Thread: New sceadual help

Hey guys started me a new job about a month ago and I got a trainer to help me with some of my lifts which is a whole diffrent story. We keep argueing about diet. I proposed my diet which I deveoped from these boards and BFFM. The issue is my sceadual and conflicts with work and the gym and how it is interfearing with my diet. To start I am 5'11 250 lbs my trainer says about 26 % BF (useing some stupid device you hold. Says it is a really accurate one, I have doubts) and most of the standard measurment test online say 19 to 24 % BF. You guys get the point and that isnt the issue. Anyways, here is my food sceadual:

545 wake up
Meal 1 6 AM (3/4 cup oatmeal, 6 egg whites, 1 apple)
Meal 2 930 AM (ON Whey Shake+10 fishoil caps)
Meal 3 1230 PM (med chicken breast+1 cup b.rice+2 cup broccali)
Meal 4(preworkout) 430 PM (1 can tuna + 1 cup b.rice)
workout 630-8 (lifting plus cardio)
Meal 5(postworkout) 8 PM (ON Whey shake + 2 med yams)
Meal 6 930 PM (5 oz salmon+3 cup broccali)
1100 PM Bed ( 10 capfishoil/ 1 cup lowfat cottage cheese)

This is my standard meal sceadual and fits my work sceadual fine. I go form work to gym and then from gym to home dont get home till 9 to 930 PM ish after leaving 630 AM.

~2600 cal which is to high and I even realize that like 44/38/18 (p/c/f)

I am trying to shoot for 2400 cal which I want to incorperte asap (this diet is only 2 weeks old atm and still needs tuning IMOP). The reason I bring this up is that I havnt lost anyweight since I been at 2600 cal (and yes I drink enough water) and my trainer and I have been argueing abut diet. In my experince I have drop weight steadily at 2300 to 2400 at abot 1.5 pounds a week with cardio only 3 to 4 times a week. Now I am at 2600 cal and cardio 6 times a week with lifting 4 and not loseing much at all (lost 5 pounds first 2 weeks, then nothing since).

Here are the questions:

1. My day is way to long and I sometimes eat up to 7 or 8 meals a day. Where should I cut out calories to get to 2400 caland how should I modify my meals for the day. This I feel is my main issue. I dont know where to cut it, which leads to my next question.

2. My trainer saw me eating 2 yams after my workout and fliped out on me beucase I was eating carbs at 8 pm even after my diet. I know your suposed to go in about a 2:1 ratio carbs to protien post workout. If it really that late for me since I am goign to bed 3 horus later? I had a minor argument with him about this, but point was taken and he had no good advice cept not to eat carbs post workout.

3. I have also thought (actually trainer is asking me to do this) of adding another meal 2 horus after lunch and then eating 1 hour before workingout ( i have been loseing energy due to waiting 2 horus till gym). If so I will be at 8 meals a day. Again look at question 1.

I guess I am looking for advice on times I shoudl eat and still not "break any rules" you can say and still be a around 2400 calories. At 2600 it doenst seem to work, I even trying a refeed one day(out of curiosity) and all I did was gain 8 pounds the next morning and havnt lost more then 3 ponds of it (over a week later) which is Y I am not even with weight after loseing 5 pounds(yes I have read all the articles on this site about refeeds). Just in a little bind and cant figure this one out. I also think my trainer needs to read more about dieting, works for him but some of stuff he says would be bascally ripped apart by this forum in one sence or antoher. Any advce would be great thx alot.

M Potok

lol i was typing this fast without checking or proof reading it.. still took me over 30 min to do so.. lol that is Y I am a chemical engineer.. lol whats spelling...

well meal 5 is post workout and 6 is my dinner pretty much. i always eat post workout and atleast 2 hours later. I am in the understanding that if your going to have high carbs go low fat (vice versa)... So I have 2 to 3 low carb meals where I put my 20 fish oils in. In this template I have 2, 10 in each, from what I read that seemed to be the standard, no?

Also post workout at 8 PM should I still go higher carbs.. like 50 to 60 ish for yams.. more or less.. It is late and I never thought it out to much because I do go to bed at 11ish. In theory I could ditch my bed meal, but I want the casein in me while I sleep. That is the only reason I add it in. I do agree the meals are close, but my workout is so late and I usually go post-workout, dinner, and bed. If anyone wants to rearrange my meals for the day around my working out. That would be great.

530 UP
630 Leave for work
12 Lunch
530-6 Off Work
630-7 Gym
9 Home
11 Bed

if anyone has a good way to fit in 6 meals and still have them staggered correctly for optimum results, it would be great. I cant figure it out, unless I go 7 or 8 meal. But again then I would have to reduce portions and I am then worried about losing energy for the gym, which I had experienced in 1 or 2 test days. BTW I actually tried to watch my spelling this time, I am not a complete moron.. lol.. *cough*

Thx Again
M Potok