Beans - type of protein?

**curiousity** · 10-18-2004, 06:54 PM

A question which I couldn't find the answer by searching.

I know about whey and casein and the difference between them, but I don't know what type of protein are in the vegi's. Whey is from animals and casein from dairy, and beans and vegi's are.....?

Also do you know if cooking would damage an isolate protein powder made from vegi's (from beans and grains)?

Thank you for your time.

**Jodi** · 10-18-2004, 08:30 PM

Beans are an incomplete protein and should be used as a carb source not a protein source.

At some point in the day the protein will be complete but still it's better to eat a complete protein at each meal IMO.

**min0 lee** · 10-18-2004, 08:34 PM

your good

I see

**Pirate!** · 10-18-2004, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by curiousity

Also do you know if cooking would damage an isolate protein powder made from vegi's (from beans and grains)?

Cooking denatures the proteins, but does not effect the nutritional value of the protein, so it shouldn't be a concern. Legumes are very low in methionine, an imporant amino acid, and as Jodi said, the protein in beans is imcomplete.

**curiousity** · 10-18-2004, 09:57 PM

I understand that beans are an incomplete protein, but I found a protein powder that has bean and grain protein isolates.

Beans and grains together are a complete protein.

So, my question is what kind of protein is it? Again I am only familiar with whey and casein.

**Jodi** · 10-18-2004, 10:38 PM

It's not a kind. It's different amino acids that make protein.

Some of the amino acids in beans are non-essential. Another thing to consider.

This is why I count the protein in beans as a bonus and not make it part of my daily requirements.

**LAM** · 10-18-2004, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by curiousity

I understand that beans are an incomplete protein, but I found a protein powder that has bean and grain protein isolates.

Beans and grains together are a complete protein.

So, my question is what kind of protein is it? Again I am only familiar with whey and casein.

beans and grains have a very poor biological value. I believe the BV of beans is around 35 while whey protein is 100. I would use a protein supplelment that is derived from milk, like whey, casein or milk protein isolates...

**Vieope** · 10-19-2004, 08:25 AM

But if you complete it the BV goes up?

**LAM** · 10-19-2004, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Vieope

But if you complete it the BV goes up?

I've never heard or read that it does or doesn't cause the BV to increase..

**dAMvN** · 10-21-2004, 08:10 PM

newb question here; How can you be sure you complete the protien in beans?

**min0 lee** · 10-21-2004, 08:31 PM

I see

**sara** · 10-21-2004, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

I see

I'm sorry, but you started to annoy me with your "I see"

**LAM** · 10-21-2004, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by dAMvN

newb question here; How can you be sure you complete the protien in beans?

eat them with a grain like rice, or eat them with some type of animal protein...

**JLB001** · 10-21-2004, 09:05 PM

**dAMvN** · 10-22-2004, 05:54 AM

oh, ok cool. Because im cuban I practically eat rice, beans and some sort of meat be it red or white everyday of my life. Just wanted to make sure I was atleast intaking some sort of protien. Thanks, lol

**DOMS** · 10-22-2004, 01:39 PM

I'm still quite new to bodybuilding and have not come across the idea of "incomplete" proteins. Could someone shed a bit of light for a humble n00b?

Thanks

**Vieope** · 10-22-2004, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by JLB001

Did you know that if you soak the beans you can minimize this horrible effect but the carbs turn into simple carbs and a lot of it is lost?

Glad I don't eat beans.

**Vieope** · 10-22-2004, 02:18 PM

Please say that you heard of it. Nobody can confirm this for me.

**curiousity** · 10-22-2004, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by Vieope

Did you know that if you soak the beans you can minimize this horrible effect but the carbs turn into simple carbs and a lot of it is lost?

I have always included some type of bean in my diet, if nothing else then to add a little variety to my meals.

If you boil the beans for any hour, turn the heat off, then let soak overnight, drain and refill the water, and cook them the next day - it really minimizes people having gas from the beans. Also if you eat beans a lot your body will get used to it. (I have heard the same about switching to a high protein diet.)

I don't the answer to your question though, Vieope.

**Vieope** · 10-22-2004, 08:39 PM

No problem, it is friday night man.
I will look for the website tomorrow and I will post it.

**ReelBigFish** · 10-22-2004, 08:45 PM

here's something that might help.
http://www.bodyforlife2.com/incompletprotein.htm

**Pirate!** · 10-22-2004, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by Vieope

Please say that you heard of it. Nobody can confirm this for me.

Best method:
1) Place in water, remove floaters
2) Soak overnight (10 hours)
3) Drain water
4) Cook in new water.

**Vieope** · 10-22-2004, 08:56 PM

You know anything if it is true the fact that the complex carbs turn to simple and some of it is lost after some time soaking?

**dAMvN** · 10-22-2004, 09:22 PM

i never get gas from eatting beans.... and ive ate beans all my life.

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