Thread: help

My eating consists of oatmeal w/raisins or cereal in the morning, some type of fruit mid morning, sandwhich with an apple for lunch, graham crackers or some type of carb for mid afternoon snack and then a healthy non-greasy, not from the frozen food part of the grocery store type of dinner.

Well, that does not sound like a very good diet, not much protein.

You say you tried all of these different diets and no success?

Can you list one of them in detail and tell me how long you were on it please.

well I'll see if I can in a few minutes. I'm on a borrowed computer (mine broke) and I'm at the library right now. I've been on some type of "diet" (bad word) for about 16 years now. Recently (within the last couple of years) I've started to eat a lot healthier and started typing supps. I tried the "body for life" and gained 12 lbs...I was on that for the recommended time...either 12 or 20 weeks. Prior to moving I did consume chicken at least 3-4 times a week, and me eating at least 5 times a day started aboput a year ago. I've been taking everything from Xenadrine to ECA (not in excess) for well, quite a long time and have taken breaks from them only to start again and yet still seen no results.
Well, the computer is giving me 1 minute now to log off, so thats it for now..thanks for any help though

more veggies/fresh fruits/protien.i know when i increased my fibers i got that ''filled up feeling''.more water as well.

Originally posted by CarbAddict
I've been on some type of "diet" (bad word) for about 16 years now.

It's not a "bad word", it's just a misused/misinterpreted word.

IMO a diet is whatever you eat on a daily basis.

You definitely need to increase your protein. And I also think that you're still eating too many simple carbs for someone trying to lose bodyfat. If you could list a typical days diet it would be helpful....in detail...serving size, condiments, etc.

Ok, I think you may have really misunderstood the body for life program if you are exercising the way you are (REALLY not the BFL program) and the limited info on your diet (REALLY not the BFL program).

I am making incredible progress in my BFL contest and I started from a VERY bad place. As a non-exercising, very fat, couch potato. I have more than doubled my strength and am dropping fat like crazy.

At the same time, my food budget is WAY down (costs so much LESS to eat this way) and I have more energy than I know what to do with (well, I channel it into my sex life now! )

I log my food (every meal) in my notebook, so I can plan and review (take no time, plus if you right it down, you don't want to cheat!) and I preplan and log every workout.

Sounds to me like you are over doing it for your fittness level and are suffering from burnout and frustration. For you the BFL plan would be a great start to begin (that is for all you long time muscle heads who forget how hard it is in the first few weeks of lifting!).

I suggest downloading the notebook pages off the BFL website and making your own notebook and following the plan. The workout schedule will be a much more pleasant experience for you. You are doing all that cardio as well as lifting and that is SOOOO counter productive in the beginning. You can't just start jogging by running a marathon. Build a good foundation first.

So if you would like to discuss this further, let me know. I am not a guru like some of these folks, but I am getting some great results. Also it helps that I have a small group of friends that are also doing this with me. I have plenty of enthusiasm to spread.

My eating habits are so simple it is scary, and it is all based on BFL. I say BASED people, I am not a robot, so just relax.
I have a great diet based on skinless/boneless chicken breasts (2 a day), brown rice (two 1/2 cup servings), frozen mixed veggies (two 1/2 cup servings), egg beaters(4 eggs worth),a lite yogurt, tuna in place of chicken sometimes, and 3 lite meal replacement shakes ( I use myoplex lite, tastes good, 1.5g of fat, 25g of protein, not a bad ratio!!!).

Yes, that is 6 meals, figure it out.

I make all these meals in advance, put them in baggies, and freeze them, put all my day's food in a cooler and go to work. So even if I have to work late, I have no excuse to eat off my plan! I can't fail!!!!!!!

You can succeed too!!!!!!

You want more help or info, let me know! mustangmangt@hotmail.com

Later!

A normal day consists of:
either oatmeal w/raisins or smart start cereal with non-fat milk
apple sometime around 10ish
PB&J (my nutritionalist told me to eat more PB) and usually a piece of fruit or a small salad with no dressing
afternoon sometime depending on what my schedule is, I'll have either a handfull of peanuts before going to the gym or maybe a bananna
and for dinner I usually have some type of meat...either chicken or turkey...or if I'm too lazy a bowl of soup.
Oh, and although I know y'all will probably crusify me for this, but in one of my meals I try to replace it for slimfast (recent attempt at losing the remainder amount of weight)

I work out so much b/c I've noticed that when I did use the BFL method of only doing a couple days at only 20 minutes I wasn't seeing any results. (Now don't quote me, it's been a year since I read the book) And I did write down all my food intake, drank the shakes....heck, I was a BFL advertisement (at first) b/c of all the energy and what few pounds I did loose. Then, without any change in my diet or workout regiment, I started to gain the weight. It wasn't scale weight that I noticed but rather my clothes were all starting to get a tad bit tight...but I figured this might have something to do with the BFL eating plan but I would finish up the program and hopefully see some type of amazing finish...well I didn't and I've been trying to work it off ever since.

As for my workouts, I was doing a 2 day split with at least 45 minutes of cardio per session....lately I've increased that to 45 minutes of weight training and at least 1 hour of cardio. Now I go as much as I can...which usually amounts to 5-6 days a week.

Any further suggestions would be helpful..I'm willing to try just about anything now (as long as it's not too expensive)

I'm not a dietician, but like w8 said I would try eating a ton more protein. Try eating some yogurt, milk, chicken, turkey, and fish. It looks like you only eat protein in your evening meal, try to get some protein at every meal. just my $.02. Good Luck!

I am in no way an expert, so I'll gladly defer to the others on this board, but it sounds like WAY too much cardio. The latest stuff I've read seems to suggest that fat loss is better achieved by more weightlifting (say 3x week) and much less cardio, if any. Why don't you try cutting the cardio to 2x a week and try the HIIT routine: high intensity interval training. Once you're warmed up, start doing intervals (hard one minute, easy the next), and then cool down, 20 minutes total for everything. Also, by cutting the cardio and hitting the weights 3x a week you'll make sure you're getting plenty of rest! But, as I said, I'll gladly defer to those more in the know. . . Good luck!

wow, you really have no protein in your diet.

and that is way too much cardio. You need to build muscle and all that cardio will prevent that.

And I hope that peanut butter is sugar free, otherwise it's not anything but candy.

Okay, well I spent 10 minutes typing this out yesterday and the server crashed ...so here i go again!

Good posts from mustang and chainsaw

Carb....if you want to see any progress you really have to change your diet. You need to increase your protein and lower your simple carb intake.

A few things....

Sugar and high glycemic carbs produce an insulin spike in your body, which inhibits fat loss.

Protein is the most thermogenic of the three macronutrients, which means your body has to work harder to digest protein...it increases your metabolism...burns more calories.

Muscle is more metabolically active than fat....the more muscle you have, the higher your metabolism, the more calories you will burn at rest.

So....from these three things, you can see that you need to significantly increase your protein, drastically reduce your simple/high gi carbs and stop doing so much cardio so you can gain some muscle.

What should you eat....Slimfast?! You might as well have a coke and a chocolate bar....it's just sugar. Try getting some lean protein at each meal, and get most of your carbs from complex sources. Good foods include chicken, turkey, lean beef, egg whites, skim milk, tuna, fish, oats (not packaged), sweet potatoes, brown rice, if you must use bread, make sure it's whole grain, natty p/b, almonds, etc.

Stuff not to eat: Slimfad! You should also limit your fruit intake to one a day.

I suggest you begin lifting weights 3 days a week....if you need more help on that, like what to do and how, etc., just post a thread in the training forum.