodium, keep the greens, and drink about 10 L of water a day until 5pm for a noon photoshott the next day...you'll be tight as shit that way

**J'Bo** · 05-12-2004, 03:16 PM

thanks ff.
i cant do the 10L i tried a couple of years ago and actually got sick and passed out.
plus the photoshoot is three days so i need lotsa energy and liquids.
i am DESPERATELY trying to get some taraxatone but it doesnt look like its gonna get here in time.

i do a salt load before every comp and it seems to work well because i normally eat tonnes of salt....for the past 2 months.
i am NOT looking forward to the no salt

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