Originally Posted by DemolitionNine

Ok, so I started cutting in late december, after a bulking phase that lasted from July 04' - Dec 04'. During that time I was eating 4500 or so calories per day.

Lemmie' give MY stats, and my problem:

20 years old
5' 10" , at about 175lbs.

I have a great amount of strength for my size, but not HUGE bulging muscles.
I've done ONE cycle of M1t, and am currently wrapping that up by doing a proper PCT.

Anyway, I can't seem to get the fat off of my abs, and "love handles" that cover my lower obliques. How the hell can I cut this fat off? I'm REALLY lean in ALL areas BUT here. It looks dis-proportionate.

Here's my workout schedule:

Mon: Back & Bi's
Tues: Chest & Tri's
Wed: Legs
Thurs: Shoulders & 45 mins of cardio (elliptical & treadmill)
Friday: Abs & 45 mins of cardio (elliptical & treadmill)
Every *other* Sat: Cardio, 1 hour.
Sun: OFF

How I've been eating:

8:00am: bowl of cereal, and a Protein Shake ( 2 scoops of ON's).
10:00am: A low-fat yogurt or a piece or two of fruit
12:00pm: A sandwich w/ 100% whole grain wheat bread. Either Natural Peanut Butter, & strawberry jelly or a Tuna & Lettuce sandwich. Some fruit, a granola bar, and some veggies.

2:30pm: A protein shake, 2 scoops of ON's Whey.

3:00pm: Workout

5:30pm A protein shake, 2 scoops of ON's Whey.

6:30pm: Dinner: Usually, boneless / skinless chicken, some potatoes, veggies, or some form of "lighter" fish (halibut, etc). Or I'll do Egg-Sandwiches on wheat bread. If it's Red-Meat, it's LEAN, and in small quantities with small amounts of veggies on the side and maybe some fruit.


In between those times given, I'm usually snacking on some nuts here & there, or some sort of either veggies (baby carrots) or fruit. I really like yogurt a lot, so sometimes I'll grab some yogurt. I've been using ONLY skim-milk, and skim-milk in my protein shakes.

Is this still too many calories?

I'm mostly an ecto-morph, so I'm "skinny" but not TONED in the mid-section. I have like 2 "rolls" to get rid of, and they look FUNNY because my abs are BIG under there . My mid-section feels firm, and I can see my top 4 abs in the morning, but they fade quickly throughout the day as I eat.

I really don't want to resort to thermogenics, and I feel that I'm doing PLENTY of cardio. I don't want to eat-up my hard-earned biceps & back either.


PLEASE help. I'm VERY willing to listen, as I'm getting frustrated with crappy results. None of my friends seem to help, as none of them understand that I'm ALWAYS hungry but can't for the life of me tone up my mid-section.

Thanks in advance, and I look forward to hearing back from you guys.

-Matt

Originally Posted by crazy_enough

For many people, dairy is off the list during cutting, but it really does depend on how ur body reacts to it...U might wanna cut out any refined sugars like the ones found in granola bars, b-fast cereal and such...And I was just thinking, u w/o at 3pm but only have ur next meal at 5:30, do u train for 2 and 1/2 hours?? U should replenish ur body soon after a w/o...

Have a look at the stickies on cutting and nutrition...but dont worry, a lot more people will probably answer with much more detail and advice!

Originally Posted by DemolitionNine

Ok, so I started cutting in late december, after a bulking phase that lasted from July 04' - Dec 04'. During that time I was eating 4500 or so calories per day.

Lemmie' give MY stats, and my problem:

20 years old
5' 10" , at about 175lbs.

I have a great amount of strength for my size, but not HUGE bulging muscles.
I've done ONE cycle of M1t, and am currently wrapping that up by doing a proper PCT.

Anyway, I can't seem to get the fat off of my abs, and "love handles" that cover my lower obliques. How the hell can I cut this fat off? I'm REALLY lean in ALL areas BUT here. It looks dis-proportionate.

This is typical male pattern fat storage. You may want to look into using some Absolved by Avant.

Here's my workout schedule:

Mon: Back & Bi's
Tues: Chest & Tri's
Wed: Legs
Thurs: Shoulders & 45 mins of cardio (elliptical & treadmill)
Friday: Abs & 45 mins of cardio (elliptical & treadmill)
Every *other* Sat: Cardio, 1 hour.
Sun: OFF

How I've been eating:

8:00am: bowl of cereal, and a Protein Shake ( 2 scoops of ON's).

Replace the cereal with Oats instead.

10:00am: A low-fat yogurt or a piece or two of fruit

This is not a meal. You need protein. Also, limit your fruit and yogurt intake. You want to limit all fruit and dairy while cutting

12:00pm: A sandwich w/ 100% whole grain wheat bread. Either Natural Peanut Butter, & strawberry jelly or a Tuna & Lettuce sandwich. Some fruit, a granola bar, and some veggies.

Jelly I hope that's sugar free jelly. Again the fruit, you are eating too much of it. Get rid of the granola bar and if you need more carbs then have some oat, brown rice or sweet potatoes. Really you a PBJ sandwich is not a meal and you should stick to the tuna.

2:30pm: A protein shake, 2 scoops of ON's Whey.

You need to add some EFA's here like Fish oil

3:00pm: Workout

5:30pm A protein shake, 2 scoops of ON's Whey.

Where's the Carb PWO?

6:30pm: Dinner: Usually, boneless / skinless chicken, some potatoes, veggies, or some form of "lighter" fish (halibut, etc). Or I'll do Egg-Sandwiches on wheat bread. If it's Red-Meat, it's LEAN, and in small quantities with small amounts of veggies on the side and maybe some fruit.
OMG way too much fruit and bread in your diet. Make the potato a sweet potato. No white potatoes on a cut


In between those times given, I'm usually snacking on some nuts here & there, or some sort of either veggies (baby carrots) or fruit. I really like yogurt a lot, so sometimes I'll grab some yogurt. I've been using ONLY skim-milk, and skim-milk in my protein shakes.

[b]Limit the dairy and fruit. Carrots are not good for snacking. Actually you shoudn't be eating carrots on a cut period. Celery or cucumber would be better [/b}

Is this still too many calories?

No, but you aren't eating the right foods. Where is your bedtime meal? You should be eating some Cottage cheese and EFA's at bedtime. Your diet lacks green veggies, healthy complex carbs and EFA's. You eat too much dairy and fruit.

I'm mostly an ecto-morph, so I'm "skinny" but not TONED in the mid-section. I have like 2 "rolls" to get rid of, and they look FUNNY because my abs are BIG under there . My mid-section feels firm, and I can see my top 4 abs in the morning, but they fade quickly throughout the day as I eat.

I really don't want to resort to thermogenics, and I feel that I'm doing PLENTY of cardio. I don't want to eat-up my hard-earned biceps & back either.


PLEASE help. I'm VERY willing to listen, as I'm getting frustrated with crappy results. None of my friends seem to help, as none of them understand that I'm ALWAYS hungry but can't for the life of me tone up my mid-section.

Thanks in advance, and I look forward to hearing back from you guys.

-Matt

Originally Posted by Jodi

Bro??? I know I don't look like a guy.