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    Im on a 2600 daily calorie diet..i weight 197 (trying to get cut )...well when im sitting in calculus .. this is 3 hrs after breakfast btw..i figured id munch on a bar..well my grandmother bought a bunch of ATKINS bars.. listen to this

    calories 150 fat=80

    total fat 9g
    Sat fat 2.5g
    Cholesterol 5mg
    Sodium 140mg
    Potas 85mg

    Total carb 13g!!!
    Dietry FIber 4g
    SUgars 1g
    Sugar alcohol 8g
    Protein 9g..


    Is this good...or should i wait for next paycheck and buy a box of something else????

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    Cutting, bulking, or maintaining? Id say these arnt good at all, but if you have them eat them. Shouldnt notice to much trouble if your not cutting.
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    cutting all the way

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    Then i'd keep them to a minimum, or a none.
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    protein bars in general? or the one i just posted facts?

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    All protein bars. Your better off with whole foods on a strict cut.
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    why are protein bars so bad? I have these kind called low carb bars -
    calories- 230
    fat 7 (3g sat)
    Carbs - 22 (fibre less than 1 gram, sugar 1 gram and 20 grams is Malitol,Glycerin and Polydextrose)
    Protein - 24 grams
    I usually eat the 2 times a week, easy to bring to work with me

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    If it says low carb, that doesn't always mean it's great for you and your going to lose weight and fat by doing so. The Atkin's diet as a whole has been terrible for US consumers mainly because so many people think by eating this crap that there going to lose weight and look better.

    The fact is, like kyvd said, your better off eating whole foods low in fat, high in protein, low in carbs as opposed to low carb bars.

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    not on refeeds

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    I know, we need to limit our protein during refeeds.. but when are we allowed the evily protein bars?

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    thanks for the link Jodi I'm gonna get rid of my protein bars, the way I look at it is I save $5
    Also someone in that thread said in order to geat lean you need to drop all sugars in your diet including Milk...is this true? I always thought the sugars in fruits/milk/yogurt/cheese were healthy for you cause there natural

    And about refeeds, the only time you need to go on them is when you notice fat loss stopping right? so that mean you never have to do them while bulking?

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    Getting rid of dairy while cutting is a VERY good idea if you are determined to get lean. Just trying to stay lean and eating healthy I see nothing wrong with some dairy. Fructose only fill liver glycogen and not muscle glycogen which is why its a good reason to limit fruit. Not ditch them just limit them.

    Refeeds should be for anyone on a low carb diet or if fat loss is slow.



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    Protein bars might be ok for the last meal of a refeed day.. so you can start building muscles while a sleep

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    Another "dumb" question...

    Quote Originally Posted by sara
    Protein bars might be ok for the last meal of a refeed day.. so you can start building muscles while a sleep
    Can someone explain to me what a refeed is? me so clueless... sorry!

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    Its When you "refeed" on carbs. Some people go on very low carb days for a few days or a week, and then have tons one day.
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    Check out the sticky at the top of the Diet Forum, titled Refeeds and Leptin



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    Quote Originally Posted by sara
    Protein bars might be ok for the last meal of a refeed day.. so you can start building muscles while a sleep
    What?



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    Jodi, I love protein bars so much and I can't have them everyday.. and refeeds you don't need to have additional protein with your meals.. so I was thinking of having protein bars in last meal of the refeed

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    Why when I told you that you can have them on your refeed days? Why do you make this complicated when it doesn't need to be and why would you think they help you build muscle while you are sleeping?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jodi
    Why when I told you that you can have them on your refeed days? Why do you make this complicated when it doesn't need to be and why would you think they help you build muscle while you are sleeping?
    I'm sorry Jodi I may got confused and though that I can't have them on my refeeds...

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    Don't be sorry, I just don't want you to make this complicated. Less overthinking and more eating. This is a lifestyle plan and it shouldn't be torturous, it should be moderation.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jodi
    Getting rid of dairy while cutting is a VERY good idea if you are determined to get lean. Just trying to stay lean and eating healthy I see nothing wrong with some dairy. Fructose only fill liver glycogen and not muscle glycogen which is why its a good reason to limit fruit. Not ditch them just limit them.

    Refeeds should be for anyone on a low carb diet or if fat loss is slow.
    So the sugars in dairy products like cottage chesse and stuff are bad for ya? also would it be a good idea to cut them out while bulking to keep fat gain at a minimum?
    lol thanks for all this info I always thought that the sugars in dairy/fruits were really healthy for you, right now I eat like 5-6 serving for dairy (if you would include the soy milk) and fruit, guess I'll have to start cutting back on that and find myself another protein source

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    whats up with that? i posted about my situation a bit ago ( im trying to lose a tremendous amont of fat) and they told cottage cheese was a good snack......

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    About Trioplex

    I'd written to Chef Jay's a while back asking about half-size bars, you know, for people with lower caloric needs. I got a reply today. They'll be on store shelves in spring. I guess that means the rumor of trioplex bars being pulled altogether is just that -- a rumor. :-) And hopefully while they're at it, they'll fine-tune it a bit more, maybe get rid of some of the sugar on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom_B
    So the sugars in dairy products like cottage chesse and stuff are bad for ya? also would it be a good idea to cut them out while bulking to keep fat gain at a minimum?
    lol thanks for all this info I always thought that the sugars in dairy/fruits were really healthy for you, right now I eat like 5-6 serving for dairy (if you would include the soy milk) and fruit, guess I'll have to start cutting back on that and find myself another protein source
    Cottage Cheese is fine for daily everyday dieting yes, or just trying to lose a bit of weight. Lactose is a sugar and those of us that are on a serious cutting diet stop eating cottage cheese and every other dairy for that fact. So basically its up to you. Keep the cottage cheese but if progress slows down then you may want to consider dropping any and all lactose products.



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    well the reason i eat so much dairy is because of the calcium, isn't calcium suppos to help lose weight around your waist line? So I figured that because of the calcium in dairy it would counter all the natural sugars in it, but I guessed wrong lol...so what do you guys eat for calcium if you cut out all dairy? or do you just not eat any?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom_B
    well the reason i eat so much dairy is because of the calcium, isn't calcium suppos to help lose weight around your waist line? So I figured that because of the calcium in dairy it would counter all the natural sugars in it, but I guessed wrong lol...so what do you guys eat for calcium if you cut out all dairy? or do you just not eat any?
    I'm no expert, but I'd say you could take a calcium supplement if you're that concerned about getting in some calcium. No?

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    I take 1000-1500 mg of calcium citrate a day.



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