carbs lifting and timing?

**DeadBolt** · 06-04-2004, 01:11 PM

I was just going over my new schedual that I will have and noticed I will have to start lifting at night. All my carb meals will be done by afternoon because I will be starting my first meal at 6am. I don't know if I will be lifting directly after work (5:30) or before bed (9:00). I will not be taking in any carbs after these meals, strictly protein, fats, and veggies. What should I do? Maybe take in some extra veggies or something just to have a little extra carbs in me or simply have my fats and proteins?

Also if I have to lift before bed I ussually get in at about 9 and leave aroune 10 or 11. Sometimes I come home and just want to sleep, so should I have my whey directly after then force myself to stay awake for an hour and eat a solid meal before bed or jump rite to the solid meal and sleep?

Thanx

**LAM** · 06-04-2004, 01:19 PM

I would have carbs at meal #1 then again at the meal before training and have your PWO shake with whey and glucose based sugars after training. then I would wait an hour and have either a small solid food meal with a easy digestable protein source like fish or have a blended protein shake..either way you need some good proteins, fats and EFA's in the meal before bed. you could even get away with a small serving of a low GI carb like lentils also with the last meal as well...

**Jodi** · 06-04-2004, 01:50 PM

I know you are following carb cycling so on high and low carb days, I would have your pre workout carb meal. When you get home from your workout, have whey and ground up oats. Its quick, easy and then you can go to bed within an hour

**redspy** · 06-04-2004, 02:48 PM

Before you begin lifting make sure you have some carbs and whey protein in your system. The mix of carbs and whey will help fend off cortisol and reduce the chances of entering a catabolic state during your workout. Post workout make sure you have carbs and protein within 45 minutes as this is when protein synthesis and insulin sensitivity is at its highest.

**nikegurl** · 06-04-2004, 03:00 PM

i have a similar question....i plan on 5 meals a day. 3 will have carbs - the other 2 will have fibrous veggies as carbs only.

i planned to have my carbs in the first 3 meals - but i lift at night as well. my current goal is cutting bodyfat. i assumed i'd have enough carbs in me from the first 3 meals to lift between meals 4&5.

is it smarter to move things around so i have the carbs around the workout even if i'm trying to drop fat? if yes - should i have the carbs in both the pre and post workout meals or just 1 of them? thanks

**Jodi** · 06-04-2004, 03:06 PM

I suggest having the carbs pre and pwo and if your eating 3 carb meals that day then make one of them Meal 1 too.

**nikegurl** · 06-04-2004, 03:11 PM

thanks jodi. i thought about putting them all early in the day to boost fatloss but it just doesn't "feel smart"

one more question. if i had to pick between pre and post workout carbs - which do you think are more important? (i know...i'm being a pain but sometimes both meals are on the run so it's hard to enjoy the oats or yam or brown rice cold)

for sure i'll have them meal 1.
then could i have them either meal 4 OR 5 and one other time or would it really be a bad idea not to have 'em both pre and post workout? thanks again

**Jodi** · 06-04-2004, 03:13 PM

I would take PWO over pre workout anyday

Any you are not a pain in the ass either!

**nikegurl** · 06-04-2004, 03:31 PM

what? you said i have a big ass?

i know - i'm working on it.

**Jodi** · 06-04-2004, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by nikegurl

what? you said i have a big ass?

i know - i'm working on it.

**atherjen** · 06-04-2004, 04:03 PM

NG, just an idea on the PRE WO carbs that you find hard to enjoy on the go.. Tammy had a recipe for sweet potato pancakes that I posted in the Recipes section that are yummy cold!

just a thought.
but as Jodi said, defintly post workout carbs are a must if anything.

and fyi, you do NOT have a big booty!

**nikegurl** · 06-04-2004, 04:06 PM

thank you both! i'll definitely check out the recipe. i could just choke down some cold oats...but i figure if i enjoy my food i'll do a better job of sticking with things.

**Jodi** · 06-04-2004, 04:11 PM

There is also those cookies I told you about that I make too. I'm making them now with all oats. TP gave the thumbs up on them providing I use either ground oats as my flour or oat fiber

**DeadBolt** · 06-05-2004, 12:15 AM

My problem is this, my meals will be as follows:
Meal 1:6am
Meal 2:9am
Meal 3:12pm
Meal 4:3pm
Meal 5:6pm
Meal 6:9pm
Meal 7:12am

My carb meals will be 1-3/4. So should I elminate like my first 2 carb meals and switch those over to the my last 2? So I can have carbs before and after my workout.

On high carb days I could have them on meals 3/4/5/6 and on low carb days I could have them on 4/5/6. I will have to workout at about 6pm once I get out of work, so in between meals 5 and 6 I will lift. This will allow carbs before my workout then another meal of carbs after.

**Jodi** · 06-05-2004, 12:21 AM

On high carb days I could have them on meals 3/4/5/6 and on low carb days I could have them on 4/5/6. I will have to workout at about 6pm once I get out of work, so in between meals 5 and 6 I will lift. This will allow carbs before my workout then another meal of carbs after.

That's not the best idea. Here is what I'd suggest:

High Carb Days: Meals 1/3/5/6
Low Carb Days: Meals 1/5/6

The reason being is because carbs are best used in the AM and pre and post workout.

**DeadBolt** · 06-05-2004, 08:44 AM

Ok kewl. I knew I needed carbs in the morning but i figured my late night eating would maybe be considered my mornings and my am's would turn to my nights. Only because of where all my meals and the timing where spread out. Wont me eating so late ruin the whole idea of being insulin spike free for like 24-36 hours? I was under the impression you needed to have the 3-4 carb meals all in a row to give a steady stream time of no carb. I guess its just the weekly caloric intake that counts more then the hours between the carb meals.

**Jodi** · 06-05-2004, 11:55 AM

What?

The next day will be a no carb day so theres your 24 hours no carb.

Don't make this confusing or hard on yourself. This is a very easy plan to follow.

**DeadBolt** · 06-05-2004, 01:11 PM

O I just thought that you needed to eat all your carb meals in a row, not spreading them out.

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