Do i realy eat that much s***t, wont i just get realy fat ???

**Mike N** · 07-31-2004, 12:12 PM

Hey all

I have been working out how maney calories usualy burn in a day
and calories just needed to live and TEF

I burn with no gym work = 2695 cal
Tef = 154 cal
RMR = 1540 cal

So i need to eat 4389 calories a day to maintain my weight
And i use something like
40/40/20

I know i will get pretty fat eating this much, im kinda carb sensitive.
But it feels like even if i eat
50/30/20
I will put on weight

Can i get any views on this ??

**Jodi** · 07-31-2004, 12:13 PM

Stats?

**Mike N** · 07-31-2004, 12:20 PM

Im 184lbs
20bf

**Akateros** · 07-31-2004, 12:24 PM

Height? Bodyfat? Amount of gym work, and division of cardio and weights?

Seriously, those calculators provide only a guideline -- and sometimes a very rough one at that. They're an average, not keyed to your personal metabolism. (Oh, and a hint: if you work out according to their "very active" category, but spend the rest of the day sitting on your ass at work or school, drop the activity adjustment at least one or two levels. I've found that to be a bit closer to reality.)

Are you maintaining your weight now? A better way to do this is to track your actual diet for a week, and average it out. Then you'll have a real-world starting point.

**Mike N** · 07-31-2004, 12:35 PM

Im 5.7-8

Well this is what i usualy do in a day and thats whats it says i burn for my weight and height.

Light office
for 9 hrs 1127 cals

Resting - sitting or lying quietly
250 calories in 3 hr

1hr 30 mins weights
751

2hrs doing cleaning etc burns
592

Sleeping
601 calories in 8 hr

Im and hour off,so...

**Jodi** · 07-31-2004, 12:46 PM

Your kidding right? Those calculation are a joke. Please don't use them anymore if you really want to be serious about losing weight. If those calcs were right, I'd be ripped all the damn time

There is no way of telling you what amount of cals is correct for you. You either need to use the average 12-13cals per lb time bodyweight or better yet, do an average of your daily totals for a week at maintenance.

**aggies1ut** · 07-31-2004, 05:42 PM

LMAO. 601 calories burned sleeping for 8 hours....

**aztecwolf** · 07-31-2004, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by aggies1ut

LMAO. 601 calories burned sleeping for 8 hours....

screw running, i'll just sleep the calories away
And yes that is most likely way to many calories for you needs, start by just writing down how much you currently eat, mark you weight for a week and adjust accordingly, it took me awhile but now i know how much a need to eat to gain/maintain/lose
use fitday.com to track your intake

**aggies1ut** · 07-31-2004, 05:58 PM

If they estimate that much for sleeping, I wonder what they estimate sex at? lol

**Mike N** · 07-31-2004, 07:17 PM

Well isnt ther any correct calculators ??

I used info from here to work out data
www.ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?t=8082

What do you guys think about RMR and TEF, is it correct to use that?

**fantasma62** · 08-01-2004, 02:57 PM

Mike, just follow what Jodi is telling you, for cutting it is 10-13 calories per pound of your body weight. That's the easiest and most accurate "calculator" you may find.

Just read the Guide to Cutting, Bulking..... that Jodi turned into a sticky....
Good luck

**NEW_IN_THE_GAME** · 08-01-2004, 03:30 PM

I Am 17 And Take In Round 4000 Cals, And Still Build Muscle And Lose Weight - My Last Bulk I Took In 7000 Cals A Day, 300 G Protein, 800 Carbs- 100 G Fat, And Gained 30 Lbs In 6 Weeks, 4 Was Fat But No Biggie. I Am Also 6'5 And 237

**aztecwolf** · 08-01-2004, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by NEW_IN_THE_GAME

I Am 17 And Take In Round 4000 Cals, And Still Build Muscle And Lose Weight - My Last Bulk I Took In 7000 Cals A Day, 300 G Protein, 800 Carbs- 100 G Fat, And Gained 30 Lbs In 6 Weeks, 4 Was Fat But No Biggie. I Am Also 6'5 And 237

so that means yoiu gained 4.33 lbs of muscle per week in that 6 weeks, sorry but i'm having a hard time believing that

**NEW_IN_THE_GAME** · 08-01-2004, 06:32 PM

Hey It Was Good For Me Bro - I Was Taking Musco Mxt - Max Creatine - Dlm - Diosgenin, And Nitro Max 4000(5 Scoops A Day).along With A 6-7 Day Workout Program. Look Up The Products - Most People Using Everything I Used Without The Nitromax Gain 10-20 In 4 -5. It Is Possible.

**Mike N** · 08-01-2004, 09:20 PM

Hey

I found using the calculator includes their own RMR what i was adding to it,what was wrong.

With that i found adding my TEF only i need about maintain
2600 cal

With another using non-calculator using just my RMR x my activity + TEF i need
2400 cal

and using jodis one
2400-2500 cal

So their all about right, just about 100-200 cals out
cheers

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